My Stances

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jan 4 2007, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can play video games and get a job while still being a drinker. I do, and I have.Drinking and driving is not something anyone should do, so what does it have to do with being under 21? It's not like you're magically able to drink and drive when you turn 21.</div>Nobody should EVER drink and drive. I never said that. 21 is the age America has generally chosen that kids are (hopefully) mentally mature enough to drink responsibly.

 

[Justice]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Jan 4 2007, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nobody should EVER drink and drive.</div>I'm glad that you agree with me. So like I said, your argument applies to everyone, not just those under 21. Give me a reason why it is acceptable to drink over 21, but not under. I'm talking about a reason that I shouldn't drink, not some imaginary person.

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I hate the value of the vote in America today. I don't know where you live (Cali, perhaps), but obviously I live in Texas. Now, the number of electoral votes Wyoming (3) gets is far less than Texas (34). Assuming I vote for the winning candidate (and it matters in the end decision), my vote is technically worth a buttload more than someone from Wyoming's. Then again, if I vote for the loser, the vote is typically worthless. Sometimes in the past, electoral votes have been split between the candidates. So let's say that about half of the votes in Texas go to a Democrat and the other half goes to a Republican. Maybe there's also 1 or 2 percent or whatever to the Independent. Then the votes would go 16 and 16 to the Republican and the Democrat, 2 to the Independent. This is just a poor example. Many countries do this so that everyone's vote matters. America doesn't.</div>yeah, I'm talking about how the voting is skewed proportionally to population (because of the senate electoral votes). Based on population, if CA gets 55 electoral votes than wyoming should get approximately 0.8. Conversely, if wyoming gets 3 electoral votes, california should get 206 based on population. Since there are 68.75 times as many californians as wyoming residents, and we only get 18.333333 times as many votes, then per capita, a wyoming resident's vote counts about 3.75 times as much as a californian. This is what allows a situation like 2000 (the guy with the most votes losing) to happen and it's annoying to say the least.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cb4fan @ Jan 2 2007, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 110 - 115 around average? Why wouldn't you let average people vote?</div>100 is average. IQ is mental age divided by actual age multiplied by 100. But IQ would be a terrible way to do it because it has nothing to do with the issues. A lot of times high IQ and knowledge of the issues overlap (IE me) but there is little correlation and letting people vote based on whether they can put shapes together is a terrible idea

 

[Justice]

Eh well. States rights something something.

 

[bbwWolf]

Smoking: I sort of agree. It's a terrible habit but I don't think your a pussy if you smoke for stress, I think your making excusesUnderage Drinking: I don't support any kind of drinking. Why damage our brains to have fun for a night and then feel terrible the next day?Abortion: I only support it for rape victims. Otherwise, just have the baby and give it to an adoption agency (Not trying to sound insensitive)

 

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wolf @ Jan 4 2007, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Smoking: I sort of agree. It's a terrible habit but I don't think your a pussy if you smoke for stress, I think your making excusesUnderage Drinking: I don't support any kind of drinking. Why damage our brains to have fun for a night and then feel terrible the next day?</div>Right. Pussies makes excuses lol Hence...Exactly on drinking.And Justice, it's better to wait till 21 to drink so your body has developed more and has more time to build a healthy liver so you can take longer to destroy it. That's why the legal drinking age is 21 anyway. So the body has time to develop.

 

[Justice]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Jan 5 2007, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And Justice, it's better to wait till 21 to drink so your body has developed more and has more time to build a healthy liver so you can take longer to destroy it. That's why the legal drinking age is 21 anyway. So the body has time to develop.</div>Oh give me a break. The liver has to be healthy long long long before that. I don't see any reason why you would need to wait until 21 to drink. If it's 12 year olds banging down 40s that's one thing, but I think a 16 or 17 year old could handle alcohol just fine. Regardless, it's a completely arbitrary age. I'm not any more able to handle alcohol than I was a year ago (I mean, if you ignore tolerance) than I am now. I will not be any different in a month when I turn 21, either.