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[Hoopguru]

Mueller has already been forced to indict a lot of people. I'm sure another one won't bother him any.

barfo

When do you think his investigation will wrap up?

Do you think he will find Trump guilty of obstruction and/or collusion?

 

[barfo]

When do you think his investigation will wrap up?

Do you think he will find Trump guilty of obstruction and/or collusion?

If not prematurely terminated, the investigation will run at least another year, maybe more.

Mueller doesn't have the power to find Trump guilty, or even to indict him. But my best guess is that Trump will be an unindicted co-conspirator on the collusion. Obstruction of justice is pretty obvious without even knowing what Mueller knows. But whether he can be impeached and convicted for it (and/or for collusion)? Dunno, it's completely a political question, in that it depends on whether the Senate Republicans want to keep him, or would rather have Pence.

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

If not prematurely terminated, the investigation will run at least another year, maybe more.

Mueller doesn't have the power to find Trump guilty, or even to indict him. But my best guess is that Trump will be an unindicted co-conspirator on the collusion. Obstruction of justice is pretty obvious without even knowing what Mueller knows. But whether he can be impeached and convicted for it (and/or for collusion)? Dunno, it's completely a political question, in that it depends on whether the Senate Republicans want to keep him, or would rather have Pence.

barfo

Do you thing the indictments supposedly coming down are for obstruction/and or collusion? Or something else?
Thanks

 

[barfo]

Do you thing the indictments supposedly coming down are for obstruction/and or collusion? Or something else?
Thanks

My bet would be next indictments are for collusion as he seems to be concentrating on Stone et al. Obstruction is mostly/entirely going to be against the president himself, and I assume that comes last. But of course I don't really know, and it's possible that there are more money-laundering charges to come first.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Do you thing the indictments supposedly coming down are for obstruction/and or collusion? Or something else?
Thanks

Jaywalking. It's an epidemic.

 

[Lanny]

When do you think his investigation will wrap up?

Do you think he will find Trump guilty of obstruction and/or collusion?

There's no such law pertaining to collusion. There is a law against conspiracy.

 

[Lanny]

My bet would be next indictments are for collusion as he seems to be concentrating on Stone et al. Obstruction is mostly/entirely going to be against the president himself, and I assume that comes last. But of course I don't really know, and it's possible that there are more money-laundering charges to come first.

barfo

I suspect Trump has committed quite a few crimes as has his family.

 

[MARIS61]

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[OS] US/CT - 5/19 -Some FBI agents are angered by plan to extend tenure of Director Robert Mueller
Released on 2012-10-18 17:00 GMT

Email-ID 1371931
Date 2011-05-20 13:56:38
From michael.wilson@stratfor.com
To os@stratfor.com
[OS] US/CT - 5/19 -

Some FBI agents are angered by plan to extend tenure of Director Robert Mueller

By Jerry Markon, Published: May 19
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...robert-mueller/2011/05/19/AF76cP7G_print.html
President Obama's plan to keep FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III in
office beyond his 10-year term has triggered an angry reaction among some
agents, who say Mueller imposed term limits on hundreds of supervisors in
the agency but is failing to abide by legal limits set on his own tenure.

The accusations of hypocrisy come as Congress is considering whether to
grant Obama's request to allow Mueller two more years in office - an
extension the president said would provide stability as other national
security agencies undergo major transitions in leadership.

"We understand the desire for stability,'' said Konrad Motyka, president
of the FBI Agents Association, which is renewing its call for an end to
the term-limit policy. "But people are saying, `What about my stability?'
It's ironic that this desire for stability did not apply to supervisors
within the FBI.''

The FBI's policy, which is unusual among law enforcement agencies, was
adopted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Known as "up or
out,'' it requires FBI supervisors to leave their posts after seven years
and compete for other managerial jobs, retire or accept a demotion in the
same field office with lower pay.

FBI officials say the term limits have brought strong managers into
hundreds of positions created in the years after Sept. 11. But the plan to
retain Mueller has revived long-simmering tensions over the policy, which
some say has robbed the bureau of veteran supervisors who retired because
they did not get promoted.

Some agents, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of
retaliation, expressed anger at the thought of Mueller staying when others
have left.

"People are up in arms about this,'' said one agent, who likened the news
to "a shot in the kneecaps.''

"We have lost valuable experience,'' the agent said. "I've seen people,
some really significant contributors to this organization and to this
country, who are questioning their self-worth now and who are basically
bitter.''

White House officials declined to comment beyond Obama's statement last
week. A spokesman for Mueller declined to comment, citing the pending
request to extend Mueller's tenure. No significant opposition to the
proposal has emerged in Congress, where Mueller generally enjoys
bipartisan support.

The request has drawn strong support from congressional Democrats,
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and the FBI Intelligence Analysts
Association, which on Wednesday called Mueller "a tremendous catalyst and
leader.''

Justice Department officials and former FBI officials say Mueller, who
took over the post a week before the 2001 attacks, has a strong record and
has successfully led the effort to prevent another terrorist strike in the
United States. They say the dispute reflects resistance to change at the
tradition-bound agency, which has added nearly 3,000 agents since the
attacks, has tripled the number of analysts and is transforming into an
intelligence agency focused on preventing terrorist strikes.

"Any organization which underwent such dramatic change will always produce
a small group of detractors,'' said Neil H. MacBride, the U.S. attorney in
Alexandria, who has worked extensively with Mueller and said his
initiatives have been "transformative.''

Michael Heimbach, who was Mueller's assistant director of counterterrorism
until 2009, said Mueller's term limit is "totally different than
up-or-out. . . . He's leading the FBI. He's not supervising a squad.''

An FBI official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the
sensitivity of the issue, said Mueller did not seek the extension and
considered it carefully.

"This is a term limit. There's a statute,'' the official said. "But when
the president calls and you're the type of guy the director is, it's very
hard to say no.''

The official said that "you'd have to be blind not to see that there is
irony" in Mueller's decision to stay, but added: "We're at the highest
[terrorist] threat level we've ever been. This isn't the time to change
directors.''

Heimbach said Mueller, a former Marine, may have alienated some agents in
the FBI's "old guard" with his hard-driving, demanding style. Some agents
also criticized Mueller in interviews this week as too top-down, aloof and
not focused on their concerns.

"Did I like getting up at 4:30 every morning and facing him at 7? Heck
no,'' Heimbach said. "But I respected him, and I can't imagine the
president not wanting to keep him.''

The up-or-out policy emerged after hundreds of FBI jobs were created in
the wake of Sept. 11. It has been challenged in a lawsuit, filed in
federal court in Washington in December by current and retired agents,
that accuses the FBI of discriminating against older agents.

The FBI denies any discrimination and is asking a judge to dismiss the
case. In a sworn statement filed in court, FBI Deputy Director Timothy P.
Murphy wrote that he was "shocked to learn" in 2002 that so few
supervisors were applying for new higher-level management positions.

To encourage more applicants, Murphy and another official designed a plan
to limit to five years the terms of supervisory special agents, who manage
squads of agents in FBI field offices. The policy was enacted in June 2004
after Mueller signed off on it; the limit was extended to seven years in
2008.

FBI officials argue that it has been highly successful, saying that half
of the 1,055 supervisors affected have advanced to higher-level positions,
while the rest chose to retire, were demoted or resigned.

But one agent said he was "flabbergasted" that Mueller agreed to stay when
others have departed.

"Most people think it's ironic and hypocritical on his part,'' the agent
said. "A lot of really bright people left. It's a shame.''
--
Michael Wilson
Senior Watch Officer, STRATFOR
Office: (512) 744 4300 ex. 4112
Email: michael.wilson@stratfor.com

 

[MarAzul]

Knowing Mueller was a Marine, and I read, supposedly a Republican, I would like to talk with the man. Just to see if he still has a mind. I have worked with good Marines, and good Republicans. I can't see the bugger filling either role.

 

[CupWizier]

Knowing Mueller was a Marine, and I read, supposedly a Republican, I would like to talk with the man. Just to see if he still has a mind. I have worked with good Marines, and good Republicans. I can't see the bugger filling either role.

and you aren't in a position to make that assessment. Muellers knowledge and ability is far superior to yours when it comes to laws and investigations.

 

[MARIS61]

and you aren't in a position to make that assessment. Muellers knowledge and ability is far superior to yours when it comes to laws and investigations.

"you aren't in a position to make that assessment." CupWizier

 

[CupWizier]

"you aren't in a position to make that assessment." CupWizier

I know what i posted. No need for you to repeat it.

 

[MARIS61]

Appellate court plans closed session in mystery plaintiff's suit against Mueller
By Bill Mears | Fox News

Corsi looks to file criminal complaint against Mueller

Jerome Corsi has instructed his attorneys to file a complaint with Acting AG Whitaker; reaction from National Security attorney Brad Moss and Fox News contributor Jason Chaffetz.

A federal appeals court announced Friday that it would hold a closed oral argument session on Dec. 14, to address a lawsuit apparently filed against Special Counsel Robert Mueller by an unidentified grand jury witness.

Much of the detail in the case remains under seal, and there has been intense speculation in the legal and political communities over the identity of the mystery appellant.

Speculation in some media was that President Trump himself had filed the lawsuit back in August, but his attorney denied it.

The suit could be related to a possible subpoena for the witness to appear before the federal grand jury empaneled by Mueller, who is looking into a range of issues, including the extent of Russia interference in the 2016 election.

This case is not related to the appeal by Andrew Miller, a former associate of Trump confidant Roger Stone, who is resisting a Mueller subpoena. Miller’s case was argued Nov. 8 before the same D.C.-based appeals court.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ap...on-in-mystery-plaintiffs-suit-against-mueller

 

[MARIS61]

I know what i posted. No need for you to repeat it.

"you aren't in a position to make that assessment." CupWizier

 

[Lanny]

Appellate court plans closed session in mystery plaintiff's suit against Mueller
By Bill Mears | Fox News

Corsi looks to file criminal complaint against Mueller

Jerome Corsi has instructed his attorneys to file a complaint with Acting AG Whitaker; reaction from National Security attorney Brad Moss and Fox News contributor Jason Chaffetz.

A federal appeals court announced Friday that it would hold a closed oral argument session on Dec. 14, to address a lawsuit apparently filed against Special Counsel Robert Mueller by an unidentified grand jury witness.

Much of the detail in the case remains under seal, and there has been intense speculation in the legal and political communities over the identity of the mystery appellant.

Speculation in some media was that President Trump himself had filed the lawsuit back in August, but his attorney denied it.

The suit could be related to a possible subpoena for the witness to appear before the federal grand jury empaneled by Mueller, who is looking into a range of issues, including the extent of Russia interference in the 2016 election.

This case is not related to the appeal by Andrew Miller, a former associate of Trump confidant Roger Stone, who is resisting a Mueller subpoena. Miller’s case was argued Nov. 8 before the same D.C.-based appeals court.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ap...on-in-mystery-plaintiffs-suit-against-mueller

Oh yeah, you're gonna get action out of that. LOL

 

[MARIS61]

Mark Penn: The Mueller investigation has come up empty on Russia -- You won’t believe what's coming next

By Mark Penn | Fox News
The pattern and purpose of Mueller’s investigation and the endgame is becoming clear, and yes, it’s clearly get the president at all costs. The team Mueller hired really foretold the story — Andrew Weissmann as the stop-at-nothing pit bull and a group of Democratic-leaning lawyers, including some who have represented the Clintons, had the obstruction of justice charge ready to go on day one.

Trump’s first team of lawyers with their “don’t worry and cooperate” strategy set the president back, and let the whole thing spiral out of control.

The investigation, I believe, has come up truly empty on its central charge related to the president — collusion with the Russian government. They are now trying to find someone, anyone who had any contact with Julian Assange with the aim of calling that collusion-lite.

But mostly what Mueller’s team is doing is bludgeoning witnesses on unrelated charges to piece together a case against the president. They are shaping that case through the indictments -- and threats of indictments -- that are being used to get guilty pleas to make the president seem like an obstructor or co-conspirator. They are literally creating the crimes.

Let’s review what Mueller and his team are doing:

Michael Flynn — They discovered unreported lobbying by Trump's former National Security Adviser and leveraged that to get him to plead guilty to lying to the FBI. Why? So that they can claim Trump’s comment to James Comey about letting him go was obstruction of justice. Yet no other prosecutor would ever have brought this charge.

Michael Cohen — They got Trump’s former lawyer on all sorts of financial crimes related to his businesses and loans. But he pled guilty to campaign finance violations for payments that in the past would have been ruled on as personal expenses. Now they’ve also gotten him to cop to lying about when he killed the perfectly legal Russia tower project, only it appears that Trump’s lawyers ducked that perjury trap in the written questions.

George Papadopoulos— The former member of Trump’s foreign policy advisory panel was forced to plead to lying about the timing of his contacts. The goal was to legitimize the start of the investigation around him when all he did was pass on a surmise or a tip he received. Was the time and expense worth a 14-day sentence? Of course not. They had all the records they needed to figure out who he contacted when.

Jerome Corsi – The best-selling author was threatened with pleading to lying about his contacts with his friend and former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone. There was nothing illegal about his comments or actions, and he is a journalist, though obviously, the general rules of journalism don’t apply to conservatives like him.

Roger Stone -- The former Trump campaign adviser sent out a tweet suggesting Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta was next, and an email to Corsi asking him to get the rest of the emails. He was obviously trying to find out what was going on with these emails, and that’s not illegal in any way.

Paul Manafort – The former Trump presidential campaign chairman’s old tax and reporting cases going far back were dusted off to get him under the thumb of the prosecutor. It was revealed that he continued a joint defense agreement with the president and suddenly the prosecutor is saying he lied about his business dealings. It’s all about vengeance on him for failing to give them what they want and to make Trump look bad.

Sure, there are some anonymous Russians who will never be tried to add on top of this record. But it’s clear now Mueller is no longer looking for crimes in the presidential race of 2016. He is simply creating a narrative to delegitimize the president and to string together his words to Comey with the Flynn indictment, Cohen with Stormy Daniels payment, Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi with ties to Julian Assange, and now Cohen with underplaying Russia connections. And let’s not forget the Trump Tower meeting with the attorney who was also conveniently working with Fusion GPS.

There’s no doubt that the outline of Mueller’s report was written a long time ago and is being filled in. For those who thought Mueller would deliver a balanced and thoughtful report, these latest actions suggest that instead, we are seeing an all-out attack on the president and the presidency the likes of which we have never seen.

Get ready for the fight of the century coming soon and it will be about everything except collusion with the Russian government.

Mark Penn is managing director of the Stagwell Group. He was chief strategist on Bill Clinton’s 1996 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, and Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mar...-on-russia-you-wont-believe-whats-coming-next

 

[CupWizier]

"you aren't in a position to make that assessment." CupWizier

I know what I posted. No reason for you to repeat it.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Mark Penn: The Mueller investigation has come up empty on Russia -- You won’t believe what's coming next

By Mark Penn | Fox News
The pattern and purpose of Mueller’s investigation and the endgame is becoming clear, and yes, it’s clearly get the president at all costs. The team Mueller hired really foretold the story — Andrew Weissmann as the stop-at-nothing pit bull and a group of Democratic-leaning lawyers, including some who have represented the Clintons, had the obstruction of justice charge ready to go on day one.

Trump’s first team of lawyers with their “don’t worry and cooperate” strategy set the president back, and let the whole thing spiral out of control.

The investigation, I believe, has come up truly empty on its central charge related to the president — collusion with the Russian government. They are now trying to find someone, anyone who had any contact with Julian Assange with the aim of calling that collusion-lite.

But mostly what Mueller’s team is doing is bludgeoning witnesses on unrelated charges to piece together a case against the president. They are shaping that case through the indictments -- and threats of indictments -- that are being used to get guilty pleas to make the president seem like an obstructor or co-conspirator. They are literally creating the crimes.

Let’s review what Mueller and his team are doing:

Michael Flynn — They discovered unreported lobbying by Trump's former National Security Adviser and leveraged that to get him to plead guilty to lying to the FBI. Why? So that they can claim Trump’s comment to James Comey about letting him go was obstruction of justice. Yet no other prosecutor would ever have brought this charge.

Michael Cohen — They got Trump’s former lawyer on all sorts of financial crimes related to his businesses and loans. But he pled guilty to campaign finance violations for payments that in the past would have been ruled on as personal expenses. Now they’ve also gotten him to cop to lying about when he killed the perfectly legal Russia tower project, only it appears that Trump’s lawyers ducked that perjury trap in the written questions.

George Papadopoulos— The former member of Trump’s foreign policy advisory panel was forced to plead to lying about the timing of his contacts. The goal was to legitimize the start of the investigation around him when all he did was pass on a surmise or a tip he received. Was the time and expense worth a 14-day sentence? Of course not. They had all the records they needed to figure out who he contacted when.

Jerome Corsi – The best-selling author was threatened with pleading to lying about his contacts with his friend and former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone. There was nothing illegal about his comments or actions, and he is a journalist, though obviously, the general rules of journalism don’t apply to conservatives like him.

Roger Stone -- The former Trump campaign adviser sent out a tweet suggesting Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta was next, and an email to Corsi asking him to get the rest of the emails. He was obviously trying to find out what was going on with these emails, and that’s not illegal in any way.

Paul Manafort – The former Trump presidential campaign chairman’s old tax and reporting cases going far back were dusted off to get him under the thumb of the prosecutor. It was revealed that he continued a joint defense agreement with the president and suddenly the prosecutor is saying he lied about his business dealings. It’s all about vengeance on him for failing to give them what they want and to make Trump look bad.

Sure, there are some anonymous Russians who will never be tried to add on top of this record. But it’s clear now Mueller is no longer looking for crimes in the presidential race of 2016. He is simply creating a narrative to delegitimize the president and to string together his words to Comey with the Flynn indictment, Cohen with Stormy Daniels payment, Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi with ties to Julian Assange, and now Cohen with underplaying Russia connections. And let’s not forget the Trump Tower meeting with the attorney who was also conveniently working with Fusion GPS.

There’s no doubt that the outline of Mueller’s report was written a long time ago and is being filled in. For those who thought Mueller would deliver a balanced and thoughtful report, these latest actions suggest that instead, we are seeing an all-out attack on the president and the presidency the likes of which we have never seen.

Get ready for the fight of the century coming soon and it will be about everything except collusion with the Russian government.

Mark Penn is managing director of the Stagwell Group. He was chief strategist on Bill Clinton’s 1996 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, and Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mar...-on-russia-you-wont-believe-whats-coming-next

But were there banjos?

 

[Lanny]

Mark Penn: The Mueller investigation has come up empty on Russia -- You won’t believe what's coming next

By Mark Penn | Fox News
The pattern and purpose of Mueller’s investigation and the endgame is becoming clear, and yes, it’s clearly get the president at all costs. The team Mueller hired really foretold the story — Andrew Weissmann as the stop-at-nothing pit bull and a group of Democratic-leaning lawyers, including some who have represented the Clintons, had the obstruction of justice charge ready to go on day one.

Trump’s first team of lawyers with their “don’t worry and cooperate” strategy set the president back, and let the whole thing spiral out of control.

The investigation, I believe, has come up truly empty on its central charge related to the president — collusion with the Russian government. They are now trying to find someone, anyone who had any contact with Julian Assange with the aim of calling that collusion-lite.

But mostly what Mueller’s team is doing is bludgeoning witnesses on unrelated charges to piece together a case against the president. They are shaping that case through the indictments -- and threats of indictments -- that are being used to get guilty pleas to make the president seem like an obstructor or co-conspirator. They are literally creating the crimes.

Let’s review what Mueller and his team are doing:

Michael Flynn — They discovered unreported lobbying by Trump's former National Security Adviser and leveraged that to get him to plead guilty to lying to the FBI. Why? So that they can claim Trump’s comment to James Comey about letting him go was obstruction of justice. Yet no other prosecutor would ever have brought this charge.

Michael Cohen — They got Trump’s former lawyer on all sorts of financial crimes related to his businesses and loans. But he pled guilty to campaign finance violations for payments that in the past would have been ruled on as personal expenses. Now they’ve also gotten him to cop to lying about when he killed the perfectly legal Russia tower project, only it appears that Trump’s lawyers ducked that perjury trap in the written questions.

George Papadopoulos— The former member of Trump’s foreign policy advisory panel was forced to plead to lying about the timing of his contacts. The goal was to legitimize the start of the investigation around him when all he did was pass on a surmise or a tip he received. Was the time and expense worth a 14-day sentence? Of course not. They had all the records they needed to figure out who he contacted when.

Jerome Corsi – The best-selling author was threatened with pleading to lying about his contacts with his friend and former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone. There was nothing illegal about his comments or actions, and he is a journalist, though obviously, the general rules of journalism don’t apply to conservatives like him.

Roger Stone -- The former Trump campaign adviser sent out a tweet suggesting Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta was next, and an email to Corsi asking him to get the rest of the emails. He was obviously trying to find out what was going on with these emails, and that’s not illegal in any way.

Paul Manafort – The former Trump presidential campaign chairman’s old tax and reporting cases going far back were dusted off to get him under the thumb of the prosecutor. It was revealed that he continued a joint defense agreement with the president and suddenly the prosecutor is saying he lied about his business dealings. It’s all about vengeance on him for failing to give them what they want and to make Trump look bad.

Sure, there are some anonymous Russians who will never be tried to add on top of this record. But it’s clear now Mueller is no longer looking for crimes in the presidential race of 2016. He is simply creating a narrative to delegitimize the president and to string together his words to Comey with the Flynn indictment, Cohen with Stormy Daniels payment, Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi with ties to Julian Assange, and now Cohen with underplaying Russia connections. And let’s not forget the Trump Tower meeting with the attorney who was also conveniently working with Fusion GPS.

There’s no doubt that the outline of Mueller’s report was written a long time ago and is being filled in. For those who thought Mueller would deliver a balanced and thoughtful report, these latest actions suggest that instead, we are seeing an all-out attack on the president and the presidency the likes of which we have never seen.

Get ready for the fight of the century coming soon and it will be about everything except collusion with the Russian government.

Mark Penn is managing director of the Stagwell Group. He was chief strategist on Bill Clinton’s 1996 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, and Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mar...-on-russia-you-wont-believe-whats-coming-next

I'd swear I'd seen felony convictions as a result of his investigation. I believe it's standard procedure to get someone on an unrelated crime in order to flip him into a helpful witness the the main criminal activity.

Anyhow, as a result of your investigation you discover a felony crime are you suggesting it be ignored? I'm not buying that.

 

[julius]

I'd swear I'd seen felony convictions as a result of his investigation. I believe it's standard procedure to get someone on an unrelated crime in order to flip him into a helpful witness the the main criminal activity.

Anyhow, as a result of your investigation you discover a felony crime are you suggesting it be ignored? I'm not buying that.

I remember the Ken Starr investigation starting off with one thing, and totally ending up with another. And while the "left" responded that it shouldn't have been done in the first place, it did exactly what you are describing (in a way).

Honestly tho, I wish the only thing Trump did was get a blow job from an intern.

 

[MARIS61]

Conservative writer Corsi files criminal complaint against Mueller, alleges bid to seek false testimony

By Judson Berger, Alex Pappas | Fox News
Corsi files "criminal complaint' against Mueller
Conservative author Jerome Corsi on Monday filed a “criminal and ethics complaint” against Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, accusing investigators of trying to bully him into giving “false testimony” against President Trump.

The complaint, which Corsi had threatened for days, is the latest escalation between Mueller’s team and its investigation targets.

The 78-page document, asserting the existence of a “slow-motion coup against the president,” was filed to a range of top law enforcement officials including Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, D.C.’s U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu and the Bar Disciplinary Counsel.

“Dr. Corsi has been criminally threatened and coerced to tell a lie and call it the truth,” the complaint states.

Corsi, who wrote the anti-President Obama book "The Obama Nation" and is connected with political operative Roger Stone, has claimed for the past week that he was being improperly pressured by Mueller’s team to strike a plea deal which he now says he won’t sign.

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According to Corsi’s complaint, they wanted him to demonstrate that he acted as a liaison between Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on one side and the Trump campaign on the other, regarding the release of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee.

The complaint states that Mueller’s office is now “knowingly and deceitfully threatening to charge Dr. Corsi with an alleged false statement,” unless he gives them “false testimony” against Trump and others.

The purported threat of a false statement charge, according to the complaint, pertains to a July 2016 email from Stone asking him to “get to” Assange and get the pending emails.

Corsi’s complaint says he was unable to initially give “accurate” testimony on that point, until he could reload emails on his laptop. The complaint says he later amended his answers. In an interview last week with Fox News’ "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Corsi said Mueller’s team “was happy” with his answers until he couldn’t “give them what they wanted.”

READ: JEROME CORSI’S COMPLAINT AGAINST SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER

As part of the complaint, Corsi’s legal team included a draft court filing from Mueller’s team to be used for Corsi to plead guilty to making false statements.

That document includes an Aug. 2, 2016 email between Corsi and Stone, where Corsi references Assange and the forthcoming release of hacked emails.

“Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps,” Corsi wrote to Stone, about 10 weeks before Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were released.

In the complaint on Monday, Corsi’s lawyers denied that Corsi had inside knowledge and was colluding with Assange. Instead, they make the argument Corsi “logically concluded” more emails would be released.

“Employing his professional skills and considerable experience as an analyst and investigative journalist, Dr. Corsi logically concluded that WikiLeaks would release Podesta’s emails soon in a second round ‘data dump’ from the same group of DNC emails stolen on July 5, 2016,” the complaint reads.

Corsi, the onetime Washington bureau chief of the right-wing website Infowars, told host Tucker Carlson last week that he has had "no contact with Julian Assange whatsoever."

The complaint is the latest sign of turbulence between Mueller’s team and investigation targets and witnesses. The team recently accused ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of breaching his plea deal by lying to investigators.

Corsi is represented in his complaint by Larry Klayman, a conservative lawyer who founded Judicial Watch and is known for filing lawsuits against former President Bill Clinton. In the complaint, Klayman argues that the activities of Corsi, as an "investigative journalist," are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/co...t-mueller-alleges-bid-to-seek-false-testimony

 

[MARIS61]

Trump slams Cohen plea deal, calls for ‘full and complete sentence’

By Brooke Singman | Fox News
President Trump turned up the heat Monday on his former personal attorney over his newly struck plea deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, calling for Michael Cohen to “serve a full and complete sentence” over fraud and other alleged crimes.

“’Michael Cohen asks judge for no Prison Time.’ You mean he can do all of the TERRIBLE, unrelated to Trump, things having to do with fraud, big loans, Taxis, etc., and not serve a long prison term?” Trump tweeted, seemingly quoting news coverage of the Cohen deal.

“He makes up stories to get a GREAT & ALREADY reduced deal for himself, and get his wife and father-in-law (who has the money?) off Scott Free. He lied for this outcome and should, in my opinion, serve a full and complete sentence,” he continued.

The president’s tweet comes after Cohen’s attorneys asked a federal judge to not sentence him to prison, citing his cooperation with the special counsel’s office.

Cohen's attorneys requested that based on "the cooperation Michael has provided, his commitment to continue to cooperate, and all of the remaining sentencing factors to be considered" under U.S. code, the judge "impose a sentence of time-served and restitution to the IRS."

The longtime Trump fixer had already pleaded guilty in August to fraud, tax evasion and other crimes in connection with a separate federal case. Last week, he pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress regarding an abandoned Trump real estate deal in Russia as part of Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump associates during the 2016 election.

In court last week, Cohen admitted to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee during the summer of 2017 about the Trump Organization’s plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Cohen admitted to giving a false description to the committee in stating that discussions of the tower stopped in January 2016 -- prior to the first primary in the presidential election. Cohen admitted that the discussions about the real estate deal continued through June 2016.

Trump denied any wrongdoing and slammed Cohen as a liar in response.

The plea marked the first time Mueller’s team charged Cohen as part of its investigation. The Cohen plea deal involves cooperation with Mueller’s team. One report said Cohen has given 70 hours of interviews to the special counsel.

The maximum sentence Cohen faces for this charge is five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000.

But Cohen has also been under criminal investigation as part of a grand jury probe into his personal business dealings, including his tax business and bank fraud, since April, when the FBI raided his home, office, and hotel room to seize a collection of documents as part of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York’s criminal probe.

In August, Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of tax evasion, one count of making false statements to a financial institution, one count of willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution, and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution. The excessive campaign contribution was regarding the $130,000 payment made to porn star Stormy Daniels in the weeks leading up to the 2016 presidential election in exchange for her silence about an alleged one-time sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.

Trump denied in April that he knew anything about Cohen’s payments to Daniels, though the explanations from the president and his attorney Rudy Giuliani have shifted several times.

Cohen could have received up to 65 years in prison if convicted of all charges. However, as part of his plea deal, Cohen agreed not to challenge any sentence between 46 and 63 months. The deal made in August did not involve a cooperation agreement with federal prosecutors. Cohen, as part of that criminal investigation, is slated to be sentenced in New York City federal court on Dec. 12.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slams-cohen-plea-deal-calls-for-full-and-complete-sentence

 

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Emails about WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange being 'mischaracterized': Roger Stone

• By Ali Dukakis

President Donald Trump's longtime ally, veteran political operative Roger Stone, said his emails about WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange during the 2016 presidential election, which it appears special counsel Robert Mueller may be be zeroing in on, are being “mischaracterized.”

Mueller’s increased focus on Stone recently gained attention when a series of email exchanges between Stone and his former associate, Jerome Corsi -- a fellow Trump loyalist whom Stone hired to conduct research in advance of the election -- emerged last week. In an interview with ABC News on Monday, Corsi provided ABC News with copies of a plea agreement he said was drafted by Mueller’s prosecutors, which cites three emails involving Stone about getting in touch with Assange.

“Let's go back to those emails, because I think they're mischaracterized and they need some context,” Stone told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos on "This Week" Sunday after Stephanopoulos read the emails. “The same day I got an email that was forwarded to me from James Rosen of Fox News saying that he had had a tip that the WikiLeaks disclosures pertained to the Clinton Foundation. Yes, I contacted Jerry Corsi because, at some point, Ted Malloch, who I had met once, had dropped Assange's name. And like every politico in America, like every political reporter, I was interested in knowing what exactly [Wikileaks] had.”

Ted Malloch is a London-based conservative author.

“But there was no response to that,” Stone added.

On Monday, Corsi told ABC News that he decided to reject a plea deal he said was offered to him by Mueller.

Two emails written by Stone to Corsi, which are included in what appears to be the Mueller draft statement of offense provided to ABC News by Corsi, show that Stone instructed Corsi to contact the controversial WikiLeaks founder, about the imminent release of information meant to damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president.

A third email suggests that Corsi -- a former Infowars bureau chief known for promulgating political smear campaigns -- was successful in establishing a line of communication to Assange and later informed Stone of the pending release of information the special counsel has alleged was provided to WikiLeaks by a hacker connected to Russian military intelligence.

In the email on Aug. 2, 2016, Corsi wrote to Stone, “Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I'm back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging.”

Later in the email, Corsi writes, “Time to let more than Podesta to be exposed as in bed w enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC. That appears to be the game hackers are now about.”

On "This Week", Stone said, “I think [the emails] have been mischaracterized. Saying that these dumps are coming turns out to be completely incorrect. They don't come in early August as predicted by Mr. Corsi.

“And there's no reference in that email to John Podesta's emails either. It simply says Podesta will be exposed to the American people, whatever that means.”

Stone has been under scrutiny from the special counsel in part because of statements he made in Aug. 2016, which critics allege showed he knew that WikiLeaks was going to leak damaging information on Clinton in advance.

“Trust me, it will soon (sic) the Podesta's time in the barrel. #CrookedHillary,” Stone tweeted on Aug. 21, 2016. The tweet has since been deleted.

Seven weeks later, WikiLeaks released a cache of Clinton campaign chairman Podesta's private emails. In a report released in Jan. 2017, the U.S. intelligence community concluded “with high confidence” that the information was provided to WikiLeaks by a hacker with ties to Russian military intelligence.

Asked by Stephanopoulos if he still maintained that he never spoke to Assange, never contacted WikiLeaks and never spoke to any of that directly to Trump, Stone said, “That is absolutely correct. I had no contact with Assange -- Assange himself has said Roger Stone is a brilliant spin master, we have had no communication with him whatsoever.”

ABC News reported this week that among the list of questions Mueller submitted to the president included a query about Stone’s contacts with Assange.

“And if Robert Mueller develops evidence, says that he can show that you did talk to WikiLeaks, did communicate with WikiLeaks and then did communicate with President Trump?” Stephanopolous asked.

Stone replied, “That's all speculation, George. There is no such evidence.”

More than a dozen individuals, many of whom have appeared before the grand jury impaneled by Mueller’s team, have told ABC News they were asked about Stone’s activities during the 2016 election and what, if any, contact he may have had with Assange through an intermediary, which Stone has denied to ABC News many times.

Stone told ABC News he has yet to have contact with the special counsel’s office himself.

“Doesn't that suggest to you that you actually are a target?” Stephanopoulos asked. “Usually they speak to the witnesses first?”

Stone replied, “It suggests nothing at all.”

“Again, where is the crime? I engaged in politics. My purpose was to take a tip, which I thought to be solid, and then, after that, to follow the WikiLeaks Twitter feed and set a Google News alert for Julian Assange and use Twitter to hype as much voter and media attention to the disclosures when they came as politics.”

When asked about his past loyalty pledges to the president, Stone said, “There’s no circumstance under which I would testify against the president, because I’d have to bear false witness against him. I’d have to make things up and I’m not going to do that.”

And on whether or not he expects Trump to pardon him if he was indicted or convicted in the probe, Stone told ABC News, “I’ve had no discussion regarding a pardon."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ema...ischaracterized-roger-stone/story?id=59547161

 

[julius]

I bet OJ Simpson also has a theory about how his role in the murder of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman has been miss-characterized too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Conservative writer Corsi files criminal complaint against Mueller, alleges bid to seek false testimony

By Judson Berger, Alex Pappas | Fox News
Corsi files "criminal complaint' against Mueller
Conservative author Jerome Corsi on Monday filed a “criminal and ethics complaint” against Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, accusing investigators of trying to bully him into giving “false testimony” against President Trump.

The complaint, which Corsi had threatened for days, is the latest escalation between Mueller’s team and its investigation targets.

The 78-page document, asserting the existence of a “slow-motion coup against the president,” was filed to a range of top law enforcement officials including Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, D.C.’s U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu and the Bar Disciplinary Counsel.

“Dr. Corsi has been criminally threatened and coerced to tell a lie and call it the truth,” the complaint states.

Corsi, who wrote the anti-President Obama book "The Obama Nation" and is connected with political operative Roger Stone, has claimed for the past week that he was being improperly pressured by Mueller’s team to strike a plea deal which he now says he won’t sign.

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According to Corsi’s complaint, they wanted him to demonstrate that he acted as a liaison between Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on one side and the Trump campaign on the other, regarding the release of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee.

The complaint states that Mueller’s office is now “knowingly and deceitfully threatening to charge Dr. Corsi with an alleged false statement,” unless he gives them “false testimony” against Trump and others.

The purported threat of a false statement charge, according to the complaint, pertains to a July 2016 email from Stone asking him to “get to” Assange and get the pending emails.

Corsi’s complaint says he was unable to initially give “accurate” testimony on that point, until he could reload emails on his laptop. The complaint says he later amended his answers. In an interview last week with Fox News’ "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Corsi said Mueller’s team “was happy” with his answers until he couldn’t “give them what they wanted.”

READ: JEROME CORSI’S COMPLAINT AGAINST SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER

As part of the complaint, Corsi’s legal team included a draft court filing from Mueller’s team to be used for Corsi to plead guilty to making false statements.

That document includes an Aug. 2, 2016 email between Corsi and Stone, where Corsi references Assange and the forthcoming release of hacked emails.

“Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps,” Corsi wrote to Stone, about 10 weeks before Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were released.

In the complaint on Monday, Corsi’s lawyers denied that Corsi had inside knowledge and was colluding with Assange. Instead, they make the argument Corsi “logically concluded” more emails would be released.

“Employing his professional skills and considerable experience as an analyst and investigative journalist, Dr. Corsi logically concluded that WikiLeaks would release Podesta’s emails soon in a second round ‘data dump’ from the same group of DNC emails stolen on July 5, 2016,” the complaint reads.

Corsi, the onetime Washington bureau chief of the right-wing website Infowars, told host Tucker Carlson last week that he has had "no contact with Julian Assange whatsoever."

The complaint is the latest sign of turbulence between Mueller’s team and investigation targets and witnesses. The team recently accused ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of breaching his plea deal by lying to investigators.

Corsi is represented in his complaint by Larry Klayman, a conservative lawyer who founded Judicial Watch and is known for filing lawsuits against former President Bill Clinton. In the complaint, Klayman argues that the activities of Corsi, as an "investigative journalist," are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/co...t-mueller-alleges-bid-to-seek-false-testimony

 

[Lanny]

Conservative writer Corsi files criminal complaint against Mueller, alleges bid to seek false testimony

By Judson Berger, Alex Pappas | Fox News
Corsi files "criminal complaint' against Mueller
Conservative author Jerome Corsi on Monday filed a “criminal and ethics complaint” against Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, accusing investigators of trying to bully him into giving “false testimony” against President Trump.

The complaint, which Corsi had threatened for days, is the latest escalation between Mueller’s team and its investigation targets.

The 78-page document, asserting the existence of a “slow-motion coup against the president,” was filed to a range of top law enforcement officials including Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, D.C.’s U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu and the Bar Disciplinary Counsel.

“Dr. Corsi has been criminally threatened and coerced to tell a lie and call it the truth,” the complaint states.

Corsi, who wrote the anti-President Obama book "The Obama Nation" and is connected with political operative Roger Stone, has claimed for the past week that he was being improperly pressured by Mueller’s team to strike a plea deal which he now says he won’t sign.

Video
According to Corsi’s complaint, they wanted him to demonstrate that he acted as a liaison between Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on one side and the Trump campaign on the other, regarding the release of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee.

The complaint states that Mueller’s office is now “knowingly and deceitfully threatening to charge Dr. Corsi with an alleged false statement,” unless he gives them “false testimony” against Trump and others.

The purported threat of a false statement charge, according to the complaint, pertains to a July 2016 email from Stone asking him to “get to” Assange and get the pending emails.

Corsi’s complaint says he was unable to initially give “accurate” testimony on that point, until he could reload emails on his laptop. The complaint says he later amended his answers. In an interview last week with Fox News’ "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Corsi said Mueller’s team “was happy” with his answers until he couldn’t “give them what they wanted.”

READ: JEROME CORSI’S COMPLAINT AGAINST SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER

As part of the complaint, Corsi’s legal team included a draft court filing from Mueller’s team to be used for Corsi to plead guilty to making false statements.

That document includes an Aug. 2, 2016 email between Corsi and Stone, where Corsi references Assange and the forthcoming release of hacked emails.

“Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps,” Corsi wrote to Stone, about 10 weeks before Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were released.

In the complaint on Monday, Corsi’s lawyers denied that Corsi had inside knowledge and was colluding with Assange. Instead, they make the argument Corsi “logically concluded” more emails would be released.

“Employing his professional skills and considerable experience as an analyst and investigative journalist, Dr. Corsi logically concluded that WikiLeaks would release Podesta’s emails soon in a second round ‘data dump’ from the same group of DNC emails stolen on July 5, 2016,” the complaint reads.

Corsi, the onetime Washington bureau chief of the right-wing website Infowars, told host Tucker Carlson last week that he has had "no contact with Julian Assange whatsoever."

The complaint is the latest sign of turbulence between Mueller’s team and investigation targets and witnesses. The team recently accused ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of breaching his plea deal by lying to investigators.

Corsi is represented in his complaint by Larry Klayman, a conservative lawyer who founded Judicial Watch and is known for filing lawsuits against former President Bill Clinton. In the complaint, Klayman argues that the activities of Corsi, as an "investigative journalist," are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/co...t-mueller-alleges-bid-to-seek-false-testimony

Yawn, let me know when something comes of this.

 

[Lanny]

Emails about WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange being 'mischaracterized': Roger Stone

• By Ali Dukakis

President Donald Trump's longtime ally, veteran political operative Roger Stone, said his emails about WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange during the 2016 presidential election, which it appears special counsel Robert Mueller may be be zeroing in on, are being “mischaracterized.”

Mueller’s increased focus on Stone recently gained attention when a series of email exchanges between Stone and his former associate, Jerome Corsi -- a fellow Trump loyalist whom Stone hired to conduct research in advance of the election -- emerged last week. In an interview with ABC News on Monday, Corsi provided ABC News with copies of a plea agreement he said was drafted by Mueller’s prosecutors, which cites three emails involving Stone about getting in touch with Assange.

“Let's go back to those emails, because I think they're mischaracterized and they need some context,” Stone told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos on "This Week" Sunday after Stephanopoulos read the emails. “The same day I got an email that was forwarded to me from James Rosen of Fox News saying that he had had a tip that the WikiLeaks disclosures pertained to the Clinton Foundation. Yes, I contacted Jerry Corsi because, at some point, Ted Malloch, who I had met once, had dropped Assange's name. And like every politico in America, like every political reporter, I was interested in knowing what exactly [Wikileaks] had.”

Ted Malloch is a London-based conservative author.

“But there was no response to that,” Stone added.

On Monday, Corsi told ABC News that he decided to reject a plea deal he said was offered to him by Mueller.

Two emails written by Stone to Corsi, which are included in what appears to be the Mueller draft statement of offense provided to ABC News by Corsi, show that Stone instructed Corsi to contact the controversial WikiLeaks founder, about the imminent release of information meant to damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president.

A third email suggests that Corsi -- a former Infowars bureau chief known for promulgating political smear campaigns -- was successful in establishing a line of communication to Assange and later informed Stone of the pending release of information the special counsel has alleged was provided to WikiLeaks by a hacker connected to Russian military intelligence.

In the email on Aug. 2, 2016, Corsi wrote to Stone, “Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I'm back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging.”

Later in the email, Corsi writes, “Time to let more than Podesta to be exposed as in bed w enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC. That appears to be the game hackers are now about.”

On "This Week", Stone said, “I think [the emails] have been mischaracterized. Saying that these dumps are coming turns out to be completely incorrect. They don't come in early August as predicted by Mr. Corsi.

“And there's no reference in that email to John Podesta's emails either. It simply says Podesta will be exposed to the American people, whatever that means.”

Stone has been under scrutiny from the special counsel in part because of statements he made in Aug. 2016, which critics allege showed he knew that WikiLeaks was going to leak damaging information on Clinton in advance.

“Trust me, it will soon (sic) the Podesta's time in the barrel. #CrookedHillary,” Stone tweeted on Aug. 21, 2016. The tweet has since been deleted.

Seven weeks later, WikiLeaks released a cache of Clinton campaign chairman Podesta's private emails. In a report released in Jan. 2017, the U.S. intelligence community concluded “with high confidence” that the information was provided to WikiLeaks by a hacker with ties to Russian military intelligence.

Asked by Stephanopoulos if he still maintained that he never spoke to Assange, never contacted WikiLeaks and never spoke to any of that directly to Trump, Stone said, “That is absolutely correct. I had no contact with Assange -- Assange himself has said Roger Stone is a brilliant spin master, we have had no communication with him whatsoever.”

ABC News reported this week that among the list of questions Mueller submitted to the president included a query about Stone’s contacts with Assange.

“And if Robert Mueller develops evidence, says that he can show that you did talk to WikiLeaks, did communicate with WikiLeaks and then did communicate with President Trump?” Stephanopolous asked.

Stone replied, “That's all speculation, George. There is no such evidence.”

More than a dozen individuals, many of whom have appeared before the grand jury impaneled by Mueller’s team, have told ABC News they were asked about Stone’s activities during the 2016 election and what, if any, contact he may have had with Assange through an intermediary, which Stone has denied to ABC News many times.

Stone told ABC News he has yet to have contact with the special counsel’s office himself.

“Doesn't that suggest to you that you actually are a target?” Stephanopoulos asked. “Usually they speak to the witnesses first?”

Stone replied, “It suggests nothing at all.”

“Again, where is the crime? I engaged in politics. My purpose was to take a tip, which I thought to be solid, and then, after that, to follow the WikiLeaks Twitter feed and set a Google News alert for Julian Assange and use Twitter to hype as much voter and media attention to the disclosures when they came as politics.”

When asked about his past loyalty pledges to the president, Stone said, “There’s no circumstance under which I would testify against the president, because I’d have to bear false witness against him. I’d have to make things up and I’m not going to do that.”

And on whether or not he expects Trump to pardon him if he was indicted or convicted in the probe, Stone told ABC News, “I’ve had no discussion regarding a pardon."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ema...ischaracterized-roger-stone/story?id=59547161

1. Who is Ali Dukakis?
2. Stone is the biggest liar who ever worked for Trump, and that's saying something.

 

[MARIS61]

 

[Lanny]

Wake me up when you have something substantial to say.

 

[MARIS61]