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Hello all. Glad to finally get on as I suck using a computer but finally figured it out. LOL. Glad to keep posting with you guys on our rangers. Unfortunately, outside of our rfa's doesn't look like much money for impact free agents due to keeping richards for another year so whatever offseason excitement will come from whatever trades slats drums up and seeing what youngsters are ready to make the jump to the big club. Hopefully, most of our espn group will make the jump here.
 
If the Rangers add a vet defenseman, that pretty much tells you they don't think McIlarth is ready. If they don't, they either expect him or a kid like Allen to win a job. That is pretty much the only move in FA I can see them making.

As usual, the Flyers are grasping at goalies. Not only were the Devils morons for not taking the high rated goalie. The Flyers followed it up with more stupidity passing on him. That is why their goaltending blows every season.
 
Looks like good chance Clowe to NJ as I mentioned above.

Also saw we are interested in D. Moore per Brooks. If that happens Boyle could play wing (if we keep him) and Moore would center the 4th line. Good PK and FO guy.

Also means we 100% should bury Powe and Asham in the AHL. Would save us 1.850 mill. A team can bury 925 k of a players salary in the minors.

Then maybe we can look to add a winger for some extra depth. Right now it looks like CK/Step/Nash Hags/Richards/Cally Pyatt/Brass/MZA Boyle/Moore/Dorsett

When you look at those lines it makes me think someone will be dealt. I have to think the Rangers want to try and have openings for some youth. Miller/Lindberg/Fast. Early on they would have room with Hags and Cally missing the start of the season, but I bet they want to clear another spot on top of sending Asham and Moore down to the AHL. Maybe Boyle and/or Pyatt gets dealt.

I think added D. Moore would be a solid move. He is a good PK. He can score 10 goals or so. He can win some faceoffs. I think he'd add some solid 4th line depth. For the first time in a while our depth would be real solid.
 
Brooks also comments on the D and Staal:

The Rangers could use depth on defense as well, though they seem to be prepared to enter the season with the current seven-man group consisting of Dan Girardi, Ryan McDonagh (presuming he is re-signed), Marc Staal (believed recovering well from his eye injury), Anton Stralman, Michael Del Zotto, John Moore and Justin Falk.
 
i am much more interested in scoring depth, which we have little of, than 4th line players depth.
 
Here is what I will say. I like the depth on D...I really do. That is a solid 7 dmen. I doubt you find many teams with a better set of 7 from top to bottom. And maybe mid season McIlrath will be ready to make a jump.

At forward, I like the depth, that would be a solid 4th line, but I think we need one more guy on the wing who can score 20 or so goals. Maybe if they bury Asham and Powe in the minors, and if they can somehow deal Pyatt or Boyle, they can afford a guy for a little over 2 mill . Figure Moore gets around 1 mill. You can save 1.85 on Powe/Asham. Then get rid of a Pyatt let's say, so you are looking at around 3.35 mill saved between those 3 guys. Should be enough to add a winger for 2 mill or so that can add a little pop.
 
Would I mind a guy like Moore or Lapierre to center the 4th line? Of course not, a Boyle/Moore or Lapierre/Dorset 4th line would be one of the better fourths in the leauge.

But a scoring winger is 10000x over a bigger need. Make all the moves you said, but instead of using that extra mil on a guy like Moore, save it so we can take on some extra salary in a trade for a quality winger. I dont want one off the scrap heap in UFA.

This Pyatt signing was awful.
 
I think they are thinking of a 4th line of Pyatt-Moore-Boyle. I mean, as 4th lines go that is pretty good. However, you know my hatred for D. Moore. However, given the sad story of his wife, I'm willing to jump on board with him.
 
4th line depth they can get by integrating a Lindberg/Fast, no need to sign anyone down there. Like 31 said, they either need to make a splash for a forward or get a solid PP QB by moving DZ/Miller if necessary. I don't really see Falk contributing much, he seems like an AHL level dman but maybe they use him as the spare. Hopefully Allen emerges as a sleeper type. Personally, I'd put Boyle on waivers too but alot of you guys probably wouldn't be down with that.
 
dump you dont see Dorsett as a top 9 player do you? Id like Boyle-Moore-Dorsett but Pyatt gone.
 
The 4th line mix would be Dorsett/Moore/Boyle/Pyatt. That is a solid 4th line mix. One of the better 4th lines in the league IMO. Deals like Pyatt I just don't sweat. First he only has 1 year left at a decent cap hit of 1.55. Second he can be dealt with that decent contract. Third we can send him down and save 925 K of his cap hit, if he even clears waivers. So I don't get too worked up over that kind of deal. If we add Moore I would bury Pyatt in the minors/hope someone claims him off waivers though.

My plan since the second the season ended was add another scoring winger and let's roll. To me I am now liking the idea of those 7 guys on D, deep and solid IMO. So I think you bury Powe and Asham in the minors (saves you 1.850 mill). You deal or bury Pyatt in the minors, saving at least another 925 K, if not his whole deal if he is claimed. Then you take that money and sign Moore for around 1 mill, and sign a FA forward that can play in the top 9 for about 2 mill or so per.

Then you say done have a nice day and start the season...:).
 
A $2M player is in no way going to be the type of forward who can be a difference maker. Think about it, Boyle costs $1.7M and is a 4th liner. For $300K more you're not getting anything of impact, which we really need.

Having Moore on the 4th line was not the reason we've sucked at scoring in the playoffs the past 2yrs and been middle of the pack, at best, during the regular season.
 
dumppyattnow said:
If the Rangers add a vet defenseman, that pretty much tells you they don't think McIlarth is ready. If they don't, they either expect him or a kid like Allen to win a job. That is pretty much the only move in FA I can see them making.

As usual, the Flyers are grasping at goalies. Not only were the Devils morons for not taking the high rated goalie. The Flyers followed it up with more stupidity passing on him. That is why their goaltending blows every season.
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Dump, will be very disappointing if the undertaker doesn't make the big club at the start this season. We need Mcilreith to be ready even as 3rd pairing to keep other teams honest as we don't have the heavyweight presence to keep clowns like lucic and AO from running guys like nash. Dorsett is willing but more middleweight. What do you guys think we can get from vancouver offensewise for torts favorites like boyle and piatt?
 
I agree, but you and I also differ on us needing a real impact guy. I just think we need a solid top 9 winger. We agree to disgaree on that.

I think the reason we haven't scored in the playoffs, or regular season for that matter, the past few seasons is deeper than talent. We'll see, maybe I will be wrong on that.

I like the idea of having a good deep team with a few stars. Hank is a star. Nash is a star. Step is becoming a star. McD is becoming a star. Staal and Girardi are near that level. Cally is darn close to a star.

So I am okay with adding just a solid vet guy who can score some goals. And combining that with a new coach/system, and Kreider hopefully taking a step up to a 20 goal guy.

I think that can get us where we need to go. I truly do when combined with our D and goalie. But I do think we need another top 9 winger. I think as is we are a little short when you factor in no Hags/Cally for the start, and the uncertain contributions of guys like Miller/Lindberg/Fast.
 
From what I have read, be ready to get let down. Unless he is lights out in camp, McIlrath will start in Hartford. And if he plays well I am sure he will be called up at some point, but they almost consider this past season a wash due to his injury, so he will start in Hartford. They want him to get some good AHL time in before he is up with the big club. But I do think this is the first season we will actually see him in a Ranger uniform. I never felt that way in any prior season.
 
Darren Dreger tweets that he wouldnt be surprised to see Clowe land a 5 year deal. If that happens then I won't whine about losing him anymore, no wayyyy you can sign a guy like him with his concussion history to 5 years
 
So if they sign a Moore/Lapierre this effectively means the end of Boyle no? There wouldn't be any need for him(is there now?). I'd skip Moore and just go with Lindberg who's close to ready. Save the $ and use it on a Raymond or Stalberg. Then waive/deal Boyle/Pyatt.
 
i disliked Torts and saw him as very overrated for years, but to solely blame him for lack of scoring is absurd. I'm not saying blame the players 100% like Al used to say, but Nash had no problem scoring at a 40gl pace this year under Torts, and Gaborik had no problem scoring 40 under him either. Yes, the system sucked for the most part, but the talent level to beat the top teams just isn't there.
 
Get Kane and now we're talking!
 
I'm with you 31, adding a Moore is nice to round out the 4th line but we aren't over the hump unless we get another legitimate 25+ goal scorer to play a top 6 winger spot.
 
RE: Kane..That could affect something like that true, I guess it depends on which move they made first. Hopefully they're even looking into that. I read somewhere last week they were one of a few that had inquired recently. We can only hope! :)
 
I certainly do not solely blame him for the lack of scoing 31. No way at all. Like I said, it is deeper than just talent IMO. It was a few things. Not all on Torts...no way.

Anyway, we don't agree on this. All good. I think we need another decent scorer added, and away we go. I believe in good depth and a few stars. You want another impact player added. I don't think we need that. All good.

I also don't get hung up on deals like Powe, Asham, Pyatt, and Boyle. Small deals. All one year left. The Rangers can deal them, put them on waivers (as they did with Powe and Asham already), and send them to the minors saving 925 K per on cap hits. So I am not too concerned about those guys. If we wanted them out I am sure they will be out. They won't hurt us from trying to improve IMO.
 
We are not getting Kane. I haven't seen anywhere that he is on the market OR we are even looking at him.

My guess is we will look to make some minor moves. Add a Moore. Get rid of a Pyatt or Boyle type. Add a top 9 winger for a decent #. That would be my guess on what we try to do.
 
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Dis just FYI its SCTroj that had the Kane rumor info...he messed with everyone and went with 71 haha
 
I still think Ryan is feasible if the reports were true about how hard the Ducks were shopping him at the draft but I've beaten that horse to death long ago
 
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