OT Native Americans Mourn on Thanksgiving

[Chris Craig]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/native-americans-mark-thanksgiving-day-mourning-133603996.html

Thanksgiving is not a day of celebration for Native Americans, but rather a day of mourning as it marks the anniversary of the arrival of the european pilgrims who brought disease, racism, and opression.

 

[Natebishop3]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/native-americans-mark-thanksgiving-day-mourning-133603996.html

Thanksgiving is not a day of celebration for Native Americans, but rather a day of mourning as it marks the anniversary of the arrival of the european pilgrims who brought disease, racism, and opression.

I gotta be honest here.... what is the alternate scenario? At SOME POINT people were going to come to North America. And whenever that happened, they would naturally bring disease. The estimates are that tens of millions of natives died simply from contact with Europeans. How was that to be avoided?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I gotta be honest here.... what is the alternate scenario? At SOME POINT people were going to come to North America. And whenever that happened, they would naturally bring disease. The estimates are that tens of millions of natives died simply from contact with Europeans. How was that to be avoided?

When the germans got here........yikes

 

[SlyPokerDog]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/native-americans-mark-thanksgiving-day-mourning-133603996.html

Thanksgiving is not a day of celebration for Native Americans, but rather a day of mourning as it marks the anniversary of the arrival of the european pilgrims who brought disease, racism, and opression.

Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving. Two of them will be celebrating it with me this year.

This will be the first holiday for everyone since the passing of my grandson so there will be some mourning.

 

[Natebishop3]

Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving. Two of them will be celebrating it with me this year.

This will be the first holiday for everyone since the passing of my grandson so there will be some mourning.

Sorry man. My wife's family lost her sister years ago and the pain never goes away.

 

[Chris Craig]

Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving. Two of them will be celebrating it with me this year.

This will be the first holiday for everyone since the passing of my grandson so there will be some mourning.

Again, my condolences. I wish you and your family a happy thanksgiving

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving. Two of them will be celebrating it with me this year.

This will be the first holiday for everyone since the passing of my grandson so there will be some mourning.

I hated Christmas for years because my aunt died at Christmas. It still reminds me of her but each year I try to think of all the good things about her and it makes it better.

My wife got tired of me being grumpy at Christmas and I realized why I was like that and made an effort.

 

[MARIS61]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/native-americans-mark-thanksgiving-day-mourning-133603996.html

Thanksgiving is not a day of celebration for Native Americans, but rather a day of mourning as it marks the anniversary of the arrival of the european pilgrims who brought disease, racism, and opression.

What a crock. Some racist idiot and his 2 dozen loser followers.

I'm celebrating Thanksgiving with my daughter-in-law who has several hundred times more Ameican-Indian dna in her than Pocahontas Warren has.

 

[Lanny]

Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving. Two of them will be celebrating it with me this year.

This will be the first holiday for everyone since the passing of my grandson so there will be some mourning.

Again, I want to express my sorrow for your loss.

 

[Lanny]

I hated Christmas for years because my aunt died at Christmas. It still reminds me of her but each year I try to think of all the good things about her and it makes it better.

My wife got tired of me being grumpy at Christmas and I realized why I was like that and made an effort.

You'd be amazed at how many people hate the Christmas holidays every year. There's always some difficult relatives that have to be dealt with.

 

[Chris Craig]

I hated Christmas for years because my aunt died at Christmas. It still reminds me of her but each year I try to think of all the good things about her and it makes it better.

My wife got tired of me being grumpy at Christmas and I realized why I was like that and made an effort.

The last Christmas I spent with my dad (3 christmas ago) he had a breathing attack because of his emphysema and I had to call 911. I told him I loved him as he got into the ambulance. I never saw him alive again. He died later in the hospital.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The last Christmas I spent with my dad (3 christmas ago) he had a breathing attack because of his emphysema and I had to call 911. I told him I loved him as he got into the ambulance. I never saw him alive again. He died later in the hospital.

Damn, I'm so sorry for your loss.

 

[Chris Craig]

Damn, I'm so sorry for your loss.

It was 3 years ago almost. But, yeah the holidays are still tough without the old man around. Thank you. I appreciate it man.

 

[Lanny]

The last Christmas I spent with my dad (3 christmas ago) he had a breathing attack because of his emphysema and I had to call 911. I told him I loved him as he got into the ambulance. I never saw him alive again. He died later in the hospital.

I'm very sorry. I remember the last time I saw my father alive. Here it is over 50 years later and it still pains me.
Thank God you got to tell your father how much you loved him.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The last Christmas I spent with my dad (3 christmas ago) he had a breathing attack because of his emphysema and I had to call 911. I told him I loved him as he got into the ambulance. I never saw him alive again. He died later in the hospital.

That's awful. I'm glad you got to tell him before they left.

 

[Lanny]

That's awful. I'm glad you got to tell him before they left.

It was a touching story.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Natebishop3]

But I don't want to move to India

 

[stampedehero]

If you came over here on a rat infested wooden ship with lice and fleas feeding on humans and rats you would be an infection too. The Indians should have wasted all the colonists as the first option.

 

[stampedehero]

The last Christmas I spent with my dad (3 christmas ago) he had a breathing attack because of his emphysema and I had to call 911. I told him I loved him as he got into the ambulance. I never saw him alive again. He died later in the hospital.

In 012, lost my dad too. Really loved him..

 

[ripcityboy]

When the germans got here........yikes

 

[dviss1]

I gotta be honest here.... what is the alternate scenario? At SOME POINT people were going to come to North America. And whenever that happened, they would naturally bring disease. The estimates are that tens of millions of natives died simply from contact with Europeans. How was that to be avoided?

Why didn't they come here and adopt the ways of the people that lived here like we want immigrants to do now?

Imagine if they did that.

And please don't whitewash the fact that natives were given blankets with smallpox. Purposely.

That wasn't some accident.

 

[BlazerWookee]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/native-americans-mark-thanksgiving-day-mourning-133603996.html

Thanksgiving is not a day of celebration for Native Americans, but rather a day of mourning as it marks the anniversary of the arrival of the european pilgrims who brought disease, racism, and opression.

<facepalm>

 

[Hoopguru]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/native-americans-mark-thanksgiving-day-mourning-133603996.html

Thanksgiving is not a day of celebration for Native Americans, but rather a day of mourning as it marks the anniversary of the arrival of the european pilgrims who brought disease, racism, and opression.

What they teach in the schools about the come together feast was totally made up for political pr. School history books were much like the media today with much biased reporting on all sides.

 

[Natebishop3]

Why didn't they come here and adopt the ways of the people that lived here like we want immigrants to do now?

Imagine if they did that.

And please don't whitewash the fact that natives were given blankets with smallpox. Purposely.

That wasn't some accident.

That happened much later. In one of my history classes in college we discussed the initial arrival of the pilgrims and when they got to the Eastern seaboard they thought that the land was gifted to them from God because there were all these fields that were ready to farm. The natives were already all dead in that area. They had no idea. Many millions of the natives had died from the initial contact with Europeans before the immigrants from England got here.

The smallpox blankets happened later after the colonies had been established.

Also, please don't accuse me of "whitewashing." I find it personally offensive, and I really think you should be more sensitive to the fact that you yourself were pissed off about how the word "black" is used negatively in the dictionary.

 

[dviss1]

That happened much later. In one of my history classes in college we discussed the initial arrival of the pilgrims and when they got to the Eastern seaboard they thought that the land was gifted to them from God because there were all these fields that were ready to farm. The natives were already all dead in that area. They had no idea. Many millions of the natives had died from the initial contact with Europeans before the immigrants from England got here.

The smallpox blankets happened later after the colonies had been established.

Also, please don't accuse me of "whitewashing." I find it personally offensive, and I really think you should be more sensitive to the fact that you yourself were pissed off about how the word "black" is used negatively in the dictionary.

Jesus man, whitewashing is a term that wasn't invented by me but was used in context...

 

[Natebishop3]

Jesus man, whitewashing is a term that wasn't invented by me but was used in context...

You told me to "please don't whitewash the fact that natives were given blankets with smallpox. Purposely."

I'm just asking that you don't accuse me personally of whitewashing.

 

[dviss1]

You told me to "please don't whitewash the fact that natives were given blankets with smallpox. Purposely."

I'm just asking that you don't accuse me personally of whitewashing.

Well I don't know what else to call it when you bring up disease from simple contact with Europeans....

I personally think that's a load.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well I don't know what else to call it when you bring up disease from simple contact with Europeans....

I personally think that's a load.

Pilgrims didn't even come over until 1620. Millions upon Millions had died from Spanish/Portuguese exploration. This is just in Mexico.

And as I said, in one of the books that we were studying in college, the initial explorers from England didn't even really encounter natives and found empty villages that had been wiped out from disease. The smallpox blankets were much later when the British were trying to wage war against the native tribes.

 

[Lanny]

What they teach in the schools about the come together feast was totally made up for political pr. School history books were much like the media today with much biased reporting on all sides.

Hey, hey now, I like to pictures of American Indians sitting down to a roast turkey dinner complete with stuffing and cranberry sauce alongside our new pilgrims in their dress garb of the day and a fire in the kitchen fireplace. Oh, the laughter and camaraderie while toasting with a glass of white wine. Isn't that the way it was?