My guess for Portland's center next year: Al Horford

[Pinwheel1]

It will be interesting to see if Hibbert's ego allows for such a pay cut while technically still in his prime. My guess it will happen late in FA after it is clear no one is willing to pay him more. (Although I bet someone will offer at least 8-10 per)

 

[kjironman1]

It will be interesting to see if Hibbert's ego allows for such a pay cut while technically still in his prime. My guess it will happen late in FA after it is clear no one is willing to pay him more. (Although I bet someone will offer at least 8-10 per)

8-9 is what i am thinking he will get. Yes i would be okay with that after the cap increases.

 

[Schilly]

Hibbert is absolutely atrocious trash at this point in his career. His production per 36 has gone down steadily since his rookie season. This year he started 80 games and played 23mpg his per 36 is 9.2pts, 7.6reb and 2.1bk he has a per of 11.2 and he's going to be 30 in December. Honestly Vonleh isn't that far off from that type of production.... On top of that it's not like Hibbert can come in and be the wise old sage that Kaman has been for us. Serioulsy I would rather keep Kaman.

 

[kjironman1]

Hibbert is absolutely atrocious trash at this point in his career. His production per 36 has gone down steadily since his rookie season. This year he started 80 games and played 23mpg his per 36 is 9.2pts, 7.6reb and 2.1bk he has a per of 11.2 and he's going to be 30 in December. Honestly Vonleh isn't that far off from that type of production.... On top of that it's not like Hibbert can come in and be the wise old sage that Kaman has been for us. Serioulsy I would rather keep Kaman.

My only problem with that assessment is that everyone knows this is a tank year for the Lakers and it is the Kobe Farewell Tour. Hibbert played 80 games and he actually put up with the whole thing without sulking or being a cancer. That in itself has got to be hard.

 

[Schilly]

My only problem with that assessment is that everyone knows this is a tank year for the Lakers and it is the Kobe Farewell Tour. Hibbert played 80 games and he actually put up with the whole thing without sulking or being a cancer. That in itself has got to be hard.

Of all of what I pointed out... The fact that he has diminished as a player every year should be the biggest concern. The dude peaked early and we can't collectively get over that fact.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Of all of what I pointed out... The fact that he has diminished as a player every year should be the biggest concern. The dude peaked early and we can't collectively get over that fact.

My question is why has he diminished as a player? At 29 there are some things you can come back from, and other things you can't.

I certainly would not throw big money at him, but as I have said many times, I like the center by committee strategy, and his size fills one of the needs our committee lacks. He has never averaged 30 minutes a game in his career. If he is happy with 23 minutes per game, and about 8 million, I would take him and his 80% free throw shooting as one of our centers.

 

[Draco]

I would consider Hibbert at around $5M or less (and I'm sure he'll get double that from someone else), but I'm still far more interested in Larry Sanders. To me Hibbert isn't any more of a "safe bet" than Sanders, and doesn't have the potential upside.

Every player Neil has acquired has a killer work ethic. I don't see any scenario at all we sign a guy who quit basketball.

 

[Draco]

Hibbert is absolutely atrocious trash at this point in his career. His production per 36 has gone down steadily since his rookie season. This year he started 80 games and played 23mpg his per 36 is 9.2pts, 7.6reb and 2.1bk he has a per of 11.2 and he's going to be 30 in December. Honestly Vonleh isn't that far off from that type of production.... On top of that it's not like Hibbert can come in and be the wise old sage that Kaman has been for us. Serioulsy I would rather keep Kaman.

Good points. Hibbert is someone I've been intrigued with as possibly our 5th big man. Sort of take over Joel Freeland's role from two years ago. Certainly wouldn't give him more than a one year $8 million deal and even that might be a bit much. But maybe we'd be better off using the roster spot on a younger player with upside.

 

[blue9]

Every player Neil has acquired has a killer work ethic. I don't see any scenario at all we sign a guy who quit basketball.

Did Dorell have a good work ethic? Maybe he did, and it just didn't translate into being good on the court.
Also, isn't the knock on Monroe that he doesn't have a good work ethic? Neil went after him pretty hard. I'm not sure about that one oaf who went to LAC (totally blanking his name). And Kaman had a bad rep when we signed him. I dunno that I'm buying the idea that Neil only goes for guys with killer work ethics.

 

[stampedehero]

No chance in hell. Apocafuckinglypse.

Here are some alternatives to those players:

Meyers:
Andrew Nicholson
Mirza Teletovic
Jon Leuer

Crabbe:
Courtney Lee
Brandon Rush
Wayne Ellington

Harkless:
Solomon Hill
Wesley Johnson
James Michael McAdoo

Hendo:
Kevin Martin
Evan Turner
Caron Butler???

If Meyers Leonard gets 14 million and Crabbe gets 20 million I will shit my pants and pray to the holy powers above.

>If its 14 mil or 10, that money is still obscene and you deserve another pair of pants.

 

[Draco]

Another potential free agent idea depending on how the playoffs go; Timofey Mozgov.

He's had a down year in Cleveland, had some injuries, is a bit past his prime at 29, but is a big 7'1". Provides decent defense, rim protection, and interior scoring. Has a useful midrange jumper if we wanted to play him with Ed Davis. Played much better last season. Could be the odd big man out in Cleveland depending on what they do with Thompson, Frye, Love, and the trade exceptions we gave them.

 

[dviss1]

I would consider Hibbert at around $5M or less (and I'm sure he'll get double that from someone else), but I'm still far more interested in Larry Sanders. To me Hibbert isn't any more of a "safe bet" than Sanders, and doesn't have the potential upside.

Yasssssss! Join me Luke!! Come to the dark side!

 

[dviss1]

For those of you who aren't up on the Sanders situation:

http://hoopshype.com/player/larry-sanders/

 

[dviss1]

Did Dorell have a good work ethic? Maybe he did, and it just didn't translate into being good on the court.
Also, isn't the knock on Monroe that he doesn't have a good work ethic? Neil went after him pretty hard. I'm not sure about that one oaf who went to LAC (totally blanking his name). And Kaman had a bad rep when we signed him. I dunno that I'm buying the idea that Neil only goes for guys with killer work ethics.

I think Dorrell was smoking weed. That's just my opinion. Every time I saw him not in uniform he looked high.

 

[Draco]

Boban Marjanovic on the Spurs has been very effective when in the games. He'll be a restricted free agent. Massive 7'4" guy he makes Duncan look like a kid. Had a good run in backup units against Golden State and OKC. Can rebound, putbacks, hit shots inside, protect the rim, good free throw shooter, solid fundamentals. Older rookie at 27.

The Spurs players are tough to bid on because sometimes you don't know if its the system or the player. Works to the Spurs advantage where the league is scared to bid on their players because they might be fo0ls gold. Then the Spurs keep everyone for below market prices.

 

[blue9]

For those of you who aren't up on the Sanders situation:

http://hoopshype.com/player/larry-sanders/

Seems like Dame could really help show him how to balance basketball with his personal endeavors.

 

[B-Roy]

Boban Marjanovic on the Spurs has been very effective when in the games. He'll be a restricted free agent. Massive 7'4" guy he makes Duncan look like a kid. Had a good run in backup units against Golden State and OKC. Can rebound, putbacks, hit shots inside, protect the rim, good free throw shooter, solid fundamentals. Older rookie at 27.

Stop it. You're going to get Rasta all wet...

 

[Draco]

Stop it. You're going to get Rasta all wet...

Just saw Boban has a PER of 27.4! That's right there with LeBron James for 4th in the NBA, above CP3 and Kawhi. Nuts.

Spurs probably match; but maybe we can make it unpleasantly expensive for them.