Miller's phone not ringing

[B-Roy]

http://csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?Andre-Millers-Phone-Staying-Silent=1&blockID=62803&feedID=704

A source close to the negotiations between the Sixers and their former starting point guard said, “The phone is not ringing.” They went on to insinuate that Portland, which is believed to be Miller’s last suitor, actually sees him as too old, a non three-point shooter and too slow on defense.

 

[Wheels]

10 Mill a year my foot.. we'll give you 4 Mill 'Dre

 

[RickyRubio]

Do you think we will be able to grab him cheap if no one signs him soon?

No way in hell I would feel good paying 10 mil. But 4 sounds good lol

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

If he is too old and can't shoot, why do we want him at all?

 

[Tince]

If he is too old and can't shoot, why do we want him at all?

I agree he is too told and can't hit 3's, and that's why he was far from tops on my list.

However, to answer your questions, if we were able to sign him and Bass, then I would be happy to pick up two guys that give us different looks and options than Sergio and Frye did last year.

 

[RickyRubio]

He can drive and dish though. That is what we need in a PG. Yes, I know. Bayless. But he hasn't got the dish thing down yet. Just drive.

 

[craigehlo]

The whole "can't hit a 3" complaint is overblown in my opinion. We need to get away from shooting so many jumpers and have a PG that can get to the lane and create shots for our bigs. I'll take a player like Miller that can do that over Steve Blake jacking up 3's any day.

 

[blazerboy30]

Miller would instantly make Oden much more productive on offense. Miller would be able to run a pick-n-roll with Greg, get him the ball in scoring position, and drive-and-dish to Oden for dunks.

If we could get Miller for cheap, for a couple years, I would be all for it.

 

[elcap15]

Miller isnt really a good half court point guard, not a great fit for the slowest team in the league.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

The whole "can't hit a 3" complaint is overblown in my opinion. We need to get away from shooting so many jumpers and have a PG that can get to the lane and create shots for our bigs. I'll take a player like Miller that can do that over Steve Blake jacking up 3's any day.

It depends how you're team is put together. If we've already got Oden & Lamarcus and Roy who can drive at will, we need people to stretch the defense, otherwise defenses will just sag back and our inside game will also suffer.

On the other hand it would be nice to have a PG who could drive and set up our bigs and take the pressure off of Roy. Wish we could find one who could do both.

 

[Sinobas]

Look at his playoff numbers and regular season numbers from last year? You think he's not an upgrade to Blake, simply because Blake makes 13% more of his 3pt shots? Maybe Portland is trying to drive his price down, but I'm thinking the Sixers will probably resign him, because they really want him back.

 

[craigehlo]

If we've already got Oden & Lamarcus and Roy who can drive at will

Oden and LaMarcus can drive at will to the hole? I have to disagree with that statement. Roy and Bayless are the only guys that can drive on the team right now.

Miller is a crafty vet that can deliver the ball to Oden & LMA is spots where thay can be successful.

 

[PapaG]

They went on to insinuate that Portland, which is believed to be Miller’s last suitor, actually sees him as too old, a non three-point shooter and too slow on defense.

That's my take on Miller in a nutshell. May as well keep Blake and hope Bayless progresses this summer.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

Oden and LaMarcus can drive at will to the hole? I have to disagree with that statement. Roy and Bayless are the only guys that can drive on the team right now.

Miller is a crafty vet that can deliver the ball to Oden & LMA is spots where thay can be successful.

Not what I meant... We have Oden and Lamarcus down low and we also have Roy who can drive so we need people to stretch the defense. I love ol' Greg, but I'm not going to say he can drive just yet.

 

[illmatic99]

That's a pretty myopic view of Miller's game. We need o reduce our reliance on outside jumpers for points, and actually take it inside to either score or get to the line. And 33 is not too old for what we want. We need a short term upgrade for the PG spot while Bayless develops.

 

[ucatchtrout]

If he is too old and can't shoot, why do we want him at all?

For petes sake, he has never been able to shoot.

He is a good defender, very good at scoring inside and running an offense. Oh, and by the way, he knows how to pass inside and run the pick and roll. A couple little things Blake and Bayless haven't seemed to be able to figure out how to do.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

I need to trade phones with Andre, then... 'cause my god damn phone has been ringing off-the-hook all morning long!

 

[SodaPopinski]

I've posted this before in another thread somewhere in the past, but it's relevant here.

You can't discount the "he can't shoot the three" argument just by saying "well, we need to reduce our reliance on outside jumpers anyway." The way this team is constructed, we mostly rely on Brandon to be our primary playmaker. If that's the case, you need to appropriately space the floor with guys who can set screens, flash to the rim, or hit outside jumpers, so you can maximize Brandon's abilities to create off the dribble.

If we bring in a guy like Miller, we diminish Brandon's impact on the game as our offense currently stands. I'm not saying we couldn't change our offense to make Brandon play off the ball more, but I'm not sure I want to do that. If you consider Brandon in the same category of impact guys as Kobe, LeBron and D-Wade, you've got to maximize his skill set and let him create, just like those three do. Having a guy like Miller on the floor with him makes it easier for defenses to collapse on Brandon, rendering him much less impactful on a game.

 

[STOMP]

Miller isnt really a good half court point guard, not a great fit for the slowest team in the league.

of course one reason they go at a slower pace is that they don't have an athletic PG who can take people off the dribble and finish. Among Blake's positives is that he recognizes his limitations and doesn't try to more then he can, which is great and all but signing a PG like Miller would add a lot to a team's ability to run. While he isn't the outside shooter that Blake is, dude averaged 5 FTA a game last year to Steve's 1.

He's not the ideal PG for Portland, but he'd be an upgrade. He's been an ironman missing only 5 games in his 10 year career and has remained very productive posting impressive PERs the last few seasons. Given his age and the market, I could live with PDX offering something around 7M per for 3 years.

STOMP

 

[Wizard Mentor]

That's a pretty myopic view of Miller's game. We need o reduce our reliance on outside jumpers for points, and actually take it inside to either score or get to the line. And 33 is not too old for what we want. We need a short term upgrade for the PG spot while Bayless develops.

I too find the "too old" argument amusing. We're not going to set LMA and Roy and Oden adrift when they're 32 or 33. They will still be core members of the team like the Celtics "big 3".

as to the actual subject of the thread... I hope we can sign Miller on the cheap, $7 mil/year for 3 years.

 

[hasoos]

of course one reason they go at a slower pace is that they don't have an athletic PG who can take people off the dribble and finish. Among Blake's positives is that he recognizes his limitations and doesn't try to more then he can, which is great and all but signing a PG like Miller would add a lot to a team's ability to run. While he isn't the outside shooter that Blake is, dude averaged 5 FTA a game last year to Steve's 1.

He's not the ideal PG for Portland, but he'd be an upgrade. He's been an ironman missing only 5 games in his 10 year career and has remained very productive posting impressive PERs the last few seasons. Given his age and the market, I could live with PDX offering something around 7M per for 3 years.

STOMP

He also played on a team that was up tempo and relied on that for scoring, and when the playoffs came they got taken out because fast break teams can't win in the playoffs. So as you were saying?

 

[mook]

Pretty obvious that Andre Miller would immediately vault us from being the slowest team in the league to somewhere in the middle. Which I think is fine. We'll never have an uptempo squad as long as we have Oden, Roy and McMillan.

I could definitely get behind adding Miller and Odom, Miller and Bass, Hinrich and Bass, Hinrich and Odom....

There are still several possibilities, and any of them sound better to me than Hedo.

 

[Minstrel]

He also played on a team that was up tempo and relied on that for scoring, and when the playoffs came they got taken out because fast break teams can't win in the playoffs.

They got "taken out" because they played a better team. They weren't upset by an inferior team due to "fast paced teams not being able to win in the playoffs."

 

[STOMP]

He also played on a team that was up tempo and relied on that for scoring, and when the playoffs came they got taken out because fast break teams can't win in the playoffs. So as you were saying?

Portland has a lot more offensive options then Phili especially with their plentiful outside shooters... those sorts of players often excel with drive and kick PGs in half court sets. Having a 2nd guard who can drive and kick (or finish) would seem to make Portland's attack harder to defend... do you have any other smug questions?

STOMP

 

[Shapecity]

From Espn Insider Chris Broussard...

Miller (most likely) out in Philly


Miller
Andre Miller's career with the Philadelphia 76ers is almost certainly over. The Sixers offered the 33-year-old point guard a one-year deal for the midlevel exception ($5.8 million). Miller was understandably underwhelmed, but after spending big last summer on Andre Iguodala ($80 million) and Elton Brand ($80 million), Philadelphia couldn't give Miller the three-year, $30 million contract he wanted just to remain a mediocre club. The Sixers aren't even willing to give Miller three years at the midlevel.

Miller's agent, Andy Miller (no relation), is currently trying to find a sign-and-trade deal that will fetch his client something near $10 million per year. But so far he's been unsuccessful. The Sixers will not just do a sign-and-trade for the sake of doing one; it has to make sense for them and nothing they've seen has made any sense.

Executives around the league believe Miller will get a three-year, midlevel deal from some team, but that club remains a mystery right now. If Miller wants to play for a one-year, midlevel deal, a return to Philly is possible, but it's doubtful he'll settle for that and doubtful they'll offer more.

Before free agency began, a prevailing thought was Portland wanted Miller. But the Blazers, citing his terrible 3-point shooting, poor defense and age, have almost no interest in him.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

So, I wonder if this means KP has his sights set on Hinrich.

 

[hasoos]

Yea you guys keep throwing out Heinrich, Wallace, you name them. The deal isn't happening. This is exactly why I say wait until part way through the year, and there will still be free agents out there looking for a contract, and for cheap. If nothing else you sign them and use them for trade fodder later.

 

[elcap15]

of course one reason they go at a slower pace is that they don't have an athletic PG who can take people off the dribble and finish. Among Blake's positives is that he recognizes his limitations and doesn't try to more then he can, which is great and all but signing a PG like Miller would add a lot to a team's ability to run. While he isn't the outside shooter that Blake is, dude averaged 5 FTA a game last year to Steve's 1.

He's not the ideal PG for Portland, but he'd be an upgrade. He's been an ironman missing only 5 games in his 10 year career and has remained very productive posting impressive PERs the last few seasons. Given his age and the market, I could live with PDX offering something around 7M per for 3 years.

STOMP

Im not sure if you want to increase the pace. Blazers have one of the most efficient perimeter playmakers in Roy, and two of the best rebounding big men in the league, neither of which has shown the ability to play in a more uptempo game. Why would you want to increase the amount of possesions in a game.

I like Miller and would be an upgrade at the point, but not for the $10M/yr he is asking. Recently I have heard 3yrs at the midlevel and that does seem like a great deal.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Disagree a bit, ElCap. LMA is one of the fastest bigs down the floor in the league. He can play in a running game, provided Oden keeps up his rebounding %s. REbound, Outlet, Quick Pass up the floor to a sprinting LMA. Me LIkey.

 

[Minstrel]

Im not sure if you want to increase the pace. Blazers have one of the most efficient perimeter playmakers in Roy, and two of the best rebounding big men in the league, neither of which has shown the ability to play in a more uptempo game. Why would you want to increase the amount of possesions in a game.

I don't think it would be advisable to change the system, but it would be beneficial to run when there's an opportunity. Push the ball up after each rebounded miss; if you don't have the numbers, pull it back and execute your half-court offense. Every team can benefit from more easy baskets and Andre Miller can help ignite a few more fast breaks per game. Portland doesn't need to transform itself into a run & gun team.