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Sure I see the tweet. Do you object to the enforcing the law?

It's the punishment supposed to fit the crime or do you believe any force is necessary to apprehend a "lawbreaker" ?

NVM, why the fuck am I engaging with you when your first immediate thought is probably a question:

"Well, are they black or white?"
 
It's Phoenix Arizona in early June...

AT GUNPOINT THE FUCKING COP TELLS HER TO PUT HER BABY DOWN (THE BABY IS TO YOUNG TO WALK) ON THE HOT FUCKING CEMENT!!!!

It was 103 that day...

FUCK ANYONE THAT SUPPORTS THIS...
 
Well, as I said, I can't watch it.
But what is it? They are enforcing a law that you don't want enforced? Tell me I can't see it.
You gotta see it. I don't know what the cops were told prior but ONE cop was an out of control psychopath.

Every motherfickin cop on Earth knows the political climate of today and this motherfugger still goes nuts. I'm a bit scared for his family if he has one.
 
It's the punishment supposed to fit the crime or do you believe any force is necessary to apprehend a "lawbreaker" ?

NVM, why the fuck am I engaging with you when your first immediate thought is probably a question:

"Well, are they black or white?"
That's not fair. The only black or white he cares about is the letter of the law.

Even if this poor family technically broke the law I think the cop could be said to have done worse. Child endangerment?

Excessive force? Luckily their new lawyer knows better than me. GETEM!!
 
That's not fair. The only black or white he cares about is the letter of the law.

Even if this poor family technically broke the law I think the cop could be said to have done worse. Child endangerment?

Excessive force? Luckily their new lawyer knows better than me. GETEM!!

I'm going to tell it like it is. I hope you can take it like it is.

- Malcolm X
 
I'm going to tell it like it is. I hope you can take it like it is.

- Malcolm X
I'm not saying it isn't possible but I can tell you that all of the things I've known you to take issue with @MarAzul I've almost always seen the logic in his opinion.

Logic that often seems uncaring.



Back to that fucking psycho cop I'm sure he's as racist as they come but I'm also sure he'd do the same shit to a white family if they pissed him off. He's just more pissed at poor black people at the dollar store. How dare they waste his time and not do exactly what he screams at them? (Danny Green font I guess)

I honestly don't know what the best way to fix this is. Multi million dollar judgements? Then I gotta pay for it. That used to piss me off but fuck it. I pay for all kinds of shit already, what's one more.

I don't know the laws but the cops need to be on the hook for the verdicts too, not just us taxpayers.

If I were dictator I'd make the cop and the family he terrorized switch houses and cars. Let the cop drive the old Santa Fe (think that was it) and let this family have the hemi Charger or big diesel pickup.

90 percent chance he has one of those or a 5.0 Mustang.
 
Treat cops like the regular citizens they are. Assaults, harassment, hate crime, why are they immune? If I walk into my job and treat people like this I’d be arrested. It’s on video. There is no explaining this away. Make them pay (literally and figuratively). Lose jobs. Prison. Fines. Maybe being a power hungry cop wouldn’t be so appealing if they knew the consequences.
 
I'm not saying it isn't possible but I can tell you that all of the things I've known you to take issue with @MarAzul I've almost always seen the logic in his opinion.

Logic that often seems uncaring.



Back to that fucking psycho cop I'm sure he's as racist as they come but I'm also sure he'd do the same shit to a white family if they pissed him off. He's just more pissed at poor black people at the dollar store. How dare they waste his time and not do exactly what he screams at them? (Danny Green font I guess)

I honestly don't know what the best way to fix this is. Multi million dollar judgements? Then I gotta pay for it. That used to piss me off but fuck it. I pay for all kinds of shit already, what's one more.

I don't know the laws but the cops need to be on the hook for the verdicts too, not just us taxpayers.

If I were dictator I'd make the cop and the family he terrorized switch houses and cars. Let the cop drive the old Santa Fe (think that was it) and let this family have the hemi Charger or big diesel pickup.

90 percent chance he has one of those or a 5.0 Mustang.


The Ames family is doing just that.

Link to article:
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/phoenix-shoplifting-video-brutality-family-files-claim-11312081

Now, the man and family in the video — Dravon Ames, his pregnant fiancée, Iesha Harper, and their two young children — have filed a notice of claim against the city of Phoenix. The family is seeking $10 million in damages. Former Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne is representing the family.

Link to notice of claim:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6152346-AmesHarperDrakeNOC.html
 
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I'm not saying it isn't possible but I can tell you that all of the things I've known you to take issue with @MarAzul I've almost always seen the logic in his opinion.

Logic that often seems uncaring.



Back to that fucking psycho cop I'm sure he's as racist as they come but I'm also sure he'd do the same shit to a white family if they pissed him off. He's just more pissed at poor black people at the dollar store. How dare they waste his time and not do exactly what he screams at them? (Danny Green font I guess)

I honestly don't know what the best way to fix this is. Multi million dollar judgements? Then I gotta pay for it. That used to piss me off but fuck it. I pay for all kinds of shit already, what's one more.

I don't know the laws but the cops need to be on the hook for the verdicts too, not just us taxpayers.

If I were dictator I'd make the cop and the family he terrorized switch houses and cars. Let the cop drive the old Santa Fe (think that was it) and let this family have the hemi Charger or big diesel pickup.

90 percent chance he has one of those or a 5.0 Mustang.

You know how when you ride a roller coaster they have the photo of you waiting for you at the end of the ride?

Anytime you are stopped by the police they should have to email you the video of your interaction with them.
 
You know how when you ride a roller coaster they have the photo of you waiting for you at the end of the ride?

Anytime you are stopped by the police they should have to email you the video of your interaction with them.
With facial recognition and technology everywhere they should probably let people go and issue a summons if needed.

Then they can stick to writing tickets to fund themselves.
 
Were you aware it is possible to investigate an allegation, even enforce a law, without resorting to deadly force?

It's the punishment supposed to fit the crime or do you believe any force is necessary to apprehend a "lawbreaker" ?

I think it is a matter of what the people hire. Do you hire a police chief and tell him what you want? Or do you hire one and take what you get?
 
You gotta see it. I don't know what the cops were told prior but ONE cop was an out of control psychopath.

Every motherfickin cop on Earth knows the political climate of today and this motherfugger still goes nuts. I'm a bit scared for his family if he has one.

I expect the one stopping me to be psychopath every time it happens.
 
I think it is a matter of what the people hire. Do you hire a police chief and tell him what you want? Or do you hire one and take what you get?

Of course, you must elect people that hire the Chief to be knowledgeable enough to know what needs to be changed, tough enough to stick with it and follow through. It isn't happening in very many Cities. All run by Democrats.
@oldmangrouch @dviss1 @bodyman5000 and 1
 
Of course, you must elect people that hire the Chief to be knowledgeable enough to know what needs to be changed, tough enough to stick with it and follow through. It isn't happening in very many Cities. All run by Democrats.
@oldmangrouch @dviss1 @bodyman5000 and 1
They should hire me. I'll ride with these dummies and when they do this crap I'll smack em in the nose with a rolled up magazine and say NO NO NO, BAD
 
Holy crap. This subject's been beat to death. How much more can we squeeze out of it?
 
That looks virtually impossible at this point to me.
Really? We pretty much all agree it is a problem so we should probably start figuring it out. My sarcastic militia comment might be a start. Some sort of volunteer force to police the police.

Then we'll pay the cops that want to stick it out 35 percent more.

My summons idea could be implementedd quite easily.

Then the cops can roll up in their armored swat vehicles and get a good look at people, take pics and run the plates.

No need to show insurance cards, they know immediately if your insurance is valid in NV.

Announce over the loudspeaker that they will issue a summons unless the occupants WANT to explain their side right away.

They can get out with their hands up and let the cops cuff them so they don't feel scared and tempted to "pop a cap" in someone.

You can't get away with shit due to technology now. If you get tresspassed from a Vegas casino their facial recognition software knows if you walk in. They'll catch you.

We need to do something because this shit is getting ridiculous.

Now black people are so terrified of the police that they are going to get confused by these cops barking orders and we're going to get MORE deaths, not less.

Obviously you'd think with the press they're getting they'd watch themselves but it is getting worse.
 
Really? We pretty much all agree it is a problem so we should probably start figuring it out. My sarcastic militia comment might be a start. Some sort of volunteer force to police the police.

Then we'll pay the cops that want to stick it out 35 percent more.

My summons idea could be implementedd quite easily.

Then the cops can roll up in their armored swat vehicles and get a good look at people, take pics and run the plates.

No need to show insurance cards, they know immediately if your insurance is valid in NV.

Announce over the loudspeaker that they will issue a summons unless the occupants WANT to explain their side right away.

They can get out with their hands up and let the cops cuff them so they don't feel scared and tempted to "pop a cap" in someone.

You can't get away with shit due to technology now. If you get tresspassed from a Vegas casino their facial recognition software knows if you walk in. They'll catch you.

We need to do something because this shit is getting ridiculous.

Now black people are so terrified of the police that they are going to get confused by these cops barking orders and we're going to get MORE deaths, not less.

Obviously you'd think with the press they're getting they'd watch themselves but it is getting worse.
Don't you think that easy solutions would have been thought of by now by people with advanced degrees in Urban Planning, sociology, criminal justice, criminal law and the like?
 
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Don't you think that easy solutions would have been thought of by now by people with advanced degrees in Urban Planning, sociology, criminal justice, criminal law and the like? But some guy who rebuilds wrecked cars is gonna beat them all to the punch.
Next time the bleeding starts...embrace it. Go towards the light.

Run Forrest, run.
 
Next time the bleeding starts...embrace it. Go towards the light.

Run Forrest, run.
I'm gonna let you blue collar workers solve what white collar workers have been attempting for many decades. And to think, it will all happen in here.
Reminds me of the screwball I worked with at Tektronix. He was just sure that his high school education was just the ticket for inventing a perpetual motion machine. In fact, he said he could make lots of energy out of nothing.
 
I'm gonna let you blue collar workers solve what white collar workers have been attempting for many decades. And to think, it will all happen in here.
Reminds me of the screwball I worked with at Tektronix. He was just sure that his high school education was just the ticket for inventing a perpetual motion machine. In fact, he said he could make lots of energy out of nothing.
See if he has figured out how to keep crippled old assholes alive for 3 more months. You might make him rich.
 
Don't you think that easy solutions would have been thought of by now by people with advanced degrees in Urban Planning, sociology, criminal justice, criminal law and the like? But some guy who rebuilds wrecked cars is gonna beat them all to the punch.
Here's one of your educated elites in her own words. She'll fix everything.
 
Seems pretty textbook police procedure when dealing with unknown multiple adult theft suspects who are fleeing the scene with unknown children, then refusing to comply with police to stop and get out of the car, endangering their children by not showing her hands which could be going for a weapon. And the guy clearly was not spreading his legs when ordered so the cop kicked them apart. They could have cooperated and discussed the situation but instead chose to run, then obstruct, and I just don't see the issue here. Courts have already concluded cops have the okay to lie, yell, berate and insult in the general course of their duty.

Much millennial outrage about cops doing their job, and no outrage about the career criminal couple teaching their children to be career criminals like them.
 

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