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Roy starts, Wallace still coming off the bench vs Kings.
 
Pure speculation.

Just thought I'd try and stir the pot a little.
 
I expect Roy to be shut down very soon.
 
Roy isn't going to play against the Kings, they said that before this game. He isn't going to play on the 2nd night of a back to back.
 
What sucks is that two of our best players play the same position. Actually, right now, I'd probably with this lineup

Miller
Matthews
Batum
Wallace
Aldridge
 
This Roy sucks and hurts the team far more than he helps it. Shut him down and hope to God there is another Allan Houston clause in the new CBA
 
Roy isn't starting anytime soon, for many reasons.

1) He's not in game shape yet.
2) Nobody knows how long his knees will hold up, and once you make that move it could be damaging to the psyche of a guy like Wesley. If Brandon starts, Wesley goes back to the bench. If Brandon has to shut it down again, oh by the way - you're starting again Wesley? Not real fair. Now if Brandon proves he can stay healthy and starts playing at a high level, that's a different story. But if he's handed his starting job back w/o proving he can stay healthy and play well consistently - not fair to Wesley and the rest of the team.
3) Wesley Matthews is a better all around player AT THIS TIME
4) Roy has to prove he can impact the game in a positive way consistently. Since he's been back they are 1-3. He looked fantastic vs. Denver, and mediocre in the losses.
 
b\c cleary the last 2 games have shown that Roy deserves to be starting.....

IS this was we have to look forward to from Roy from now on? 1 good game followed by 3? 4? more? games of can it even be called mediocre? play? and horrific "ole!" defense?

ugh....
 
Shooter said:
Why? Is he hobbling again? I only saw him in his first game back, and he looked pretty good.
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He has 2 FT attempts since returning, our running game and defense have vanished, and we're 1-3 with 2 blowout losses at home.

Define "pretty good".
 
Blaming Roy for the past two debacles is like blaming one mediocre apple for 10 gallons of bad cider.
 
Shooter said:
Why? Is he hobbling again? I only saw him in his first game back, and he looked pretty good.
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Really? He looks just like the Roy before he went out earlier this season to me. His movement is limited and defensivelyl players just run right by him. One of the reasons there was no help for him on many plays last night was because he got blown by so fast, that help could not arrive. It was that easy. One of my freinds compared his movement to Robert Horry. I believe he is spot on.

Also I would point out that the Denver game, although he got the shot of in the end, it was more of a coaching mistake by George Karl to put a shorter player on him (Felton) where normally they would have Affalo on him. I think if Affalo was on him, that shot wouldn't have happened. Roy cannot move like he used to. He struggled to even get that shot off. He just got lucky George Karl fucked up.
 
Natebishop3 said:
What sucks is that two of our best players play the same position. Actually, right now, I'd probably with this lineup
Miller
Matthews
Batum
Wallace
Aldridge
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I call and raise you a Camby.

Miller
Matthews
Wallace
Aldridge
Camby

That's the starting lineup I want to see.
 
If Roy doesn't play tonight and we win, I think that says volumes! My bet LA and Wallaces's #'s are great and we kick the Kings ass!


I watched the game and BRoy is screwing up the chemistry, not Wallace, and LA has totally vanished since Broy's return! My worry has now been confirmed!


Roy needs to be benched, no further questions! He's done! Let's move on!

Nate needs to realize playcating Roy is killing this teams chances of a playoffs run, a week ago we were very much in!!!
 
Yardape said:
If Roy doesn't play tonight and we win, I think that says volumes! My bet LA and Wallaces's #'s are great and we kick the Kings ass!


I watched the game and BRoy is screwing up the chemistry, not Wallace, and LA has totally vanished since Broy's return! My worry has now been confirmed!


Roy needs to be benched, no further questions! He's done! Let's move on!

Nate needs to realize playcating Roy is killing this teams chances of a playoffs run, a week ago we were very much in!!!
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A little frothy on the delivery, but I agree with pretty much all the observations here.
 
There is the very real danger of this turning into another Mo/Damon situation. Mo - and the team - were pretty much doomed at the point he just handed Damon the keys, and sat on the bench with his head in his hands.
 
HailBlazers said:
I call and raise you a Camby.

Miller
Matthews
Wallace
Aldridge
Camby

That's the starting lineup I want to see.
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id like to see that as well.

second unit of rudy-wes-nic-crash-LMA used to push the pace a bit. let rudy and crash run and have shooters trail. lots of people to make cuts when LMA is down low too
 
Yardape said:
If Roy doesn't play tonight and we win, I think that says volumes! My bet LA and Wallaces's #'s are great and we kick the Kings ass!


I watched the game and BRoy is screwing up the chemistry, not Wallace, and LA has totally vanished since Broy's return! My worry has now been confirmed!


Roy needs to be benched, no further questions! He's done! Let's move on!

Nate needs to realize playcating Roy is killing this teams chances of a playoffs run, a week ago we were very much in!!!
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I dont think beating the kings says anything either way. I could beat the kings by myself. Wait til we play some quality then judge the whole Wallace/Roy/Aldridge chemistry thing.
 
Last time I looked the Hawks and Rockets were not considered upper echelon teams in this league. Getting past the Kings was still a huge concern as we saw! That said LA had a better outing although still not up to the standards we and he knows he can do. As for the Roy thing, I have to say him not playing was a relief to me. Two years ago that would have been unthinkable but know I just hope he sits. The team and its "ENERGY" is just better without him!
 
Yardape said:
If Roy doesn't play tonight and we win, I think that says volumes! My bet LA and Wallaces's #'s are great and we kick the Kings ass!


I watched the game and BRoy is screwing up the chemistry, not Wallace, and LA has totally vanished since Broy's return! My worry has now been confirmed!


Roy needs to be benched, no further questions! He's done! Let's move on!

Nate needs to realize playcating Roy is killing this teams chances of a playoffs run, a week ago we were very much in!!!
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Then explain why Aldridge put up 29/14 and 24/14 in Roy's first two games back and why he shot 9-27 last night when Roy didn't play

Roy bashers will ignore this post
 
Yardape said:
Last time I looked the Hawks and Rockets were not considered upper echelon teams in this league. Getting past the Kings was still a huge concern as we saw! That said LA had a better outing although still not up to the standards we and he knows he can do. As for the Roy thing, I have to say him not playing was a relief to me. Two years ago that would have been unthinkable but know I just hope he sits. The team and its "ENERGY" is just better without him!
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That Hawks are actually turning to be really good since they added Capt. Kirk as their PG. Their defense went from OK to darn good. Add the fact that both teams had the kind of guys that give LMA fits on defense (physical or very long) and it is pretty clear why we had problems with them.
 
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