My consolidating idea

[VanillaGorilla]

I think Rudy Gay will be a better player than Gerald soon. He's four years younger, better scorer, and he's a decent defender.

I'm speechless.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ylz5son

Memphis gets a young and exciting point guard in Bayless, they get Aldridge who is a borderline all-star (and he's signed), plus they get Outlaw who they covet.

We get Conley (our pg of the future), Gasol (who would be a great backup center), and Gay as our starting small forward (who we would have to sign).

and then this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjxwrre

Houston gets Joel to play center for them while Yao is out (and if Yao continues to be out). They get Rudy to be there starting shooting guard until TMAC is back, and they get Batum and Blake.

We get Battier and Scola. Scola becomes our starting power forward, and Battier backs up Gay.

Miller/Conley
Roy/Webster
Gay/Battier
Scola/Howard/Dorsey
Oden/Gasol

Aldridge
Fernandez
Batum
Bayless
Outlaw
Fernandez
Blake

for

Conley
Gasol
Gay
Battier
Scola
Dorsey

Wow... are you sure you're a Blazers fan?

What an epic way to go about skull-fucking this roster into submission!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Rondo is another '06 draftee unlikely to sign an extension by the deadline.

He's worth All-Star money, wtf are the Celtics doing?!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Rondo is another '06 draftee unlikely to sign an extension by the deadline.

Now THERE's a guy worth loving. (Unless you're Brad Miller.) I would gladly offer the Celtics Bayless AND a choice of Blake or Miller for Rondo and filler. That would help our defensive problems in the backcourt considerably.

He's worth All-Star money, wtf are the Celtics doing?!

Saving money? Maybe they figure this is the way to motivate him?

 

[blue32]

/thread

 

[STOMP]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ylz5son

Memphis gets a young and exciting point guard in Bayless, they get Aldridge who is a borderline all-star (and he's signed), plus they get Outlaw who they covet.

We get Conley (our pg of the future), Gasol (who would be a great backup center), and Gay as our starting small forward (who we would have to sign).

and then this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjxwrre

Houston gets Joel to play center for them while Yao is out (and if Yao continues to be out). They get Rudy to be there starting shooting guard until TMAC is back, and they get Batum and Blake.

We get Battier and Scola. Scola becomes our starting power forward, and Battier backs up Gay.

Miller/Conley
Roy/Webster
Gay/Battier
Scola/Howard/Dorsey
Oden/Gasol

STOMP

 

[RR7]

STOMP

+2.

Consolidation, sure. That'd be great. Completely overhauling our roster from last season? I think that'd be a bad idea. Especially a week before the season starts. That lineup returns 2 people who played for us last season.

 

[Natebishop3]

Aldridge
Fernandez
Batum
Bayless
Outlaw
Fernandez
Blake

for

Conley
Gasol
Gay
Battier
Scola
Dorsey

Wow... are you sure you're a Blazers fan?

What an epic way to go about skull-fucking this roster into submission!

Apparently not as big a fan as you, because you included Rudy twice

I guess I think it's most important to keep Roy and Oden. I think the rest of the players have a high chance of leaving this team in the next few years, with the exception of Aldridge.

Joel, Blake, and Outlaw are all unrestricted free agents in the next year. Rudy and Bayless are going to want minutes. I just don't see how we're going to accommodate that.

Conley is the type of young point guard we've been coveting.

Gasol, Battier, and Scola would make us tremendously tough on defense and in the paint.

Sure, losing Aldridge is a big loss, but I think getting Gay and adding Scola in his place are more than enough compensation.

You know what, we all know there isn't going to be a trade. I simply proposed one that I think would make us a better team, and it clears out a lot of the logjams that we're facing right now.

I would also argue that now is the time to make a move like this. We are obviously still working on team cohesion and chemistry. We're trying to figure out how to add Oden into the mix on offense. If we're going to shake things up, now is the time. I guess that's just my opinion.

 

[Minstrel]

Sure, losing Aldridge is a big loss, but I think getting Gay and adding Scola in his place are more than enough compensation.

I can't say I agree. I really liked Gay's talent when he was coming out of college, but I have to say that I'm starting to consider him a bust. Sure, he puts up superficially good scoring numbers, but he's not actually a very good scorer due to his mediocre efficiency...and that's his strength! He doesn't pass or defend and his rebounding isn't noteworthy.

Coming out of college, I felt Gay had all the tools to be an all-around great player. He hasn't turned into that. He really is just Travis Outlaw with a better name brand.

I would never consider trading Aldridge with Gay as the primary, or as one of the primary, returns. Conley is a good young point guard, but not good enough to tempt me to trade Aldridge.

 

[Natebishop3]

I can't say I agree. I really liked Gay's talent when he was coming out of college, but I have to say that I'm starting to consider him a bust. Sure, he puts up superficially good scoring numbers, but he's not actually a very good scorer due to his mediocre efficiency...and that's his strength! He doesn't pass or defend and his rebounding isn't noteworthy.

Coming out of college, I felt Gay had all the tools to be an all-around great player. He hasn't turned into that. He really is just Travis Outlaw with a better name brand.

I would never consider trading Aldridge with Gay as the primary, or as one of the primary, returns. Conley is a good young point guard, but not good enough to tempt me to trade Aldridge.

Do you think maybe Gay would improve with a better coaching staff around him? I would love to see what he would look like with Bayno working with him.

 

[Wheels]

Do you think maybe Gay would improve with a better coaching staff around him? I would love to see what he would look like with Bayno working with him.

Not to the level Aldridge will/would

 

[RR7]

The biggest question for me would be what he improves to. Is he going to improve into beiong a lock down defender? Batum could potentially improve to that, and I don't think Gay can, will, or would want to. I suppose the argumen tcould be made that he replaces Aldridge's scoring in our lineup, but I'd mcuh rather a role playing SF to focus primarily on defending other teams' best players than another scorer on the wing, and a role playing PF.

 

[Natebishop3]

Not to the level Aldridge will/would

True, but it's not like it's gay for aldridge straight up. It's Gay/Gasol/Conley. Obviously Gay isn't the prospect that Aldridge is, but I am a big fan of Gasol, and I think Conley is a better point guard prospect than Bayless. Although Bayless will definitely be a superior scorer.

 

[RR7]

While a good prospect, and someone I like, Gasol would still just be a backup for us, so even if he is a nice player in a deal, his worthh to us is lower than to other teams, and we wouldn't get full value out of having him here, IMO. And, after next season, he would leave as a free agent anyways.

 

[Natebishop3]

While a good prospect, and someone I like, Gasol would still just be a backup for us, so even if he is a nice player in a deal, his worthh to us is lower than to other teams, and we wouldn't get full value out of having him here, IMO. And, after next season, he would leave as a free agent anyways.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Gasol could play both PF and C. I think he could be the ideal backup big man for us. If he was spending time at both post positions he should be able to play enough to be happy. If our front court was Scola, Oden, and Gasol, I would be thrilled. As much as I like Joel, he can't play power forward.

 

[RR7]

I can't see him as playing PF too effectively for us, but maybe I'm wrong. I heard the same thing out of Memphis after drafting Thabust, but just not buying it. I suppose you could play him there for stretches, but I wouldn't be too psyched about an Oden-Gasol pairing up front, personally. And, like I said, i think he would leave after next season anyways.

 

[SpanishFly]

Now THERE's a guy worth loving. (Unless you're Brad Miller.) I would gladly offer the Celtics Bayless AND a choice of Blake or Miller for Rondo and filler. That would help our defensive problems in the backcourt considerably.



Saving money? Maybe they figure this is the way to motivate him?

Ya wouldn't offer Rudy in a Rondo package? I would but you'd have to move Miller so trade more likely after Dec 15

 

[Eastoff]

If you want to get gay, you justh ave to touch balls.

 

[Minstrel]

Do you think maybe Gay would improve with a better coaching staff around him? I would love to see what he would look like with Bayno working with him.

It's possible, but Outlaw hasn't improved a lot. I think Outlaw is a decent player, unlike some, but his improvement curve hasn't been very steep and he still doesn't show much aptitude for passing or defense, the two things we'd want to see Gay improve dramatically.

I wouldn't take the risk on him today. Coming out of college, I wanted to gamble on his upside (over Roy, oops?). Now, I don't consider his upside to be very much above what he is now: a mediocre volume scorer.

 

[Chocolove]

I would gladly offer the Celtics Bayless AND a choice of Blake or Miller for Rondo and filler.

The way your putting it, it seems like the Celtics should be on the Blazers balls trying to accept this trade. Bayless AND a choice of Blake or Miller?!?!? oh my.