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julius said:
So instead of changing what seems to be acceptable behavior, we should accept it or just avoid public spotlight?

Seems like the easier option would to not accept the behavior of death threats, name calling, shaming (etc).
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Nope in both scenarios, all the fuck heads that say "kill yourself" or stupid shit like that are wrong. But to say this is only labeled because a boy advertises they are a girl nationally, is false. All public figures will be ridiculed and have assholes like these saying shit like that. None of it is excusable.

What I'm getting at is the moment you go public, you will get shit like this. Just like the Britney Spears or Miley's in music. If you can't take it, then keep it private.
 
crandc said:
Magnifier, I refuse to get sidetracked on Britney Spears. Answer the fucking question. You said other girls who run for homecoming queen don't deserve abuse; does this girl? Yes or no? You said she is trying to get publicity, what is your basis for that? Has she said so? Or are you just saying it to excuse shitty bigoted behavior? Which girls and women "deserve" abuse according to you?
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Um I did answer the question, but your defensiveness to the rainbow clouded your observation. The girl or guy homecoming queen doesn't deserve the behavior, but both will get it if they go public.

You can say I sidetracked you all you want, but the Britney Spears is a prime example of a public figure "being a girl even" with the same fucking assholes saying shit like "I hope you die". I showed you this and how you find doing it to a rainbow is unacceptable, yet you don't go blasting on the people telling Britney to do the same.

I find this very contradicting behavior.
 
Denny Crane said:
She said she ran to make a statement. I think that qualifies as trying to get publicity, along with the YouTube channel.

That does not excuse how she's been treated, by any stretch.
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Exactly on both statements. What was said to him was wrong, but it goes with the territory.

I had an opportunity to get signed to interscope, even though it was development deal; there could of been a good chance we would be popular. I just had my daughter and I decided this wasn't the life for me. I didn't want to be public like that and have my child see assholes say things about my daughter's dad. I did that to protect them.
 
Simply put, if you don't want attention, both positive and negative, don't seek attention. Nobody made this guy make his YouTube video.
 
And if you don't want to be robbed, don't go out at night.

If you don't want to get raped, don't wear a skirt.

If you don't want to be set on fire, don't wear flammable clothes.

If you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver, don't be on the road.



Those are all pretty damn silly, don't ya think? Perhaps we instead hold people responsible for their actions. Just because Reggie Miller is a public figure doesn't mean he should have people yell the N-word at him. Just because Sarah Palin is an imbecile in government doesn't mean people should threaten to rape her. And just because a transgender teen makes a video and puts it on youtube doesn't mean she should receive death threats.

How about assigning blame correctly.
 
ok.

damn you anonymous twitter users, damn you all to hell!
 
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And if you don't want to be robbed, don't go out at night.
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No. More like "don't go for a walk in the ghetto"

If you don't want to get raped, don't wear a skirt.
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No. More like "don't get drunk with a room full of rapest"

If you don't want to be set on fire, don't wear flammable clothes.
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Close. Don't wear flammable cloths while fighting a fire.

If you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver, don't be on the road.
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This was a terrible strawman



Those are all pretty damn silly, don't ya think? Perhaps we instead hold people responsible for their actions. Just because Reggie Miller is a public figure doesn't mean he should have people yell the N-word at him. Just because Sarah Palin is an imbecile in government doesn't mean people should threaten to rape her. And just because a transgender teen makes a video and puts it on youtube doesn't mean she should receive death threats.

How about assigning blame correctly.
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No I am fine with my statement and am not swayed.
 
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And if you don't want to be robbed, don't go out at night.
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What? I suppose if you went out at night announcing you were out, you'd attract attention, but what does that have to do with being robbed? What is this guy being robbed of, in reality? He's now on TV shows. He wanted publicity. He got it. I don't care either way if he won Homecoming Queen, but acting like he didn't seek attention is disingenuous of you.

If you don't want to get raped, don't wear a skirt.
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Stupid analogy

If you don't want to be set on fire, don't wear flammable clothes.
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Stupid analogy

If you don't want to be hit by a drunk driver, don't be on the road.
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Stupid analogy


Those are all pretty damn silly, don't ya think? Perhaps we instead hold people responsible for their actions. Just because Reggie Miller is a public figure doesn't mean he should have people yell the N-word at him. Just because Sarah Palin is an imbecile in government doesn't mean people should threaten to rape her. And just because a transgender teen makes a video and puts it on youtube doesn't mean she should receive death threats.

How about assigning blame correctly.
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Actually, the only thing silly is to go on YouTube to announce your intentions of wanting atttention, to the point where people in Portland are posting it on a Blazer message board. The other things happen, unfortunately, but if you really think your stupid analogies are applicable, then it's probably time for you and me to ignore each other.
 
For two weeks, I'm not getting pulled into debates, just stating what on my mind and bidding farewell.

I'll stop in later, hope your evening is a splendid one.
 
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For two weeks, I'm not getting pulled into debates, just stating what on my mind and bidding farewell.

I'll stop in later, hope your evening is a splendid one.
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You're like the guy that sucker punches a guy not looking and runs away
 
I was going to just ignore this, hell, others have done a fine job of once again calling out SlyPokerDog's spineless bullshit.
 
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magnifier661 said:
No. More like "don't go for a walk in the ghetto"
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There is crime in other areas other than "the ghetto"

No. More like "don't get drunk with a room full of rapest"
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If only they had labels, and were all in a room...

Close. Don't wear flammable cloths while fighting a fire.



This was a terrible strawman
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YOU'RE A STRAWMAN! THIS WHOLE THREAD IS A STRAWMAN!

No I am fine with my statement and am not swayed.
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Victim blaming is a socially conservative practice. Woman went out at night and got raped? Well she shouldn't be out at night anyway...
 
Victim of what? People on twitter sending "death threats"? If a kicker misses a field goal in a football game they get the same thing. Its twitter.
 
julius said:
There is crime in other areas other than "the ghetto"



If only they had labels, and were all in a room...



YOU'RE A STRAWMAN! THIS WHOLE THREAD IS A STRAWMAN!
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No shit! It is absolutely a strawman! I was just replying to the obvious strawman rationale.
 
hoojacks said:
Victim blaming is a socially conservative practice. Woman went out at night and got raped? Well she shouldn't be out at night anyway...
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And the socially liberal would say "we need to ban guns!"

Ps no guns were involved, but they would say "if we allow guns to be available, these criminals will use them the next time!"
 
SlyPokerDog is a racist, IMO, based on some of his posts, a bigot against people who believe in God, and have admitted to trying to preach his atheism to his own family.
 
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PapaG said:
SlyPokerDog is a racist, IMO, based on some of his posts, a bigot against people who believe in God, and have admitted to trying to preach his atheism to his own family.
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ass houses, those that live in ass houses.


Is that the right phrase?
 
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slypokerdog was this nations true first transgender homecoming queen.
 
PapaG said:
I literally have had zero respect for SlyPokerDog.
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In a couple weeks I'll be happy to debate you on this. You take the side of zero respect and I'll take the side of respecting our dear commissioner.
 
Hahahaha SlyPokerDog is ridiculous.
 
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aww damn SPD..dont put words in my mouth....lol, you know I never speak ill of you..
 
Fuck SlyPokerDog, by the way. What an arsehole.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Hahahaha you are ridiculous.
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How is this not a personal attack?

There is absolutely nothing in this post other than a direct personal attack.

In another thread, Julius was just trying to argue that there isn't a double standard in the moderating here. Riiiiiiight.
 
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