Mom Shreds Bathroom Banners

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[riverman]

These would eliminate the need for labels at all

 

[isonoob]

If the mother doesn't want her daughter to be sexually harassed, let her get fat.

 

[e_blazer]

It's funny: so much of progress in civil rights brings about backlash. Like: Lesbians could get away with pretty much living together openly at least before the early 20th century because nobody heterosexual imagined their existence. (Queen Victoria famously refused to believe there were lesbians.) But the minute they start speaking out and being open, there's a massive shitfit and you can imagine a whole bunch of old-school Lesbians reminiscing about the old days. Same with transgender individuals. Your "friend of a Facebook friend" (sounds like someone in those items forwarded on email by my mother in law) has already been in many bathrooms with people with male genitalia. But now they are asking for the right, suddenly everybody's having a hissy fit. Y'know, if I'd been raped with regularity by some family acquaintance I don't know what I'd think, but I think I'd be more afraid of my family than strangers. I hope some of her "Facebook friends" were a bit more sympathetic, and perhaps pointed out that, while being raped by a family acquaintance is depressingly common, there are so far no known instances of transgender individuals raping people in public restrooms.

It is also so depressingly familiar that the big backlash against allowing transgender individuals the right to go where they'd probably being going anyway is couched in terms of "would you let your daughter..." It's always pitched to men as a violation of their duty to protect "their" vulnerable females. So the real subtext isn't even about the safety of girls (because, of course, this is not a real threat, certainly not in comparison with "normal" heterosexual men, as was the point of the original article, and no right-wingers are actually concerned with ending violence against girls, any more than they are interested in lowering the number of abortions by the most effective means of providing birth control) it's about men being emasculated. "Are you going to stand around and allow freaks to mess with your property? What kind of eunuch are you?"

Much of what you say is true. I'm sure transgender people have used the bathroom they preferred and nobody thought too much about it because, in most cases, they'd have no way of knowing. The issue only becomes a big deal when someone decides either to ban the practice or to mandate it. Then it becomes a big deal because people suddenly start thinking about who's going to be sharing their restroom facilities with them. I have little concern about transgender people being a safety concern to women in a public restroom setting, or anywhere else for that matter. I do have some concern about perverts who prey on women being inspired to make use of these new mandates to gain access to women in a vulnerable setting, but I suspect that's a pretty minor concern too. I was just trying to point out that there are people who are going to feel less safe and that their feelings matter too.

 

[Sinobas]

I think the main point of the anti-transgender-bathroomers is that rapists would go into the bathroom under the pretense of being "transgender". So her argument that "men are bad rapists" does not refute that point. She's also displaying the habit that annoys the hell out of me with liberals. They flip out if certain groups are painted with a "broad brush stroke" but other groups are fair game for ridiculous stereotyping. But that's another topic.

I think that transgender people that have put a lot of effort into looking like the opposite gender, would cause less anxiety if they just went into the bathroom of the gender they are trying to look like. But if they're not doing that, and they just want to go into the opposite gender bathroom because they "feel like a man or woman". I think that's lame. If I felt like a woman I wouldn't go into a woman's bathroom and startle the women there. That would be a fucking stupid and selfish thing to do. While we want to give transgender people respect, they should give the rest of society respect, because the world doesn't revolve around them.

In some cultures, men and women share the same public bathrooms, but in our culture we don't.

 

[dviss1]

I think that transgender people that have put a lot of effort into looking like the opposite gender, would cause less anxiety if they just went into the bathroom of the gender they are trying to look like.

This is what is now illegal in NC. The law literally says this transgender man HAS to go in the bathroom with your daughters:

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

AS WELL AS THESE TWO

 

[rasheedfan2005]

This is what is now illegal in NC. The law literally says this transgender man HAS to go in the bathroom with your daughters:

And if it walks into the mens bathroom who is going to stop it? Who is going to search for vagine?