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I don't think there's any way you mess with the starting five. They work far too well together. I think you tinker with the bench.
 
magnifier661 said:
36 mins for Matthews and batum? I definitely don't like that idea at all. They are more effected by too much playing time, more so than Aldridge.
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Really? Neither of them are a focal point of the offense. Also, in blow-outs this would go down (hopefully we have a few next year), and if CJ or any of our other guys are decent at all we could give them a few more.
 
shamelessblazer said:
Really? Neither of them are a focal point of the offense. Also, in blow-outs this would go down (hopefully we have a few next year), and if CJ or any of our other guys are decent at all we could give them a few more.
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The year before this season, they averaged 36 minutes. Injuries and production dropped considerably by mid season.
 
magnifier661 said:
36 mins for Matthews and batum? I definitely don't like that idea at all. They are more effected by too much playing time, more so than Aldridge.
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He also only gave 32 to Lillard, 16 to CJ. Optimally, it'd probably be more like:

Lillard 24/Vasquez 24
Matthews 16/Lillard 12/CJ 20
Batum 32/Matthews 16

and then all of those reduced a touch to give minutes to Will and Crabbe.
 
I know this is a stretch but Leonard will be in his third year, usually when you start seeing young centers start being productive.

Who knows, maybe he can come in next season and be a big boost
 
magnifier661 said:
I know this is a stretch but Leonard will be in his third year, usually when you start seeing young centers start being productive.

Who knows, maybe he can come in next season and be a big boost
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we can always dream
 
magnifier661 said:
The year before this season, they averaged 36 minutes. Injuries and production dropped considerably by mid season.
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No, this year Batum averaged 36. Last year he was at 38.5. Wes has never averaged 36 mpg
 
PtldPlatypus said:
He also only gave 32 to Lillard, 16 to CJ. Optimally, it'd probably be more like:

Lillard 24/Vasquez 24
Matthews 16/Lillard 12/CJ 20
Batum 32/Matthews 16

and then all of those reduced a touch to give minutes to Will and Crabbe.
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I like this much better. 36 min for your superstars is fine
 
magnifier661 said:
I know this is a stretch but Leonard will be in his third year, usually when you start seeing young centers start being productive.

Who knows, maybe he can come in next season and be a big boost
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Honestly, at this point, I think I would cash in CJ and Leonard for a solid bench player. While I think we need to maintain some youth on the roster, I think we have a logjam of guards with Barton, CJ, and Crabbe. I wouldn't mind giving Claver some burn. I would try to move some of our young guys for another key contributor off the bench.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Honestly, at this point, I think I would cash in CJ and Leonard for a solid bench player.
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Agreed. If we could get good value for those two, I'd be on board.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Honestly, at this point, I think I would cash in CJ and Leonard for a solid bench player. While I think we need to maintain some youth on the roster, I think we have a logjam of guards with Barton, CJ, and Crabbe. I wouldn't mind giving Claver some burn. I would try to move some of our young guys for another key contributor off the bench.
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As always, depends on the return. I'm ok with trading anyone on the roster, for the right return.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Agreed. If we could get good value for those two, I'd be on board.
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I like CJ. I think he has a bright future, but our team is further along than I thought we'd be. We need more firepower off the bench.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I like CJ. I think he has a bright future, but our team is further along than I thought we'd be. We need more firepower off the bench.
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The one key is, with the new CBA, having cheap talent on hand. When half our team is up for new big deals in 2 years, would be nice having a true 6th man gunner off the bench in CJ(if he becomes that for us) versus also having to pay a 6th man a MLE-ish deal.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Honestly, at this point, I think I would cash in CJ and Leonard for a solid bench player. While I think we need to maintain some youth on the roster, I think we have a logjam of guards with Barton, CJ, and Crabbe. I wouldn't mind giving Claver some burn. I would try to move some of our young guys for another key contributor off the bench.
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To be honest, I would rather use Barton, Leonard and Crabbe as the moving piece. If we could find that defensive wing-type guard (preferably PG), I think that's one of the missing pieces. I still think CJ will do much better next season. He has the summer to work on his game, plus a full season to fully develop.
 
magnifier661 said:
To be honest, I would rather use Barton, Leonard and Crabbe as the moving piece. If we could find that defensive wing-type guard (preferably PG), I think that's one of the missing pieces. I still think CJ will do much better next season. He has the summer to work on his game, plus a full season to fully develop.
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You might be right, but CJ has more value than Barton. I really want a consistent gunner off the bench. Mo was too inconsistent. One guy that I would love to get is Rodney Stuckey. He can play both guard positions, but the guy is one of those unguardable players when he's hot. I think he'd be a great addition to our bench. I don't want to deal with the learning curves of a guy who is essentially still a rookie. I really think we could contend next year with the big boys, but we need to bolster the bench.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You might be right, but CJ has more value than Barton. I really want a consistent gunner off the bench. Mo was too inconsistent. One guy that I would love to get is Rodney Stuckey. He can play both guard positions, but the guy is one of those unguardable players when he's hot. I think he'd be a great addition to our bench. I don't want to deal with the learning curves of a guy who is essentially still a rookie. I really think we could contend next year with the big boys, but we need to bolster the bench.
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Ray Allen? I know he's old, but he is off contract. If Miami loses one of their BIG THREE this summer, he maybe available.
 
magnifier661 said:
Ray Allen? I know he's old, but he is off contract. If Miami loses one of their BIG THREE this summer, he maybe available.
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Too old. I think he's a guy you could get with the vet minimum. I'm talking about a real piece that could only be had via trade. Someone that could be a consistent spark off the bench. A Jamal Crawford type of player.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Too old. I think he's a guy you could get with the vet minimum. I'm talking about a real piece that could only be had via trade. Someone that could be a consistent spark off the bench. A Jamal Crawford type of player.
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But you need playoff experience IMO. As for Allen, I was just talking about giving him a vet min.

If there are players out there, I want to look at those that have been in a few rounds of playoffs. To take that next step, you need experience from your bench.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Too old. I think he's a guy you could get with the vet minimum. I'm talking about a real piece that could only be had via trade. Someone that could be a consistent spark off the bench. A Jamal Crawford type of player.
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I'm assuming Milwaukee would be happy to give away OJ Mayo. Can also play the 1/2 in a Crawford/Stuckey sort of fashion, and can be a microwave off the bench.
 
Trust in Olshey! Trust in Terry Stotts and Paul Allen. We are very, very lucky to have all of them
 
RR7 said:
I think stuckey maybe gets full MLE, but don't think he'll get more than that
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He's the kind of guy I would target, and then I'd look to get a vet point guard to spell Dame from time to time.

Like I said, I'd also like to make a push for Ariza.
 
magnifier661 said:
But is he obtainable? I would love him too.
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UFA so yes depending on offers.

As helpful as Wright has been during the playoffs, I would still replace him. Ariza would be an awesome replacement for Wright.
 
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