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This all confuses me. Could you help me out with what exactly this all means please?

I have Netflix I pay monthly at $13.99, does this mean I now have to pay the $13.99 +the $10 to access it? Also I use the free option for Pandora, Spotify and Iheart Radio, does this now mean their not free anymore and I would have to pay the $10 now each time I listened to music?

Thank you so much for your answer.
 
This all confuses me. Could you help me out with what exactly this all means please?

I have Netflix I pay monthly at $13.99, does this mean I now have to pay the $13.99 +the $10 to access it? Also I use the free option for Pandora, Spotify and Iheart Radio, does this now mean their not free anymore and I would have to pay the $10 now each time I listened to music?

Thank you so much for your answer.

That is just a fictitious picture to show what could happen.
 
That is just a fictitious picture to show what could happen.

Really? Damn it.

A co worker had said that he saw something about Netflix now charging a $1 a movie/ episode. Is any of that true? Would that be in addition to the monthly fee I already pay?
 
Really? Damn it.

A co worker had said that he saw something about Netflix now charging a $1 a movie/ episode. Is any of that true? Would that be in addition to the monthly fee I already pay?

Not true.
 
Ok! my turn.

Just listening to a discussion about net nuetrality on the radio just now. CA is now going to implement it's own version, err so is reported.

They say an ISP should not be able to block content nor throttle down delivery.
Now my question is unless the ISP has redundant hardware resources, how do they avoid throttling down the average through put when enough users stream large data sources like movies to exceed the system capacity?

You can not expect them to support and unknown number of source sending and unknown volume of data, to the maximum number of requestors. Hardware must be provide to serve the mean at a profitable price. Or did I miss something?
 
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Anyone arguing that ending Net Neutrality is a good thing, is highly delusional, and incredibly naive to think the ISPs, and those who monopolize and control them, will not abuse their new found powers. This is bad for everybody, except for the people running the 4 or 5 companies who own all of the ISPs available to U.S. consumers.

Don't be that guy. You are on the wrong side of history.
 
Anyone arguing that ending Net Neutrality is a good thing, is highly delusional, and incredibly naive to think the ISPs, and those who monopolize and control them, will not abuse their new found powers. This is bad for everybody, except for the people running the 4 or 5 companies who own all of the ISPs available to U.S. consumers.

Don't be that guy. You are on the wrong side of history.

Ok I wrong as hell. But can you answer my question?
 
I thought this was about the Russians owning the Brooklyn Nets
 
Damned if I see how you can view this as morality issue, a fairness issue, a freedom issue or...
It is a price for performance issue. But, I may have missed something! I do accept clues.
 
Damned if I see how you can view this as morality issue, a fairness issue, a freedom issue or...
It is a price for performance issue. But, I may have missed something! I do accept clues.

How is it price for performance? Elaborate please.
 
The biggest question is why we're going to let this happen under a 3-2 vote. What the fuck do we have congress for?

It has to go through congress still. The TV industry already paid 3 people at the head of the FCC so it was going to pass.

It wont pass the senate/congress. There would be such an outcry.

The -only- people it benefits is the corporations that will directly benefit from the repeal. That is literally it. No one else. If our congress does indeed pass this, they literally let 3 people dictate what happens to hundreds of millions.

What you do have to remember, though, is that much of congress is up for seats next year. It would behoove them to side with the public if they want their seats and their tax breaks and all the perks of being a puppet.

I am almost certain it wont pass. But if it does, watch out.

In this day and age, you can live without TV. But the internet is so ubiquitous with students/work/home that it would cause such an impact.... just watch out for the backlash.
 
It has to go through congress still. The TV industry already paid 3 people at the head of the FCC so it was going to pass.

It wont pass the senate/congress. There would be such an outcry.

The -only- people it benefits is the corporations that will directly benefit from the repeal. That is literally it. No one else. If our congress does indeed pass this, they literally let 3 people dictate what happens to hundreds of millions.

What you do have to remember, though, is that much of congress is up for seats next year. It would behoove them to side with the public if they want their seats and their tax breaks and all the perks of being a puppet.

I am almost certain it wont pass. But if it does, watch out.

In this day and age, you can live without TV. But the internet is so ubiquitous with students/work/home that it would cause such an impact.... just watch out for the backlash.
used to be able to see Sonny Liston fight Cassius Clay on free television...now it's all pay for view...people were outraged but it's still pay for view today
 
used to be able to see Sonny Liston fight Cassius Clay on free television...now it's all pay for view...people were outraged but it's still pay for view today

Has TV ever been viewed as a necessity though?
 
not by me....radio has always been my choice...I never watch television.....I still read the Sunday paper at the library..old habit

I hope printed paper is still around when I get into my 60s and 70s... I'd love to do just that when my life slows down. (Actually, I worked in a library for 2 years and I did this every now and then).
 
thV61CQJY5.jpg It's a gate master with their arms folded unless a fee had been paid. Corporate Pigs! Utube may actually cost us $.
 
Damned if I see how you can view this as morality issue, a fairness issue, a freedom issue or...
It is a price for performance issue. But, I may have missed something! I do accept clues.
Just think about how much the playboy channel is. Now think about bow much the internet porn package would be. The bronze package would be $50 a month and only show soft core bull shit. Silver would be $100 a month and you might get some penetration. Gold package would be $150 a month and would feed the fetishes, midgets, brazilian farts, and that dude with the grill and the 3 foot long fake dick that spurts more jizz than paris hiltons cock holster after a night of partying. Amateur porn would become obsolete as the faithful uploaders would have the free avenue of showing off stripped from them, pun intended of course.
 
Anyone arguing that ending Net Neutrality is a good thing, is highly delusional, and incredibly naive to think the ISPs, and those who monopolize and control them, will not abuse their new found powers. This is bad for everybody, except for the people running the 4 or 5 companies who own all of the ISPs available to U.S. consumers.

Don't be that guy. You are on the wrong side of history.

By utilizing the vast unused capabilities of existing fiber infrastructure?

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...ith-fiberbut-telecom-lobbying-keeps-it-unused

How is it price for performance? Elaborate please.
Just think about how much the playboy channel is. Now think about bow much the internet porn package would be. The bronze package would be $50 a month and only show soft core bull shit. Silver would be $100 a month and you might get some penetration. Gold package would be $150 a month and would feed the fetishes, midgets, brazilian farts, and that dude with the grill and the 3 foot long fake dick that spurts more jizz than paris hiltons cock holster after a night of partying. Amateur porn would become obsolete as the faithful uploaders would have the free avenue of showing off stripped from them, pun intended of course.
:blink: I hadn't thought of any of this! Perhaps there is more than one issue being address with a single solution?

From my view, which is living on the edge of where services are provided, the internet has never been as good in response time as you city slickers seem to need so desperately. :tongue: Thanks to your tutoring, I now know why.

But as things improved, small step by even smaller steps, it became adequate to gather information. The first Satellite internet was a huge step forward from the dial up connection. Not great at 750k download speed but really much better than the 59k telephone.

But then it soon was actually worse, as people began downloading the shit out of stuff. The provider would indeed throttle people once they exceeded their monthly allocation, but the system became so damn over loaded that no one could get anywhere near the download capacity we were suppose to get. The system could not delivery to all the users the plethora of download data requested from so many sights. The system died of it lack of manageability and people walked away as it was not worth any price.

There was a period of poor choices then but over the air data connection like Verizon filled the gap for awhile, expensive and slow and data caps, all annoying. Then we got DSL after Verizon sold the phone company to Frontier. Wonderful! Geez, in the tall grass now with 3meg download speeds. Man I can do all I need, well nearly. Trying to watch a Blazer game on the internet sucked as you were always waiting for a buffer to fill. Herky Jerky shit. No need to watch that!

Now as more and more people stream more stuff the response time for even the people that just want to access websites is shitty. Like it is a real pain in the ass to have your website time out when filling a form because the providers system is just overloaded, primarily with streaming data.

Who should pay for internet hardware needed to satisfy the end users? You can't tell the guy in the middle he can't throttle! Excess requests exceeding hardware capacity will effect it automatically indiscriminately if the middle guy doesn't manage the load.

It seems to me, there are origin users uploading data, and end users downloading data that should pay for volume and speed at some point in the equation. Perhaps the concept of Net Neutrality can only apply to the users in the middle ground of bits/second count. Porn might get a little costly up and down.

History as I see it. Extra blacklight bundles do nothing until you add a digital light on the ends. The question is who pays for volume and performance? Probably unfair as hell to load everyone with the price of porn.
 
Well? How do you support the goal of demanding no throttling? Why?
 
Well? How do you support the goal of demanding no throttling? Why?

Taking the handcuffs off isn't going to improve the system.

In theory, an open market should stimulate growth and improvement, right?

Well, these companies don't WANT an open market. They're spending money on buying off politicians and fighting competition, rather than spending money on improving infrastructure. They're trying to take us back in time to data caps and paying more for less, rather than upgrade their equipment.
 

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