Neil Olshey Hate Coming Soon

[Schilly]

You just figured out that someone will be held responsible for his actions the previous summer? Have you ever held a job?

Accountable for what? Essentially bringing back the same team that was very promising and fairly successful, exceeding expectations last season? If this team were on pace for 50 wins nobody would care about the money that was spent on Turner and Crabbe and let's be honest the money spent on Harkless and Leonard is basically market value or even better for their roles.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Accountable for what? Essentially bringing back the same team that was very promising and fairly successful, exceeding expectations last season? If this team were on pace for 50 wins nobody would care about the money that was spent on Turner and Crabbe and let's be honest the money spent on Harkless and Leonard is basically market value or even better for their roles.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

A "Must-read" for those who want to know how trades actually go down:
http://hoopshype.com/2017/02/21/this-is-how-trades-go-down-in-the-nba/

Good read! Thanks for sharing.

 

[Binx]

I remember when the Blazers used to pull off big trades. I miss those days.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Accountable for what? Essentially bringing back the same team that was very promising and fairly successful, exceeding expectations last season? If this team were on pace for 50 wins nobody would care about the money that was spent on Turner and Crabbe and let's be honest the money spent on Harkless and Leonard is basically market value or even better for their roles.

Schilly, you know last years team was a fluke. The GM should have known that as well.

 

[Denny Crane]

A "Must-read" for those who want to know how trades actually go down:
http://hoopshype.com/2017/02/21/this-is-how-trades-go-down-in-the-nba/

Even better:

Also, it’s important to remember that NBA players are people. Relationships behind the scenes can complicate a trade. When a fan is toying with the trade machine, they aren’t looking at each player as a human. Meanwhile, an executive may see someone who has a growing family, someone who has greatly helped team chemistry, someone who is an important leader in the locker room, someone who has more value to that organization than they would to another team in a trade, someone who has shown tremendous growth over the years or someone who may be just on the verge of breaking out and everyone around the organization sees it.​

 

[BrianFromWA]

Well, when your philosophy is this:

"It doesn't matter, it really doesn't matter," Olshey told reporters, referring to Batum's pricetag. "Let us worry about the money. You guys write about the players and the team and how well or how poorly we play and how guys are developing. We'll worry about how we manage our cap and how guys get paid. Guys' values are based on what they bring to the team, and I can assure you Nicolas will absolutely live up to this contract."

Insert Ed, Chief, Crabbe, Hark, Leonard, Ezeli. Let's look at how poorly we're playing and how (poorly) guys are developing, and then we'll ask why you're in position to have to attach draft picks to salaries to be dumped (or lose flexibility in making trades for good players) due to your cap management.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

A "Must-read" for those who want to know how trades actually go down:
http://hoopshype.com/2017/02/21/this-is-how-trades-go-down-in-the-nba/

I can't believe they didn't include trade suggestions on team forums.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The veterans of this little Trail Blazers community know its coming. If Olshey cant pull off at least one lopsided trade in our favor there will be a flood of Neil bashing. If he cant trade Meyers and a draft pick for Paul George or Ezeli and a draft pick for Okafor, Neil will be the worst GM in Blazers history. Because it's always our GM's fault that other GM's wont help us out and take our trash for their treasure. Let the unrealistic bashing begin!

Soon? I take it you haven't been following the forum much for the last two months...

BNM

 

[Schilly]

Schilly, you know last years team was a fluke. The GM should have known that as well.

I know the playoffs were a fluke, knew that at the time. But after the season and until they started laying eggs this season I was pretty sure we'd be pushing 50 wins this season. Why wouldn't young guys get better?

 

[Reep]

Even better:

Also, it’s important to remember that NBA players are people. Relationships behind the scenes can complicate a trade. When a fan is toying with the trade machine, they aren’t looking at each player as a human. Meanwhile, an executive may see someone who has a growing family, someone who has greatly helped team chemistry, someone who is an important leader in the locker room, someone who has more value to that organization than they would to another team in a trade, someone who has shown tremendous growth over the years or someone who may be just on the verge of breaking out and everyone around the organization sees it.​

I appreciate the sentiment, but with today's NBA salaries I don't much care about how they move their family from one mansion to another. The players get paid millions of dollars to help the team win. If they aren't winning then I don't really care how nice they are in the locker room or how much they have grown as a person.

 

[chzbrgr]

NO has been very good in the "Asset Collection" phase. It's clear this deadline that HE thinks we're still in it.

uhhh have you seen production on the court that would make you think otherwise? we have like 4-5 NBA caliber players on the entire roster

 

[riverman]

I don't blame Olshey for Crabbe, Leonard, Davis, Vonleh and to some extent Harkless not making strides towards being quality starters or at least fighting for a spot..I think the front office is disappointed to some extent just like fans are...Neil thought Crabbe and Leonard would become double double guys....I did to. It's on the players in my view for not living up to their contracts. We have no players avg double doubles on the roster...that doesn't win championships usually

 

[jlprk]

Accountable for what? Essentially bringing back the same team that was very promising and fairly successful, exceeding expectations last season? If this team were on pace for 50 wins nobody would care about the money that was spent on Turner and Crabbe and let's be honest the money spent on Harkless and Leonard is basically market value or even better for their roles.

So if the market value for a Maserati is $500,000, you'll go into debt one summer to buy it, then in February when you can't pay the sales tax, cry, "But it was market value!"

The fact that someone paid "market value" is irrelevant if it exceeds his budget.

And if we won 50 games but Paul Allen had to pay the $30M luxury tax next season, I guarantee that at least one person would care, negating your statement.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

So if the market value for a Maserati is $500,000, you'll go into debt one summer to buy it, then in February when you can't pay the sales tax, cry, "But it was market value!"

The fact that someone paid "market value" is irrelevant if it exceeds his budget.

And if we won 50 games but Paul Allen had to pay the $30M luxury tax next season, I guarantee that at least one person would care, negating your statement.

I think the idea is to turn around and flip the Mazerati for $500,000, and maybe a toaster. If you do this, market value matters.

 

[Minstrel]

I think the idea is to turn around and flip the Mazerati for $500,000, and maybe a toaster. If you do this, market value matters.

You just have to hope you didn't buy a Camry for $500k.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

You just have to hope you didn't buy a Camry for $500k.

He actually bought a used Pinto for $500k, but if that's the market price, and he can get his $$ + more, then it was a good investment.

 

[Minstrel]

He actually bought a used Pinto for $500k, but if that's the market price, and he can get his $$ + more, then it was a good investment.

Yeah, but that's not market price for a used Pinto. If you go out today and buy a used Pinto for $500k, you didn't just set "market price," you got took.

So we have to hope that Olshey didn't get took, eh?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Yeah, but that's not market price for a used Pinto. If you go out today and buy a used Pinto for $500k, you didn't just set "market price," you got took.

So we have to hope that Olshey didn't get took, eh?

This, I couldn't have put it more clearly. However, the same is true of every transaction.

 

[jlprk]

"Market value" is set by the market, in this case the half-dozen GMs who paid double the usual last summer. Olshey was one of that small group. He was a large part of setting the new market values.

If 15 Pintos are on sale in the summer, and I offer $17.5M for one, and a tiny number of other GMs do the same, claiming that now, this is the new market price, thus making their own statement true...it's a lie to claim the next February, "But I was forced! I just paid the market value!"

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[jlprk]

Note the similarity of dates. The trade deadline was right after Canzano's twitter of Feb. 19, 2009. I registered here 7 months later. When I started a thread on ESPN titled ""Fire Pritchard" at exactly the noon deadline when it became obvious that he was the world's worst trader, I took shit from the pimply squeeky middle school moderator until I quit. The tot even kept wiping out Gramps' game that I was running, pissing off the 15-20 consistent participants we had.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I don't blame Olshey for Crabbe, Leonard, Davis, Vonleh and to some extent Harkless not making strides towards being quality starters or at least fighting for a spot..I think the front office is disappointed to some extent just like fans are...Neil thought Crabbe and Leonard would become double double guys....I did to. It's on the players in my view for not living up to their contracts. We have no players avg double doubles on the roster...that doesn't win championships usually

It's not Olshey or any other Blazers GM in the past. It's daddy worbucks Paul Allen. He loves the draft and he loves his young players.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

That Crapzano mistake retweet made my day.

 

[Mediocre Man]

That Crapzano mistake retweet made my day.

At least his mistake isn't starting at center tonight. If indeed John Holmes starts

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Remember, trades can be announced an hour or more past noon today. The league could be backed up in approving deals.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Remember, trades can be announced an hour or more past noon today. The league could be backed up in approving deals.

Also remember that some GM's don't like to be stuck in purgatory like ours does.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

 

[tester551]

I don't blame Olshey for Crabbe, Leonard, Davis, Vonleh and to some extent Harkless not making strides towards being quality starters or at least fighting for a spot..I think the front office is disappointed to some extent just like fans are...Neil thought Crabbe and Leonard would become double double guys....I did to. It's on the players in my view for not living up to their contracts. We have no players avg double doubles on the roster...that doesn't win championships usually

That's a damning statement if I've ever read one.
There is no way in hell I would ever see either one becoming double double guys.

 

[Natebishop3]

Getting fired from your shitty radio show.....