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Mistakes happen all the time in life. His 35 to 40% base won't be enough to carry him next time if he lasts that long.
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Mistakes happen all the time in life. His 35 to 40% base won't be enough to carry him next time if he lasts that long.
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You contradict yourself. You can't have it both ways.
You say there's no truth owed to the police...
So they should lie... To police...
But then you say there's no crime....
So... Why would they need to lie? (Care to answer this?)
And... We should lie to the police?
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It's even less than that now.
16% of Republicans are against re-election.
59% of Independents are against re-election.
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Seriously?
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mu...mp-allies-anger-toward-probe-risks-backfiring
Mueller hardball fuels Trump allies’ anger toward probe, risks backfiring
By Brooke Singman | Fox News
Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s tough tactics with investigation targets and witnesses are fueling complaints about the probe from President Trump and his allies at a critical stage, as key cooperation efforts seem to break down.
Just this week, conservative author Jerome Corsi balked at a plea deal after complaining the Mueller team wanted him to admit to lying (which he claims he didn't do) only after he “couldn’t give them what they wanted.” He tweeted Wednesday he now plans to pursue a complaint against Mueller's team.
Further, Mueller's team has accused ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of violating his plea deal by lying to investigators, amid reports his cooperation agreement was not panning out how prosecutors had hoped.
More information also has come to light about the nature of those Mueller-Manafort interactions, as it emerged Manafort's legal team has been briefing Trump's team about their discussions. The briefings reportedly fueled tensions with Mueller's investigators, though it was already known that the president's and Manafort's legal teams have a joint defense agreement, meaning they share information.
But through these briefings, Trump's team learned about Mueller's focused line of questioning.
Specifically, top prosecutor Andrew Weissmann has been pumping Manafort for information about the president, with a focus on the highly scrutinized meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, and whether Trump knew about it in advance.
Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said the president is very upset with how Manafort has been treated, saying they keep hammering him with the same questions apparently seeking different answers.
Manafort already was convicted on multiple counts of financial fraud over the summer in connection with work he completed in Ukraine as a political consultant. A subsequent deal in a related case was seen as an opening for Mueller's prosecutors to get new information, but that possibility seems to be diminishing.
In a court filing on Monday, Mueller, Weissmann and several other investigators accused Manafort of violating his plea deal, which was agreed upon in September.
“After signing the plea agreement, Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement,” Mueller, Weissmann, Jeannie Rhee and Greg Andres wrote in a court filing Monday.
But Manafort’s attorneys say he believes he has provided “truthful information” and “does not agree with the government’s characterization or that he has breached the agreement.”
James Trusty, a former federal prosecutor and senior Justice Department official, noted a judge will ultimately decide whether Manafort violated his plea deal.
“The breach of a plea agreement is a spectacularly ugly moment for everyone involved,” Trusty, now a white-collar attorney at Ifrah Law, told Fox News. “If you are found by the judge by a preponderance of evidence to have breached the agreement, you lose every good thing in it, but you’re stuck with the bad.”
He added: “This is going to see daylight and be fully litigated, and then we can make an informed judgment whether Mueller’s team is asking him the same questions over and over, or pursuing a real investigation and being sidetracked by a liar.”
Regardless of how that dispute resolves, Mueller's tactics run the risk of shutting down witnesses like Corsi.
In Trump World, anger and resentment toward the probe into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates in the 2016 election is only building, as seen in the president's incendiary tweet-storm on Tuesday saying the probe is "ruining lives." He added Wednesday, “While the disgusting Fake News is doing everything within their power not to report it that way, at least 3 major players are intimating that the Angry Mueller Gang of Dems is viciously telling witnesses to lie about facts & they will get relief. This is our Joseph McCarthy Era!”
Former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, a Trump ally, called Weissman “one of the most unethical prosecutors ever to be in the Justice Department.”
Weissmann has overseen controversial prosecutions in the past that ultimately resulted in dismissed convictions and allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.
Meanwhile, Corsi plans to reject a potential deal with Mueller involving a perjury plea. The crucial piece of information was that he purportedly notified Trump associate Roger Stone in August 2016 that WikiLeaks intended to release information damaging to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
But Corsi complained he was cornered by Mueller, blasting the probe in an interview with Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” He said he did not knowingly give prosecutors false information, claiming he forgot about emails shown to him during his first interview, noting they were among 60,000 contained on a laptop he provided to the special counsel’s office.
“The special counsel came in … and they actually sent me home and gave me an opportunity to review the emails,” Corsi said Tuesday. “When I came back, I amended the testimony to say that I now remember the email. The special counsel was happy with that until I couldn’t give them what they wanted, which was a connection that I had with [Julian] Assange—that they assumed I had, which I didn’t have.”
He added: “Now suddenly, they forgot they allowed me to amend my testimony and they’re going back to the mistake I made when I forgot the email.”
Corsi described the investigation as “a political witch hunt,” echoing the president’s long-standing sentiment of the probe, further describing his interviews with investigators as a “memory test.”
“They ask you a question, they have material they won’t show you, you’ve forgotten about it, and they say, ‘You just lied because this email you forgot about in 2016 proves your current memory is wrong,” Corsi said. “If you can’t give them what they’re looking for to fill their narrative, they blow you up and charge you with a crime.”
Mueller’s team has secured several guilty pleas related to making false statements to federal investigators as part of the probe.
But Trusty told Fox News that “does not suggest a particularly successful investigation.”
“It’s heavy on false statement charges, and that doesn’t suggest that it’s moving in the right direction for the prosecution,” Trusty said. “It doesn’t suggest to me that they’re making a lot of headway on the substance of their investigation which is Russian collusion.”
He added: “As an ex-prosecutor, false statements are very distant second place.”
Trusty also said that during the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server, investigators and former FBI Director James Comey “swore off ever pursuing false statements charges,” quoting a recent Justice Department inspector general report.
“Are there two sets of rules?” Trusty said. “It’s a fair question that someone in the FBI or Justice Department ought to answer at some point.”
DiGenova, who has informally advised the president throughout the probe, suggested that Mueller was running a “parallel Justice Department.”
“These threats to Dr. Corsi and to Paul Manafort are a manifestation of a fatally flawed constitutionally corrupt investigation,” diGenova said. He added: “If you’re a Democrat, you get off scot-free, with immunity, and are able to destroy evidence and ignore subpoenas. If you’re a Republican, you’re going to jail no matter what.”
Despite the drama with witnesses, speculation is widespread that Mueller has much more information than prior reports indicate and could be preparing to strike with more indictments.
The president submitted his written answers to Mueller’s questions in the probe last week, marking a major milestone in the investigation. His attorneys said that despite their serious issues with the probe, the president has provided “unprecedented cooperation.”
Mueller hardball fuels Trump allies’ anger toward probe, risks backfiring
By Brooke Singman | Fox News
Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s tough tactics with investigation targets and witnesses are fueling complaints about the probe from President Trump and his allies at a critical stage, as key cooperation efforts seem to break down.
Just this week, conservative author Jerome Corsi balked at a plea deal after complaining the Mueller team wanted him to admit to lying (which he claims he didn't do) only after he “couldn’t give them what they wanted.” He tweeted Wednesday he now plans to pursue a complaint against Mueller's team.
Further, Mueller's team has accused ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of violating his plea deal by lying to investigators, amid reports his cooperation agreement was not panning out how prosecutors had hoped.
More information also has come to light about the nature of those Mueller-Manafort interactions, as it emerged Manafort's legal team has been briefing Trump's team about their discussions. The briefings reportedly fueled tensions with Mueller's investigators, though it was already known that the president's and Manafort's legal teams have a joint defense agreement, meaning they share information.
But through these briefings, Trump's team learned about Mueller's focused line of questioning.
Specifically, top prosecutor Andrew Weissmann has been pumping Manafort for information about the president, with a focus on the highly scrutinized meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, and whether Trump knew about it in advance.
Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said the president is very upset with how Manafort has been treated, saying they keep hammering him with the same questions apparently seeking different answers.
Manafort already was convicted on multiple counts of financial fraud over the summer in connection with work he completed in Ukraine as a political consultant. A subsequent deal in a related case was seen as an opening for Mueller's prosecutors to get new information, but that possibility seems to be diminishing.
In a court filing on Monday, Mueller, Weissmann and several other investigators accused Manafort of violating his plea deal, which was agreed upon in September.
“After signing the plea agreement, Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement,” Mueller, Weissmann, Jeannie Rhee and Greg Andres wrote in a court filing Monday.
But Manafort’s attorneys say he believes he has provided “truthful information” and “does not agree with the government’s characterization or that he has breached the agreement.”
James Trusty, a former federal prosecutor and senior Justice Department official, noted a judge will ultimately decide whether Manafort violated his plea deal.
“The breach of a plea agreement is a spectacularly ugly moment for everyone involved,” Trusty, now a white-collar attorney at Ifrah Law, told Fox News. “If you are found by the judge by a preponderance of evidence to have breached the agreement, you lose every good thing in it, but you’re stuck with the bad.”
He added: “This is going to see daylight and be fully litigated, and then we can make an informed judgment whether Mueller’s team is asking him the same questions over and over, or pursuing a real investigation and being sidetracked by a liar.”
Regardless of how that dispute resolves, Mueller's tactics run the risk of shutting down witnesses like Corsi.
In Trump World, anger and resentment toward the probe into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates in the 2016 election is only building, as seen in the president's incendiary tweet-storm on Tuesday saying the probe is "ruining lives." He added Wednesday, “While the disgusting Fake News is doing everything within their power not to report it that way, at least 3 major players are intimating that the Angry Mueller Gang of Dems is viciously telling witnesses to lie about facts & they will get relief. This is our Joseph McCarthy Era!”
Former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, a Trump ally, called Weissman “one of the most unethical prosecutors ever to be in the Justice Department.”
Weissmann has overseen controversial prosecutions in the past that ultimately resulted in dismissed convictions and allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.
Meanwhile, Corsi plans to reject a potential deal with Mueller involving a perjury plea. The crucial piece of information was that he purportedly notified Trump associate Roger Stone in August 2016 that WikiLeaks intended to release information damaging to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
But Corsi complained he was cornered by Mueller, blasting the probe in an interview with Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” He said he did not knowingly give prosecutors false information, claiming he forgot about emails shown to him during his first interview, noting they were among 60,000 contained on a laptop he provided to the special counsel’s office.
“The special counsel came in … and they actually sent me home and gave me an opportunity to review the emails,” Corsi said Tuesday. “When I came back, I amended the testimony to say that I now remember the email. The special counsel was happy with that until I couldn’t give them what they wanted, which was a connection that I had with [Julian] Assange—that they assumed I had, which I didn’t have.”
He added: “Now suddenly, they forgot they allowed me to amend my testimony and they’re going back to the mistake I made when I forgot the email.”
Corsi described the investigation as “a political witch hunt,” echoing the president’s long-standing sentiment of the probe, further describing his interviews with investigators as a “memory test.”
“They ask you a question, they have material they won’t show you, you’ve forgotten about it, and they say, ‘You just lied because this email you forgot about in 2016 proves your current memory is wrong,” Corsi said. “If you can’t give them what they’re looking for to fill their narrative, they blow you up and charge you with a crime.”
Mueller’s team has secured several guilty pleas related to making false statements to federal investigators as part of the probe.
But Trusty told Fox News that “does not suggest a particularly successful investigation.”
“It’s heavy on false statement charges, and that doesn’t suggest that it’s moving in the right direction for the prosecution,” Trusty said. “It doesn’t suggest to me that they’re making a lot of headway on the substance of their investigation which is Russian collusion.”
He added: “As an ex-prosecutor, false statements are very distant second place.”
Trusty also said that during the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server, investigators and former FBI Director James Comey “swore off ever pursuing false statements charges,” quoting a recent Justice Department inspector general report.
“Are there two sets of rules?” Trusty said. “It’s a fair question that someone in the FBI or Justice Department ought to answer at some point.”
DiGenova, who has informally advised the president throughout the probe, suggested that Mueller was running a “parallel Justice Department.”
“These threats to Dr. Corsi and to Paul Manafort are a manifestation of a fatally flawed constitutionally corrupt investigation,” diGenova said. He added: “If you’re a Democrat, you get off scot-free, with immunity, and are able to destroy evidence and ignore subpoenas. If you’re a Republican, you’re going to jail no matter what.”
Despite the drama with witnesses, speculation is widespread that Mueller has much more information than prior reports indicate and could be preparing to strike with more indictments.
The president submitted his written answers to Mueller’s questions in the probe last week, marking a major milestone in the investigation. His attorneys said that despite their serious issues with the probe, the president has provided “unprecedented cooperation.”
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Yes. It would be nice if you actually answer questions rather than continually hide behind copy and paste jobs from the extremely biased fox new.
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Mueller is not the police.
He is not part of any Constitutional branch of government.
Not answerable to the Chief executive according to the Democrats.
Not answerable to the electorate or to anyone that is.
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I completely agree, these people are nothing but victims. Do you know how hard it is to remember when the truth is when you've been telling lies for years? It's just not fair.
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Of course he isn't the police. He is a special investigator under the FBI. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
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I thought you were joking or something, but remember you asked for it. This explains why your posts never make sense, because you post without even rudimentary knowledge of the subject.
Any 3rd grader knows any person can be charged with a crime whether they are guilty or not. Just as any person can be sued whether they are guilty or not.
Otherwise we'd just have a hanging tree rather than a Judicial Sysstem.
Being charged with a crime does not carry with it any finding of guilt, in fact it carries a presumption of innocence unless ultimately found guilty after the conclusion of a trial.
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Being charged is only the first step. If there was no lies then there is no perjury and thus of the contrary and then take it to the next step until convicted. Nobody is going to charge trump with perjury without having evidence to convict. If trump thinks it's a trap then he obviously realizes he can't tell the truth and thus he could be CONVICTED of perjury.
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The FBI is the federal police. Not sure why that needs to be explained...
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Mueller is not FBI. He was one once, but not now.
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Right because your president obstructed justice when he fired Comey. He even admitted it live on tv. But even after admitting it, we got these forever trumpers... Jesus..
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OK?
I think Trump should have fire Comey day one. But what the hell does that have to do with Mueller and not being FBI? The only way he become part of the FBI again, is if Trump appoints him. No way is that happening.
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He was HIRED by the FBI. Does that clear it up?
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Special Counsel for the Department of Justice
Main article: Special Counsel investigation (2017–present)
Further information: Dismissal of James Comey and Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
"Appointment of Special Counsel to Investigate Russian Interference in the 2016 United States Election and Related Matters", by then Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
On May 16, 2017, Mueller interviewed with President Trump to again serve as the Director of the FBI but was not hired.[67] The next day, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to serve as special counsel for the United States Department of Justice. In this capacity, Mueller oversees the investigation into "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".[68]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
Does this help you clear it up?
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So you agree he was appointed by the FBI then.Special Counsel for the Department of Justice
Main article: Special Counsel investigation (2017–present)
Further information: Dismissal of James Comey and Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
"Appointment of Special Counsel to Investigate Russian Interference in the 2016 United States Election and Related Matters", by then Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
On May 16, 2017, Mueller interviewed with President Trump to again serve as the Director of the FBI but was not hired.[67] The next day, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to serve as special counsel for the United States Department of Justice. In this capacity, Mueller oversees the investigation into "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".[68]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
Does this help you clear it up?
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Special Counsel for the Department of Justice
Main article: Special Counsel investigation (2017–present)
Further information: Dismissal of James Comey and Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
"Appointment of Special Counsel to Investigate Russian Interference in the 2016 United States Election and Related Matters", by then Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
On May 16, 2017, Mueller interviewed with President Trump to again serve as the Director of the FBI but was not hired.[67] The next day, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to serve as special counsel for the United States Department of Justice. In this capacity, Mueller oversees the investigation into "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".[68]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
Does this help you clear it up?
Who gives a shit about that?
Your president colluded with Russia and obstructed justice to cover it up. His people are pleading guilty left and right and y'all are like Leonardo DiCaprio at the end of The Titanic.
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What a novel idea.
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Also, he never worked for a criminal.
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Trump says pardon for Paul Manafort is 'not off the table'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-pardon-paul-manafort-not-table-n941366
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-pardon-paul-manafort-not-table-n941366
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Then why did you link an article that said that? Seems you're confused.
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What does it say?
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I think he will!
You make need to wait though.
And if he does accept the pardon then he will be compelled testify and tell the truth. If he lies he goes to jail. If he takes the fifth he goes to jail. Pardoning Manafort would fuck Trump.
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What i said. Now try and connect the dots
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This is what I posted.
"The next day, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to serve as special counsel"
You said something close to bullshit.