NBA draft breakdown by Sam Amick of SI

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Interesting comparison: T-Rob = A more skilled Faried?

Most websites compare him to an Amar'e type of PF.
 
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Interesting comparison: T-Rob = A more skilled Faried?

Most websites compare him to an Amar'e type of PF.

I have seen him play on tv only, of course, and never thought of Faried. He is smaller than Amare, and Faried is a pretty good comparison, although he is a lot more skilled than Faried
 
Faried and Amre'e couldn't be more different though.

The next time Amar'e crashes the boards and plays tough defense it'll be the first.
 
Faried and Amre'e couldn't be more different though.

The next time Amar'e crashes the boards and plays tough defense it'll be the first.

Their offensive games aren't that different, just their motors. Now defense is a different story
 
I'd love to see an archive of things like this written before each of the last few drafts.
 
I'd love to see an archive of things like this written before each of the last few drafts.

That would be awesome. The only thing I can find that is sort of like that is the draft histories and the players comparisons.
 
I'd love to see an archive of things like this written before each of the last few drafts.

Me too. Some brief review of past drafts on DX seems to indicate that "safe picks" are really not very safe at all. This is part of the reason why I'm usually for drafting homerun type picks, I really don't think their success/bust rate is much worse, if at all.
 
Interesting comparison: T-Rob = A more skilled Faried?

Most websites compare him to an Amar'e type of PF.

That's like saying that Pippen was a more skilled Derrick McKey.

Faried is a role player, which isn't at all a criticism of him. If you're drafting at #2, though, I'm hoping the aim is a little bit higher than an undersized 'hustle' guy.
 
That's like saying that Pippen was a more skilled Derrick McKey.

Faried is a role player, which isn't at all a criticism of him. If you're drafting at #2, though, I'm hoping the aim is a little bit higher than an undersized 'hustle' guy.

That's what it says. He is a skilled guy with a ridiculous motor
 
Have they already been measured? Or is that in June at the pre-draft camp in Chicago?

It is funny that Thomas is considered undersized at 6'9" 240 (with a 7' 1" reach) and Davis is the next Tim Duncan at 6 10" 220.

It will be interesting how they all measure out.
 
I think Davis will have a reach around 9'3" -- the most important combine measurement IMO.
 
Have they already been measured? Or is that in June at the pre-draft camp in Chicago?

It is funny that Thomas is considered undersized at 6'9" 240 (with a 7' 1" reach) and Davis is the next Tim Duncan at 6 10" 220.

It will be interesting how they all measure out.

That comes at the pre draft camp
 
Have they already been measured? Or is that in June at the pre-draft camp in Chicago?

It is funny that Thomas is considered undersized at 6'9" 240 (with a 7' 1" reach) and Davis is the next Tim Duncan at 6 10" 220.

It will be interesting how they all measure out.

I highly doubt Robinson comes in at much more than 6'7", but those are my own thoughts based on observation.
 
It's odd he finds things to grips about the can't miss types. Just goes to show how iffy the draft can be.
 
I highly doubt Robinson comes in at much more than 6'7", but those are my own thoughts based on observation.

Probably. And because of it he will start to slip and slip on draft night until we all begin to sweat as he isn't taken in the first 5 picks and who has number #6? Oh Shit then what?
 
Probably. And because of it he will start to slip and slip on draft night until we all begin to sweat as he isn't taken in the first 5 picks and who has number #6? Oh Shit then what?

I think at #6 he'd be worth it. I don't see how the guy will bust, but then again, I didn't think Beasley would bust, either.

Rather take him at #6 than make a decision at #2, though. Outside of Davis, I don't think any player is a sure thing in this draft.
 
I highly doubt Robinson comes in at much more than 6'7", but those are my own thoughts based on observation.

How much smaller is he than guys like Josh Smith? David Lee? Luis Scola? Millsap? Ryan Anderson? Hes not as heavy as guys like Love, Zach Randolph, Boozer, etc. but hes also a much better athlete. The PF position has gotten much smaller since the days of Duncan, KG, J. O'Neal, Webber, Sheed, etc. I'd say a 6'10 PF is above average these days.
 
How much smaller is he than guys like Josh Smith? David Lee? Luis Scola? Millsap? Ryan Anderson? Hes not as heavy as guys like Love, Zach Randolph, Boozer, etc. but hes also a much better athlete. The PF position has gotten much smaller since the days of Duncan, KG, J. O'Neal, Webber, Sheed, etc. I'd say a 6'10 PF is above average these days.

That made too much sense. It doesn't deserve a response.
 
How much smaller is he than guys like Josh Smith? David Lee? Luis Scola? Millsap? Ryan Anderson? Hes not as heavy as guys like Love, Zach Randolph, Boozer, etc. but hes also a much better athlete. The PF position has gotten much smaller since the days of Duncan, KG, J. O'Neal, Webber, Sheed, etc. I'd say a 6'10 PF is above average these days.

AMEN. How do people not realize that they call the majority of PFs undersized? Since they are the majority that makes them average

Anthony Davis is Brandan Wright 2.0
 
AMEN. How do people not realize that they call the majority of PFs undersized? Since they are the majority that makes them average

Anthony Davis is Brandan Wright 2.0

FWIW I do fall into the class of people who prefer to have a tall PF in addition to a space eating C. Most championship caliber teams of late have had this. But Thomas Robinson is such a quality college player with his combination of skill, athleticism, tenacity, and motor. Hes getting knocked way too hard for his height, especially since hes got a body like Josh Smith or Brandon Bass.

As for your second point, I couldn't disagree more. I was a big fan of Wright at UNC and was stoked the Warriors got him, but he proved to be extremely passive and to this day his progression has been underwhelming. For several years he didn't improve on anything at all and hes just now looking like a passable 8th or 9th man. Wright averaged 6.2 rpg and 1.8 bpg in college. The 6.2 rpg is pretty crappy no matter how you slice it, even factoring in that he averaged 27 mpg and he played next to Hansbrough. He was a good shotblocker then, and his shotblocking has translated over into the NBA. But Anthony Davis' 4.7 bpg is just on another level entirely. Wright is still a crappy rebounder and has maxed out his weight at maybe 230 lbs. (came into the league at 200 lbs!).

Davis looks taller to me and just going off the eyeball test he looks like hes got much broader shoulders and thicker legs. He seems much more mentally tough, focused, and intense. He seems willing and able to be physical down low. He committed to playing defense like a KG. Davis averaged over 10 rpg in college. Hes might be even more of a wild card on offense than Wright was but he does flash a pretty good handle from time to time and I love his (alleged) work ethic.

FWIW this comparison is another reason why I have grown to like John Henson despite trying not to like him because of his being a fellow bean pole UNC PF to BW. When you look at them more closely you see that Henson was a far superior rebounder (even despite playing next to Zeller). He plays with intensity that Wright has never shown. He's put up some tremendous bpg numbers in his own right, although it should be considered that hes a junior now while BW was a freshman. He was hitting 18 foot jumpers consistently this season at UNC. Wright was compared more to a Chris Bosh/KG type whereas Henson's upside is more like Camby, but I've come to realize that although Henson reminds one of Wright, hes a much better rebounder, probably a better shotblocker, and his mental makeup is much better IMO. Henson's frame is a legitimate concern, but hes also being overlooked because of his lack of offensive upside. If his body can hang with NBA bigs I like his potential to be a really nice defensive role player. Its also key if he measures out at his listed 6'11, because that would allow him to spend a lot of time at C.

As a final note, I do think Henson's base/center of gravity is a question mark and could cause for him to get thrown around like Wright has been. I don't see that issue with AD.
 
I was only trying to get across that with how small Davis is, I don't think he can make that great of an impact as a post player in the NBA. I have no reason to believe he will gain strength/mass, no player that skinny has succeeded in that regard as far as I can tell. They always stay about the same size, no matter how hard they try. He'll get pushed around and probably broken.
 
I was only trying to get across that with how small Davis is, I don't think he can make that great of an impact as a post player in the NBA. I have no reason to believe he will gain strength/mass, no player that skinny has succeeded in that regard as far as I can tell. They always stay about the same size, no matter how hard they try. He'll get pushed around and probably broken.

Yep, no one puts on strength and mass after they're 19.

He might get pushed around plenty as a rookie, but he's only going to get bigger and stronger as an NBA player.
 
I'm sorry, but The HCP thinks this Robinson kid is Michael Beasley all over again!
 
I think at #6 he'd be worth it. I don't see how the guy will bust, but then again, I didn't think Beasley would bust, either.

Rather take him at #6 than make a decision at #2, though. Outside of Davis, I don't think any player is a sure thing in this draft.

I don't necessarily think Beasley is a bust though...He is actually a decent player...worthy of where he was picked? No...

I think the off court\mental issues are what have hampered him more than anything...the talent is there it is just all of the other shit that is keeping him from being the player he could be....

Not sure about Robinson's make up, but if he somehow slid to #6, I'd have no problem with POR picking him...I think he could be a good fit next to LA....

Yeah, no sure things, but I definitely think a few years from now there wil be some star caliber players besides Davis out of this draft for sure...
 

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