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the only issue with AI that I have is he is too short to defend 2s and shouldn't really play the point. He can be very good, but its hard to put the right guard around him.
 
Plus, I'm not too worried about giving up so much. With the way the draft is going, I think it's very likely that the players I want fall to me.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 30 2008, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrandKenyon6 @ Jul 30 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 30 2008, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would have taken Iverson if Arenas was gone by my pick.

However, I had Iverson last year and nobody liked my team because of him.

*shrug*</div>

The reasons people dislike AI are understandable, but he plays hard every game, wears his heart on his sleeve, and is a competitor. If a superstar is available at pick 38, you take him.
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I think AI is very popular with both the fans and the media. His toughness and tenacity has completely overtaken his earlier immaturity and his image has changed a lot over the years.

His shooting percentage, on the other hand, is something that's harder to live with.
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He shot 46% last season and was 3rd in the league in scoring. 7+ APG and 2 SPG, too.

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Yep. He's good. I'm curious to see what the rest of GK6's team will look like.
 
Last chance if you want to make a trade. Give me one more minute.
 
Ace, look at my trade and look at yours.

You got hosed. Why would you want to move down that far for an extra 9th round pick?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ace, look at my trade and look at yours.

You got hosed. Why would you want to move down that far for an extra 9th round pick?</div>
Thats what I was looking for. I think its fair. You ripped off Dino
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jul 30 2008, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ace, look at my trade and look at yours.

You got hosed. Why would you want to move down that far for an extra 9th round pick?</div>
Thats what I was looking for. I think its fair. You ripped off Dino
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9th round picks are not very important.

This is a terrible trade. At least GK6 got a star player.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jul 30 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ace, look at my trade and look at yours.

You got hosed. Why would you want to move down that far for an extra 9th round pick?</div>
Thats what I was looking for. I think its fair. You ripped off Dino
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I would have given you my 3rd 6th move you higher at the 5th and take your 12 for something else....



guess you really wanted a 2nd.
 
Why did you have so much trouble finding a player that fits with Brandon Roy?

He's such a versatile guy. There are a lot of great options available!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why did you have so much trouble finding a player that fits with Brandon Roy?

He's such a versatile guy. There are a lot of great options available!</div>
Its not that. I wanted to get a better pick in the later rounds and stay in the 2nd.
 
The trade is fair, compared to some other trades done here earlier.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The trade is fair, compared to some other trades done here earlier.</div>

Explain how it's fair.
 
Alright, picked Chandler, had at least 4 other guys I was thinking about but need to get the PF/C position cleared early, especially with Chandler still being available.


Just talked to Wade, he's very happy, already in the gym working out, getting ready for the season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The trade is fair, compared to some other trades done here earlier.</div>

Explain how it's fair.
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Easy, his pick was 11 picks earlier than mine, not that big of a difference, plus now he gets another pick three rounds earlier.


Now explain yours where you get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for basically trading 2nd and 8th. Look at them over and tell me which one is more fair.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jul 30 2008, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tyson Chandler was going to be one of my choices too.</div>

Yeah, I'm going to kick myself for not picking someone else, who was very high on my list, (still are but will be picked in the next few picks I bet), but Chandler is still a great pick to be paired with Wade.
 
Probably wouldnt have pick him this earlier. I had alot others higher on my list.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The trade is fair, compared to some other trades done here earlier.</div>

Explain how it's fair.
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Easy, his pick was 11 picks earlier than mine, not that big of a difference, plus now he gets another pick three rounds earlier.


Now explain yours where you get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for basically trading 2nd and 8th. Look at them over and tell me which one is more fair.
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Mine is more fair because he got Allen Iverson, a superstar Hall-of Famer who was 3rd in the league in scoring, and a player like that will not be available at my new spot in the second round.

I didn't want to trade it at all, so he had to keep making offers until I had to make the deal. He overpaid, IMO.

The 12 spots you moved up are infinitely more valuable than the difference between pick 249 and 340.

Here's last year's draft. Take a look at those two picks. Those rounds are crapshoots.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The trade is fair, compared to some other trades done here earlier.</div>

Explain how it's fair.
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Easy, his pick was 11 picks earlier than mine, not that big of a difference, plus now he gets another pick three rounds earlier.


Now explain yours where you get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for basically trading 2nd and 8th. Look at them over and tell me which one is more fair.
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Mine is more fair because he got Allen Iverson, a superstar Hall-of Famer who was 3rd in the league in scoring, and a player like that will not be available at my new spot in the second round.

I didn't want to trade it at all, so he had to keep making offers until I had to make the deal. He overpaid, IMO.

The 12 spots you moved up are infinitely more valuable than the difference between pick 249 and 340.

Here's last year's draft. Take a look at those two picks. Those rounds are crapshoots.
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Not more valuable than getting a 2nd and 3rd rounder for 2nd and 8th rounder. Thats where the value is, and the deal wasn't fair at all IMO.

You also saw that I didn't say I word either, until "our" trade got picked on for no reason.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jul 30 2008, 02:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Probably wouldnt have pick him this earlier. I had alot others higher on my list.</div>

I had other players as well, but decided on him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 30 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The trade is fair, compared to some other trades done here earlier.</div>

Explain how it's fair.
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Easy, his pick was 11 picks earlier than mine, not that big of a difference, plus now he gets another pick three rounds earlier.


Now explain yours where you get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for basically trading 2nd and 8th. Look at them over and tell me which one is more fair.
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Mine is more fair because he got Allen Iverson, a superstar Hall-of Famer who was 3rd in the league in scoring, and a player like that will not be available at my new spot in the second round.

I didn't want to trade it at all, so he had to keep making offers until I had to make the deal. He overpaid, IMO.

The 12 spots you moved up are infinitely more valuable than the difference between pick 249 and 340.

Here's last year's draft. Take a look at those two picks. Those rounds are crapshoots.
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Not more valuable than getting a 2nd and 3rd rounder for 2nd and 8th rounder. Thats where the value is, and the deal wasn't fair at all IMO.

You also saw that I didn't say I word either, until "our" trade got picked on for no reason.


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You think I took advantage of GK6? He knows what he's doing. I didn't want to trade at all.

Ask him. I didn't make him one offer. He just kept PMing me better deals.

In my view, you swapped picks for nothing because ace couldn't decide who he wanted. 9th rounders and 12th rounders are equally worthless. I would have just left this alone.
 
Jesus. Don't post names of undrafted players.
 
Why would you trade for if you didnt want to do it? I think you couldn't decide. I could have easily picked.
 
Just leave it ghoti, you'll get nowhere with this. Just like you think it was a great deal for you and GK6, me and ace think it was a good deal for us. Thats all it matters.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jul 30 2008, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would you trade for if you didnt want to do it? I think you couldn't decide. I could have easily picked.</div>

I think you should have picked.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jul 30 2008, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would you trade for if you didnt want to do it? I think you couldn't decide. I could have easily picked.</div>

I think you should have picked.
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I am GM of the Hawks. I make my own decisions.
 
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