Most likely Blazer to be traded as of today

[BoomChakaLaka]

For me, it would be a total "no brainer" to trade Rudy if he's creating a problem for Roy. I choose Roy over any player on our team and he's not even my favorite player. What Roy brings to this team is more valuable than just points. He's a great "role model", great with media, makes others better and doesn't care about his personal stats for the betterment of the team. I can see Rudy eventually getting "primadonna" on us.

Early on in the season (opening weeks) I remember hearing of Rudy's concerns with his playing time - - and remembering back to the summer as we were trying to land the Turk...Rudy was vocal in the media overseas! He is easily capable of getting primadona on us, as you say.


My only thought on Rudy - going back to my original thread, is that he stands the greatest shot at being part of a trade. I think of all of the players in my top four or five "likely to be traded" rankings, he's also has the most perceived (maybe "real") value to other teams!

To New York: Rudy would be more valuable than Blake, Miller, or an injured Outlaw or Pryzbilla.

To an Orlando team: same thing

To a Washington team: same thing (and perhaps an opportunity to land Butler, since Rudy could swing between the 2 / 3 positions)

When thinking on it, Rudy would be more valuable to most teams over Miller, Blake or Outlaw.

Only Blake and Outlaw could have a higher value - and only to a team desiring their expiring contracts.

This is why I think a combination of Rudy + Blake, or Rudy + Blake + Outlaw = most likely trade candidates.

I don't see KP making a blockbuster deal during the season (meaning, a trade involving LMA for Bosh, for example).

 

[RR7]

I don't think Bass is that much of a back to the basket player. I don't know where a lot of the thought about Bass has stemmed from. He has seemed to transform over the last 2 years from a deecnt player to mythical levels amongst some Blazer fans, being the ideal banger backup we need, when he's not a back to the basket player, or all that great of a rebounder, really. I almost feel bad, because as the hyperbole of him as spread, I have grown to despise him as a player, simply because of this. He shoots a higher percentage of jumpers this season than Aldridge does. And rebounds worse than him. I don't know what it is. I'm not trying to completely put him down. He's a serviceable player. I just think people have an image of him, and that image doesn't jive with what he actually is as a player. And I think we'd get him here, and be severely disappointed in what he is.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

I don't think Bass is that much of a back to the basket player. I don't know where a lot of the thought about Bass has stemmed from. He has seemed to transform over the last 2 years from a deecnt player to mythical levels amongst some Blazer fans, being the ideal banger backup we need, when he's not a back to the basket player, or all that great of a rebounder, really. I almost feel bad, because as the hyperbole of him as spread, I have grown to despise him as a player, simply because of this. He shoots a higher percentage of jumpers this season than Aldridge does. And rebounds worse than him. I don't know what it is. I'm not trying to completely put him down. He's a serviceable player. I just think people have an image of him, and that image doesn't jive with what he actually is as a player. And I think we'd get him here, and be severely disappointed in what he is.

I'm in agreement. He is a body at PF to play behind LMA and ahead of Pendergraph. And he's on my list ONLY because I'd like to land Gortat so we have a presence in the middle for the next 50 games...and to back up Oden in the years to come.

I also am with the belief that we must consolidate our guard/small forward situation....or when everyone is healthy again - we'll be in the same pickle as we had at the start of this season!

 

[Kaydow]

I guess I don't see him being THAT explosive (scorers like that can typically handle the ball and create their own shot at least a little) and he'll certainly never be that here.

Regardless, I don't really care what he does for some other team, I only care about two things: 1) Does he fit here longterm? and 2) if he doesn't fit, does trading him allow you to fill a more pressing need? The first question seems somewhat in doubt since he plays the same position as Brandon, doesn't handle the ball well enough to play point guard and doesn't defend particularly well. The second? Well, it's just a hunch, but I suspect there are GMs out there that would like to add him to their roster and would be willing to part with good players to get him.

I'm not saying trade him now, or even this year ... I'm just saying people should keep an open mind about Rudy.

From what we hear, he's highly thought of around the league - possibly a little overated. If there is a chance to package him with some expirings for the right guy - do it. The only way Rudy drops 40 is if Steve Nash is setting him up all night - he's not that dynamic of an offensive player. If he's not shooting 3's or throwing down alley-oops, how does he get his points? As a Blazer, 63% of his shot attemps have been 3's!! No pump fake/pull up 16' jumpers, not many floaters in the lane, just not many ways for him to score points (in the half court especially) And I think he's careless with the ball sometimes tyring to make the flashy play. But he can make it rain!

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

I'm probably sounding like a broken record (i.e. Gortat, Bass, etc.) but I just don't see other possibilities.

Reading a past post about trading Blake and others for Memphis' Gasol was very unrealistic to me! And if we want to target a Center who is currently stuck behind Howard - and not playing enough...it is Gortat.

Others may point at Okafur. I'm certain New Orleans would just love to rid themselves of this deadbeat. So why bother bringing him to Portland? A trade of Rudy + Blake + Outlaw might get us Okafur....but I'd rather obtain Gortat with Bass coming back our way.....any day of the week.

 

[RR7]

I can't see, having to get through Boston and Cleveland, Orlando being too keen on moving GOrtat. This offseason, I think they will, because they can get value for him, an dsign a cheaper replacement.

As for other C options around the league, some deal based around Blake for Big Baby, perhaps? They are said to want a point behind Rondo. House is more of a 2. Tyson Chandler? Kwame. Turiaf? Troy Murphy? Jeff Foster? Gadzuric. Mark Blount. Tony Battie. Hilton Armstrong. Okafor. David Lee, if we took Jeffries. Nick Collison. Dalembert. Robin Lopez. Haywood.

Some are unlikely. Some are unlikely to help. I'd prefer Pendergraph over quite a few. But they are bodies, likely available for somewhat cheap, that could all help in some form or another.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

I can't see, having to get through Boston and Cleveland, Orlando being too keen on moving GOrtat. This offseason, I think they will, because they can get value for him, an dsign a cheaper replacement.

As for other C options around the league, some deal based around Blake for Big Baby, perhaps? They are said to want a point behind Rondo. House is more of a 2. Tyson Chandler? Kwame. Turiaf? Troy Murphy? Jeff Foster? Gadzuric. Mark Blount. Tony Battie. Hilton Armstrong. Okafor. David Lee, if we took Jeffries. Nick Collison. Dalembert. Robin Lopez. Haywood.

Some are unlikely. Some are unlikely to help. I'd prefer Pendergraph over quite a few. But they are bodies, likely available for somewhat cheap, that could all help in some form or another.

That is slim pick'ns in my book. Turiaf (but he's been injured, so how big of a help to us in unknown), Chandler is hurt now, Collison has ties to Nate?, and Lee would be a nice addition - but he's 6'-9." Keep the rest, unless Okafur didn't take much to get. Not sure which Lopez is which - but the one playing for NJ I'd covet! I think you are referring to the one playing with the Suns?

 

[drexlersdad]

i like how this thread is always relevant thanks to its title.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

i like how this thread is always relevant thanks to its title.

Well, always relevant....only means that it was "on point!"

After tonights home loss to Philly (which I predicted - see Blazer/Philly prediction thread) it is because we need BIGS!

So it is only relevant (still) because the facts remain the same - not because of the title per se.





I now predict (with all kind of hope!) that KP will awake from Christmas Holidays and make something happen.

 

[EGame]

Trade Bayless hs sucks now!

 

[MIXUM]

we need a trade....

its kps time to decide if we tank or pursue playoffs

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

we need a trade....

its kps time to decide if we tank or pursue playoffs

Two upcoming Clipper losses and a Warrior loss - - -? would this get KP to make changes?


I'm nervous about both the Clippers (twice) and Warriors games!

 

[Kaydow]

Two upcoming Clipper losses and a Warrior loss - - -? would this get KP to make changes?


I'm nervous about both the Clippers (twice) and Warriors games!

I'm nervous about every game with this team. Our margin for error isn't very great. I still think this group is a .500 team, and .500 teams do lose to bad teams - even at home.

 

[MIXUM]

sheridan seems to think a trade will go down... but who?


Phil B (Pdx)

where do you see the blazers finishing this year? the past week has been inspired, but can they sustain it?
Chris Sheridan (3:06 PM)

Gotta see how they resolve their big man shortage. The Pryzbilla injury, in some ways, was just as devastating as Oden's. I don't know how many more 36 minute outings Juwan Howard has left in his tank, and we still need to see who will end up being the odd man out among Blake-Miller-Bayless by the time the trade deadline passes, which I guess is a long-winded way of saying I have no idea how they'll fare long-term this season because I expect them to make a few significant changes fairly soon.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

sheridan seems to think a trade will go down... but who?


Phil B (Pdx)

where do you see the blazers finishing this year? the past week has been inspired, but can they sustain it?
Chris Sheridan (3:06 PM)

Gotta see how they resolve their big man shortage. The Pryzbilla injury, in some ways, was just as devastating as Oden's. I don't know how many more 36 minute outings Juwan Howard has left in his tank, and we still need to see who will end up being the odd man out among Blake-Miller-Bayless by the time the trade deadline passes, which I guess is a long-winded way of saying I have no idea how they'll fare long-term this season because I expect them to make a few significant changes fairly soon.

Pretty obvious to me. With a record of 20-13, we have 49 games remaining this season...and strong prospects that Oden will start slow next year...and Pryzbilla won't be available until January 2011.

We need a Center! Tonight's game against a 7-20 Sixters team proved a whole bunch to this regard.


Not many teams are going to covet Miller. Blake (yes, he's an expiring contract). Rudy - he's overrated around the league...but we all know better! Outlaw: if a team is truly looking to dump salary, then "maybe" they'll trade for an injured player??

PS: Any takers for Webster, by the way - - - how high did we draft him?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Pretty obvious to me. With a record of 20-13, we have 49 games remaining this season...and strong prospects that Oden will start slow next year...and Pryzbilla won't be available until January 2011.

We need a Center! Tonight's game against a 7-20 Sixters team proved a whole bunch to this regard.


Not many teams are going to covet Miller. Blake (yes, he's an expiring contract). Rudy - he's overrated around the league...but we all know better! Outlaw: if a team is truly looking to dump salary, then "maybe" they'll trade for an injured player??

PS: Any takers for Webster, by the way - - - how high did we draft him?

My car can kick your cars ass.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

My car can kick your cars ass.

Most likely - NOT!




What is your ass-whipper?

 

[BlazerWookee]

The Polish Hammer

I thought a Polish Hammer was the handle of a screwdriver?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I thought a Polish Hammer was the handle of a screwdriver?

Ahh, dumb polock jokes. The height of comedy.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The 'Polish Hammer' has been a huge disappointment this season.

3.2 PPG
3.6 RPG
13.0 MPG

 

[RR7]

Not much different than his last season stats. He does play behind the best C in the league. not like he can do much to "earn" minutes.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

The 'Polish Hammer' has been a huge disappointment this season.

3.2 PPG
3.6 RPG
13.0 MPG

Of course, from way out West we don't know the details, but from what I'm gathering, he simply doesn't play.

For a guard (Blake) and a draw (Rudy)* - I think we can obtain Gortat and a pick. And if we want to find one additional (and mutual) benefit by trading with Orlando - we should include Outlaw and take back Bass and Jason Williams (then waive / cut Williams, if need be).


WE NEED A CENTER!



* Orlando needs a guard, with Nelson's nagging injuries; Rudy, being from Spain, would have a huge following in Florida - he'd soon be a fan favorite, especially with his flashy/fun style of play, etc.

 

[hasoos]

I haven't really seen the Blazers come up in any rumors so far. But really the only thing that seems to be cooking at all right now would be McGrady wanting out of Houston, and Nate Robinson wanting out of NY, and Portland hasn't been mentioned in any of those scenarios. The only thing I read about was that Portland is watching to see if they will buy out McGrady flat out so he can get picked up for a reasonable price.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

I haven't really seen the Blazers come up in any rumors so far. But really the only thing that seems to be cooking at all right now would be McGrady wanting out of Houston, and Nate Robinson wanting out of NY, and Portland hasn't been mentioned in any of those scenarios. The only thing I read about was that Portland is watching to see if they will buy out McGrady flat out so he can get picked up for a reasonable price.

Does McGrady do anything for us? I mean, he'll demand nothing short of 15-20 shots a night, taking away from Roy's attempts.

And with our current karma, he'd arrive and get injured in his second game!


PS: I scour the RUMOR MILLS on the net, and I agree with you - aside from all the Lebron chatter, I'm only reading snippets about Nate Robinson demanding a trade...McGrady going home - presumably awaiting a buyout or trade...and some talk about Golden State listening to all offers, and Camby being available (as he has the league's largest expiring contract).


Funny thing about trades: the trades typically go down, then we hear of them! Rumors rarely pan out to be true!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Of course, from way out West we don't know the details, but from what I'm gathering, he simply doesn't play.

For a guard (Blake) and a draw (Rudy)* - I think we can obtain Gortat and a pick. And if we want to find one additional (and mutual) benefit by trading with Orlando - we should include Outlaw and take back Bass and Jason Williams (then waive / cut Williams, if need be).


WE NEED A CENTER!



* Orlando needs a guard, with Nelson's nagging injuries; Rudy, being from Spain, would have a huge following in Florida - he'd soon be a fan favorite, especially with his flashy/fun style of play, etc.

Orlando is keeping Gortat for insurance against a dwight injury and for the playoffs when he'll become much more valuable to them.

As for the rest, I don't see Steve as much of an upgrade over the two backup point guards they already have and I'm not sure what Rudy being from Spain has to do with him gaining a following in Florida, he's not Cuban, or Dominican -- that's like saying Joel Freeland would be a huge fan favorite here in Portland because he speaks English.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

talk about Golden State listening to all offers

Is Biedrins available?

 

[LittleAlex]

I haven't really seen the Blazers come up in any rumors so far. But really the only thing that seems to be cooking at all right now would be McGrady wanting out of Houston, and Nate Robinson wanting out of NY, and Portland hasn't been mentioned in any of those scenarios. The only thing I read about was that Portland is watching to see if they will buy out McGrady flat out so he can get picked up for a reasonable price.

The only reasonable price for McGrady would be him paying Portland 500K to play here and attempt to rehab his image. Other then that KneeMac can feel free to never play in the NBA ever again.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Signing T-Mac would ensure us a first-round berth. And a first-round exit.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Orlando is keeping Gortat for insurance against a dwight injury and for the playoffs when he'll become much more valuable to them.

As for the rest, I don't see Steve as much of an upgrade over the two backup point guards they already have and I'm not sure what Rudy being from Spain has to do with him gaining a following in Florida, he's not Cuban, or Dominican -- that's like saying Joel Freeland would be a huge fan favorite here in Portland because he speaks English.

My wife is Mexican - and Rudy is her favorite! [love of one's culture and language].

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Signing T-Mac would ensure us a first-round berth. And a first-round exit.