NBA Playoffs Thread - Play-in and 1st round edition

[DDolla]

Murray should be there instead of Barnes… Brown’s mistake

 

[PCmor7]

To each their own. I love her commentary.

It's not to each their own. You can love her all you want. That's subjective. Objectively, as a commentator, she's bad.

She's a fangirl. She gushes over her favorites over any little thing they do. Constantly. And she can do that to a degree if she adds strong insight in her analysis, but she doesn't. Her play-by-play partner actually did some of the color on the Kings-Warriors game at times.

It's the equivalent to listening to a somewhat informed fan.

Here's the worst of it, though; she basically said yesterday that Dillon Brooks was a bad player, that he wasn't athletic nor could he shoot. That came right with her line from "The Wire," which I did find clever.

That's bad for even a team's announcer. For a national announcer? That's just wrong. You can pick sides in your own head. You can call out dirty play. You can't make a player your target because he said something you didn't like about a player you like, though. It's unprofessional, whether you like her or not.

 

[blazerkor]

It's not to each their own. You can love her all you want. That's subjective. Objectively, as a commentator, she's bad.

She's a fangirl. She gushes over her favorites over any little thing they do. Constantly. And she can do that to a degree if she adds strong insight in her analysis, but she doesn't. Her play-by-play partner actually did some of the color on the Kings-Warriors game at times.

It's the equivalent to listening to a somewhat informed fan.

Here's the worst of it, though; she basically said yesterday that Dillon Brooks was a bad player, that he wasn't athletic nor could he shoot. That came right with her line from "The Wire," which I did find clever.

That's bad for even a team's announcer. For a national announcer? That's just wrong. You can pick sides in your own head. You can call out dirty play. You can't make a player your target because he said something you didn't like about a player you like, though. It's unprofessional, whether you like her or not.

You didn't make one point that was objective.

 

[THE HCP]

You at a hockey game? THAT’S different. Great atmosphere

I’m not sure what that is.

 

[THE HCP]

Crazy that the Clippers may lose in the first round after being picked by most to win the west. All that depth might not have helped.

Nah that depth got them into the playoffs missing their stars all season.

 

[PCmor7]

You didn't make one point that was objective.

Apparently, you don't know what objective is, or what being a journalist is.

She picked a side. Objectively, she picked a side. Objectively, she targeted a player because of something he said that she subjectively didn't agree with. Objectively, that's unprofessional.

Tell you what, Blazerkor, go look up in a dictionary what objective is and then get back to me then. Otherwise, stop being butthurt because you had a bad take on here the other day, I called you on it and you couldn't respond.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Change the first round back to the best of 5. 7 games in the first round is too much.

 

[THE HCP]

You are correct, my bad. Better get something than nothing. Forgot we have a cheap owner

How can you “forget”, you literally post about that everyday bro.

 

[THE HCP]

Warriors got LUCKY.

Nah, Kings shit the bed.

 

[blazerkor]

Apparently, you don't know what objective is, or what being a journalist is.

She picked a side. Objectively, she picked a side. Objectively, she targeted a player because of something he said that she subjectively didn't agree with. Objectively, that's unprofessional.

Tell you what, Blazerkor, go look up in a dictionary what objective is and then get back to me then. Otherwise, stop being butthurt because you had a bad take on here the other day, I called you on it and you couldn't respond.

So you don't seem to understand what the definition of objective is so here it is as far as the context you're using it in:

Expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations.

You aren't using facts to back up what you are saying they are all opinions about what being a journalist is or even the idea that a commentator for a sporting event is a journalist before being an entertainer. Honestly I don't disagree with you that Doris Burke is very hit and miss for me but that's an opinion.

Just because you have an informed opinion doesn't mean it becomes a fact or an objective reality.

Edit: Oh and I'm not sure what post or response from you that you're talking about. To me you're just another person on here that posts. I don't think you're specifically good or bad at it. No hard feelings at all.

 

[THE HCP]

Change the first round back to the best of 5. 7 games in the first round is too much.

Less basketball? Yeah that’s not a good idea.

 

[DDolla]

Jaylen Brown is that player we need

 

[BBert]

Hart was about to become a Free Agent and is said to have been unlikely to resign. If so, would you rather Joe have got something in return for him like he did or kept him for the remainder of the season and got nothing?

STOMP

And a worse lottery pick. Hell we might not even have been in the lottery.

 

[theprunetang]

It's not to each their own. You can love her all you want. That's subjective. Objectively, as a commentator, she's bad.

She's a fangirl. She gushes over her favorites over any little thing they do. Constantly. And she can do that to a degree if she adds strong insight in her analysis, but she doesn't. Her play-by-play partner actually did some of the color on the Kings-Warriors game at times.

It's the equivalent to listening to a somewhat informed fan.

Here's the worst of it, though; she basically said yesterday that Dillon Brooks was a bad player, that he wasn't athletic nor could he shoot. That came right with her line from "The Wire," which I did find clever.

That's bad for even a team's announcer. For a national announcer? That's just wrong. You can pick sides in your own head. You can call out dirty play. You can't make a player your target because he said something you didn't like about a player you like, though. It's unprofessional, whether you like her or not.

Actually it is "to each their own". I think she is a fantastic announcer and I enjoy listening to her call games. You don't get to choose how I feel about her announcing, and I don't really appreciate your pretentious and condescending tone here. You are simply stating your opinion and calling it fact.

 

[Phatguysrule]

So do you think the pick, and what can be done with it is more valuable than Josh Hart coming off the bench?

serious question

No. If we could have convinced Hart to stay in Portland that would have been the right move. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like he was interested in that.

 

[illmatic99]

still no one has posted the link to the interview that suggests Hart would not have re-signed here. Like 20 posters have referenced this.

i'm genuinely asking for this. anyone have it?

 

[blazerkor]

still no one has posted the link to the interview that suggests Hart would not have re-signed here. Like 20 posters have referenced this.

i'm genuinely asking for this. anyone have it?

I don't think Josh ever said anything about it. I think it was reports from "journalists" about his wife not liking to fly and them not wanting to relocate from the east coast due to family and friends being out there. It doesn't seem like it's Hart's style to undermine his trade value by talking to the media about that type of situation. So I think what you're getting at is that this is all conjecture but most of what all of us do as fans is just speculation based on loosely sourced reports.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Kind of interesting thing I’ve noticed about Minny. They can go on runs where they look really good. Just can’t seem to sustain it?

 

[illmatic99]

this is a ridiculous collapse.

like tmac's 13 in 30 seconds kinda stuff.

minny is gonna implode if they drop this one.

 

[HailBlazers]

You are simply stating your opinion and calling it fact.

That never happens on S2.

 

[illmatic99]

one jokic FT miss away from one of the worst playoff chokejobs in recent NBA history.

 

[DDolla]

Blazers Legend Nickel Alexander-Walker

 

[PCmor7]

So you don't seem to understand what the definition of objective is so here it is as far as the context you're using it in:

Expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations.

You aren't using facts to back up what you are saying they are all opinions about what being a journalist is or even the idea that a commentator for a sporting event is a journalist before being an entertainer. Honestly I don't disagree with you that Doris Burke is very hit and miss for me but that's an opinion.

Just because you have an informed opinion doesn't mean it becomes a fact or an objective reality.

Edit: Oh and I'm not sure what post or response from you that you're talking about. To me you're just another person on here that posts. I don't think you're specifically good or bad at it. No hard feelings at all.

I absolutely used facts to back up what I said.

I said Burke said Brooks wasn't a good athlete or a good shooter. I said she targeted him. Those aren't based on personal feelings, prejudices or interpretations. She actually did that.



Here she is yesterday with a word salad, contradicting herself in one sentence.



Also, it is entirely unprofessional to cook a player for an opinion quote of his about a player she obviously favors ... no, I can't go back and give you data for how many times she touts LeBron v how many times she criticizes him ... but, as an impartial, unbiased journalist, that's not in her purview. That's not subjective. It's something you learn not to do in journalism school.

Also, and I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about because you liked a post coming to your defense when you said Dame has said multiple times this offseason about not wanting to play with younger players ... except you didn't answer the question where I quoted you, asking where Dame said that other than the exit press conference. I find it very unlikely that you missed the question direct toward you but saw (and liked) someone else answering it for you.

 

[DDolla]

Denver vs Suns will be an EPIC Battle

 

[DDolla]

Maybe Shaedon Sharpe can be our Anthony Edwards

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't think Josh ever said anything about it. I think it was reports from "journalists" about his wife not liking to fly and them not wanting to relocate from the east coast due to family and friends being out there. It doesn't seem like it's Hart's style to undermine his trade value by talking to the media about that type of situation. So I think what you're getting at is that this is all conjecture but most of what all of us do as fans is just speculation based on loosely sourced reports.

I remember he spoke to local media when the Knicks, and he, came to Portland and said essentially the same things...maybe that's where those quotes are from

and I'm pretty sure Cronin implied that the Blazers got something for a player that would likely leave. Now part of that was probably based upon having to re-sign him and the Vulcans pinching pennies

 

[Chris Craig]

Minnesota survives to fight another day...Tuesday.

 

[theprunetang]

I said Burke said Brooks wasn't a good athlete or a good shooter.

Where's the lie? Brooks is a good defender, but he is ass as a shooter and isn't particularly athletic.

 

[PCmor7]

Actually it is "to each their own". I think she is a fantastic announcer and I enjoy listening to her call games. You don't get to choose how I feel about her announcing, and I don't really appreciate your pretentious and condescending tone here. You are simply stating your opinion and calling it fact.

I actually said just the opposite of what you're attributing to me. I said you can feel about her and her announcing however you want, but, objectively, she is not good.

I stated opinion but I also backed it up with fact.

What you do or don't appreciate about my posting is irrelevant. I don't believe I quoted you when I made my post about Burke. You inserted yourself in defending her. I explained why that had no bearing on her being objectively poor at her job and that your liking her was your own business but had no objective bearing on whether she was a good announcer or not. I don't know if you're her dad or what, but you keep coming back with the same stuff.

I guess I could say I don't appreciate being questioned about my opinion by a random poster with an opinion who I wasn't talking to, but that'd be equivalent to what you're doing. You think I'm being condescending and pretentious, well, I guess it's OK if I say this then: Come with better takes and read the posts to which you're responding more thoroughly; sometimes what you see as being condescended to is actually you not taking care of your own end of the discussion.

 

[theprunetang]

I actually said just the opposite of what you're attributing to me. I said you can feel about her and her announcing however you want, but, objectively, she is not good.

I stated opinion but I also backed it up with fact.

What you do or don't appreciate about my posting is irrelevant. I don't believe I quoted you when I made my post about Burke. You inserted yourself in defending her. I explained why that had no bearing on her being objectively poor at her job and that your liking her was your own business but had no objective bearing on whether she was a good announcer or not. I don't know if you're her dad or what, but you keep coming back with the same stuff.

I guess I could say I don't appreciate being questioned about my opinion by a random poster with an opinion who I wasn't talking to, but that'd be equivalent to what you're doing. You think I'm being condescending and pretentious, well, I guess it's OK if I say this then: Come with better takes and read the posts to which you're responding more thoroughly; sometimes what you see as being condescended to is actually you not taking care of your own end of the discussion.

You are acting like you and you alone get to decide what the objective truth is. It is a logical fallacy. Your argument has no merit.