OT NBA Players who won't "break out" or will regress or bust this season?

[SwissBlazer]

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regress

Duncan will never regress

 

[riverman]

Duncan will never regress

That pic was probably the moment Duncan decided to retire a year earlier than he'd said before...one year with y'know who and he'd had enough...quit while basketball was still fun!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Im gonna get alot of hate on here for this one, but Jordan Bell will be a bust. Thomas Robinson type of bust

Bell is really in a can't fail situation. No one expects him to score and with all the offensive firepower GSW has, he won't need to. Shit, he only averaged 5 ppg in summer league, but all we heard about was how great his defense was. Meanwhile, Zach Collins averaged 6.7 ppg and played really good defense, but all we heard about was how much of a bust he is and who we should have drafted instead - AFTER ONE SUMMER LEAGUE GAME.

It's all about expectations (and around here, personal agenda). Collins, at 19 with 1-year of college experience, was chosen 10th. So, people (especially in this forum) expect him to be a great 2-way player and contribute immediately. Bell was a second round pick. So, in spite of being three full years older with three years of college experience, if he doesn't score and blocks a few shots, people will be all gaga over him and pissed off that we didn't pick him.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Hayward. He was the product of a team concept and environment. He ill not fit in near as well as Boston thinks, and will struggle to be a solid, consistent contributor.

Disgaree. In terms of team concept and environment, I think Brad Stevens knows how to get more out of Gordon Hayward than anyone on the planet. They came THIS close to winning it all in the NCAA Final Four:



Yeah, it was a last second half court heave, but the fact that Butler was that close to beating Duke speaks volumes for the Stevens/Hayward combination. Tiny Butler almost upset mighty Duke and a roster loaded with blue chip recruits.

Even if Hayward doesn't score quite as much in BOS as he did in UTA, BOS has Jalen Brown and Jayson Tatum both ready to pick up any slack. The Celtics will miss Avery Bradley's defense, but with the additions of Hayward and Tatum and a year of improvement from Jalen Brown, they should be more than fine in the ever increasingly shitty Eastern Conference.

BNM

 

[lawai'a]

Im gonna get alot of hate on here for this one, but Jordan Bell will be a bust. Thomas Robinson type of bust

A couple players that will regress...

Westbrick. He will not average another double double and his efficiency will be even worse this year, than last.

Hayward. He was the product of a team concept and environment. He ill not fit in near as well as Boston thinks, and will struggle to be a solid, consistent contributor.

Isiah Thomas will also regress along with Horford.

The Boston Team as a whole, while looking better on paper, will be worse than last year.

Paul Milsap signs new big and probably last major contract and becomes a fraction of what he was in Atlanta. (This will help us immensely)

yea on the Millsap part. his 3pt pct. declined again, his rebound pct took a real hit last season to a very mediocre 12.5%. maybe DHoward impacted that some. time on the 3pt line hoisting up 3.5 a game/hitting 31%last year and 32% the season before probably doesn't make Denver better than the blazers. I think he declines significantly.

 

[lawai'a]

Disgaree. In terms of team concept and environment, I think Brad Stevens knows how to get more out of Gordon Hayward than anyone on the planet. They came THIS close to winning it all in the NCAA Final Four:



Yeah, it was a last second half court heave, but the fact that Butler was that close to beating Duke speaks volumes for the Stevens/Hayward combination. Tiny Butler almost upset mighty Duke and a roster loaded with blue chip recruits.

Even if Hayward doesn't score quite as much in BOS as he did in UTA, BOS has Jalen Brown and Jayson Tatum both ready to pick up any slack. The Celtics will miss Avery Bradley's defense, but with the additions of Hayward and Tatum and a year of improvement from Jalen Brown, they should be more than fine in the ever increasingly shitty Eastern Conference.

BNM

don't forget our own cj upsetting #2 duke.

 

[Boob-No-More]

yea on the Millsap part. his 3pt pct. declined again, his rebound pct took a real hit last season to a very mediocre 12.5%. maybe DHoward impacted that some. time on the 3pt line hoisting up 3.5 a game/hitting 31%last year and 32% the season before probably doesn't make Denver better than the blazers. I think he declines significantly.

DEN was smart to make the third year of his $90 million contract a team option. They basically overpay him for two years and if he drops off they can cut him loose after two years.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

don't forget our own cj upsetting #2 duke.

Talk about pedigree! That Duke team had two Plumlees, a Curry and a Rivers, and they STILL couldn't beat one McCollum!

BNM

 

[Orion Bailey]

Since when do players picked in the 2nd round "bust" ? Robinson was picked #5, ahead of Lillard, so I don't really get the comparison...

Only comparing them because of this forum and how some have long thought that Trob was the man. Alot of people on here think he will be good and thought we should have took him. The more of his play I have seen I think he doesn't make it.

Bell is really in a can't fail situation. No one expects him to score and with all the offensive firepower GSW has, he won't need to. Shit, he only averaged 5 ppg in summer league, but all we heard about was how great his defense was. Meanwhile, Zach Collins averaged 6.7 ppg and played really good defense, but all we heard about was how much of a bust he is and who we should have drafted instead - AFTER ONE SUMMER LEAGUE GAME.

It's all about expectations (and around here, personal agenda). Collins, at 19 with 1-year of college experience, was chosen 10th. So, people (especially in this forum) expect him to be a great 2-way player and contribute immediately. Bell was a second round pick. So, in spite of being three full years older with three years of college experience, if he doesn't score and blocks a few shots, people will be all gaga over him and pissed off that we didn't pick him.

BNM

My fault was thinking the expectations here, not nationally. Here many think Bell will be good. I disagree and say he is out of the league in three years.

 

[Minstrel]

My fault was thinking the expectations here, not nationally. Here many think Bell will be good. I disagree and say he is out of the league in three years.

I think he'll be a Tristan Thompson type player, except better at switching every position. I think he'll be great at switching, a good shot-blocker and rebounder and will get you some garbage points. I definitely don't see him out of the league in a few years--he won't be a star, but I think he'll be a high-caliber supporting player.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think he'll be a Tristan Thompson type player, except better at switching every position. I think he'll be great at switching, a good shot-blocker and rebounder and will get you some garbage points. I definitely don't see him out of the league in a few years--he won't be a star, but I think he'll be a high-caliber supporting player.

And that's my point. Many people see him as that. I see him out of the league in three years. Hence a bust compared to most peoples predictions/opinions.

 

[H.C.]

Only comparing them because of this forum and how some have long thought that Trob was the man. Alot of people on here think he will be good and thought we should have took him. The more of his play I have seen I think he doesn't make it.



My fault was thinking the expectations here, not nationally. Here many think Bell will be good. I disagree and say he is out of the league in three years.

I'm not sure Bell will be out of the league in 3 years simply because players like him have shown to get 2nd and 3rd chances at the minimum after their rookie contract is up.
However I do have serious questions about his strength.
The zone OU played thoughout the season, matchup or not did well to hide his strength. However(sprained ankle or not) Bell let his man push him under the basket on a basic FT three times in a row.
imo has serious questions about if he can play against NBA comp. Just like Collins.

However this forum seems to think Bell was a can't-miss-prospect.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Disgaree. In terms of team concept and environment, I think Brad Stevens knows how to get more out of Gordon Hayward than anyone on the planet. They came THIS close to winning it all in the NCAA Final Four:
Yeah, it was a last second half court heave, but the fact that Butler was that close to beating Duke speaks volumes for the Stevens/Hayward combination. Tiny Butler almost upset mighty Duke

CJ says hello

 

[RR7]

CJ says hello

Wow, people complain about the NBA, that video started with 3:08 of game time, I saw it was 19 minutes long, figured it would show a lot of celebration, interviews, etc. Nope. 19 minutes to finish the last 3 minutes of that game.

 

[calvin natt]

Jordan Bell is an ideal 2nd round pick. He will have no pressure whatsoever, plays hard, he's athletic and can watch a guy like Draymond, another 2nd rounder who people thought wouldn't last, impact the game is a bunch of different ways.

 

[Jade Falcon]

CJ says hello

Wow. I don't watch college basketball, but there's a lot of big names in that game: Curry, McCollum, Rivers, and the Plumlee brothers.

And wow....Lehigh likes some big girls, lol.

....not that there's anything wrong with that....