Nets and Wiz dissed

[SportsTicker]

All the hype about the Celts and Knicks and to a lesser degree the Magic makes you forget that the Nets and the Wiz, two teams who had major injury issues last season, did improve during the off season without signing a major free agent or making a major trade.</p>

The Wiz get their big three back healthy plus add Nick Young, Oleksiy Pecherov and Dominic McGuire in the draft. Darius Songaila is healthy again and Andray Blatche is re-signed. They don't have a post presence and their defense is faulty, but they have a solid team and surprisingly a lot of youth.</p>

The Nets get their big three back healthy plus add a healthy Nenad Krstic and add Jamaal Magloire and Sean Williams, essentially replacing Mikki Moore and Cliff Robinson with stronger and more athletic talent. Vince Carter is resigned and they are still pursuing one more player. Marcus Williams and Josh Boone should improve. I also expect Boki Nachbar to improve as well. This is the strongest frontcourt the Nets have had since their title run in 2002-03. Their bench is questionable should any of the now Big Four go down but these guys are not slouches. </p>

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[Dark Defender]

I can understand the hype for the Celtics, but I don't get the one for the Knicks.</p>

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[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3)</div><div class='quotemain'>

I can understand the hype for the Celtics, but I don't get the one for the Knicks.</p>

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Zach Randolph is just on a whole nutha level. </p>

 

[ly_yng]

Songalia should help the Wiz a lot, but at this point, who knows if resigning Blatche is going to be an improvement? The kid is, by all accounts, a WAY bigger knucklehead than Sean Williams.

 

[Petey]

I think internal improvement is generally overlooked.</p>

-Petey</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Who is hyping the Knicks?

 

[Petey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who is hyping the Knicks?</div></p>

One local paper compared them to Parrish and McHale (Curry and Zach) yesterday.</p>

-Petey</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who is hyping the Knicks?</div></p>

One local paper compared them to Parrish and McHale (Curry and Zach) yesterday.</p>

-Petey </p>

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HA wait are you serious?!?!</p>

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that's gotta be a joke. that is pathetic.</p>

 

[JCB]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who is hyping the Knicks?</div></p>

One local paper compared them to Parrish and McHale (Curry and Zach) yesterday.</p>

-Petey </p>

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No way. That's just sad.</p>

 

[Arrpy]

Z-Bo and Curry won't play very good together. There both real ballhogs. Z-Bo is used to being the #1 scorer on a team, but not anymore. The Knicks have a lot of players that can score, but the don't know when to pass the ball. </p>

If the Knicks could somehow learn to share the ball, they could win a lot of games. But it isn't too likely.</p>

But comaring them to Parrish and McHale is just too funny.</p>

 

[Real]

I'm really excited to see what Nick Young can do.</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>

I'm really excited to see what Nick Young can do.</p></div>
me, too. i wanna see him get the starting spot alongside gil.

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who is hyping the Knicks?</div></p>

One local paper compared them to Parrish and McHale (Curry and Zach) yesterday.</p>

-Petey</p>

</div>I thin the comparison may have been comparing Parrish and McHale in 2007 and Z-Bo and Curry's lack of speed, quickness and vertical lift. Seriously Amare is going to score 50 against them. Honestly I reckon McHale could outrun Curry if they ran a chuck vs bavetta style race tomorrow. It embarrassing how goodhis skills areyet how bad his fitness and mental awareness is. He plays like someone who is slightly autistic</p>

 

[cpawfan]

The Nets snuck into the second round of the playoffs last season. They aren't improved from being a second round playoff team. </p>

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[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The Nets snuck into the second round of the playoffs last season. They aren't improved from being a second round playoff team. </p>

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I disagree. We went through a hard fought Raptor team to get there. 2 out of our 5 starters for next year weren't even on the team last year (not counting krstic), and they are our new big men. We're extremely improved</p>

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The Nets snuck into the second round of the playoffs last season. They aren't improved from being a second round playoff team. </p>

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I disagree. We went through a hard fought Raptor team to get there. 2 out of our 5 starters for next year weren't even on the team last year (not counting krstic), and they are our new big men. We're extremely improved </p></div>

There is a difference beteen being improved and being improved from being a second round team.

 

[Petey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate)</div><div class='quotemain'>Who is hyping the Knicks?</div></p>

One local paper compared them to Parrish and McHale (Curry and Zach) yesterday.</p>

-Petey </p>

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I thin the comparison may have been comparing Parrish and McHale in 2007 and Z-Bo and Curry's lack of speed, quickness and vertical lift. Seriously Amare is going to score 50 against them. Honestly I reckon McHale could outrun Curry if they ran a chuck vs bavetta style race tomorrow. It embarrassing how good his skills are yet how bad his fitness and mental awareness is. He plays like someone who is slightly autistic</p>

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I think AM New York also went on to list Duncan and Robinson, and a few other pairs.</p>

-Petey</p>

 

[zєяσ]

We are improved, but we are still a second round and out team. If we meet the Raptors again in the playoffs, they would most liely win since they got the experience now and remember they werent exactly healthy last year too. Wizards wont go far without defense.

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I think AM New York also went on to list Duncan and Robinson, and a few other pairs.</p>

-Petey</p>

</div>Jeez, I think they've been hanging out with Method Man a bit too much, because to say that, with a straight face... You've really gotta be high.</p>

I wouldnt even compare those two to Kenny Thomas and Brad Miller... not without seeing a single game that matters!</p>

Man they must be giving out presenter slots out like bobble heads at a Rockets game!</p>

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

[quote name='Petey'][quote name='Downunderwonder'][quote name='Petey']

[quote name='Kid Chocolate']Who is hyping the Knicks?[/QUOTE]</p>

One local paper compared them to Parrish and McHale (Curry and Zach) yesterday.</p>

-Petey </p>

[/QUOTE]I thin the comparison may have been comparing Parrish and McHale in 2007 and Z-Bo and Curry's lack of speed, quickness and vertical lift. Seriously Amare is going to score 50 against them. Honestly I reckon McHale could outrun Curry if they ran a chuck vs bavetta style race tomorrow. It embarrassing how good his skills are yet how bad his fitness and mental awareness is. He plays like someone who is slightly autistic</p>

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I think AM New York also went on to list Duncan and Robinson, and a few other pairs.</p>

-Petey </p>

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Wait, weren't those two actually, you know, good? </p>

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The Nets snuck into the second round of the playoffs last season. They aren't improved from being a second round playoff team. </p>

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I disagree. We went through a hard fought Raptor team to get there. 2 out of our 5 starters for next year weren't even on the team last year (not counting krstic), and they are our new big men. We're extremely improved </p>

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There is a difference beteen being improved and being improved from being a second round team.
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Both are improvments, so no? At the very least, an improvment from the 2nd round places us in the Eastern conference finals. Once we get there anything can happen. For a team that has had problems getting out of the 2nd round, significant improvements that advance us past that plateau makes us legitimate contenders</p>

 

[Dre]

I don't understand the lack of love for the Knicks. People are so busy hating the guys as people that they ignore their basketball ability. The Knicks have three legit all-stars in the East, anything less than a 5 seed is dissapointment.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dre)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand the lack of love for the Knicks. People are so busy hating the guys as people that they ignore their basketball ability. The Knicks have three legit all-stars in the East, anything less than a 5 seed is dissapointment.</div>please name those 3 all stars, because i only see one, maybe 2.</p>

one of them is the only white guy on the squad, and the other doesn't play defense (bet you can't guess which one! hint: it's not okafor ). </p>

 

[Dre]

Marbury, Randolph and Curry, and you can put Lee in if you want but that's ridiculous.

 

[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Marbury, Randolph and Curry, and you can put Lee in if you want but that's ridiculous.</div></p>

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Yeah, those guys are "legit all-stars". Don't see how they fall below a 5 seed with those winners.</p>

 

[Dre]

Me either.

 

[SportsTicker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The Nets snuck into the second round of the playoffs last season. They aren't improved from being a second round playoff team. </p>

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Nets would have been in the EC Finals if roles had been reversed and the Cavs had suffered serious injuries. I know how it pains you when someone suggests the Nets are not losers. </p>

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[Petey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Marbury, Randolph and Curry, and you can put Lee in if you want but that's ridiculous.</div></p>

If that's the case, what happened to the Knicks last year? Francis has way more all-star appearances than Randolph.</p>

-Petey</p>

 

[SportsTicker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Marbury, Randolph and Curry, and you can put Lee in if you want but that's ridiculous.</div></p>

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Yeah, those guys are "legit all-stars". Don't see how they fall below a 5 seed with those winners. </p>

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Anyone who has seen Marbury's interviews has to have some doubt that he is stable (sober?) enough to lead the team. Knicks will start slowly forcing Isiah to go with a lineup that puts some of his high priced talent on the bench. NOT ONE of those "legit all-stars" can play a lick of defense. </p>

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[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dre)</div><div class='quotemain'>Marbury, Randolph and Curry, and you can put Lee in if you want but that's ridiculous.</div></p>

Dre I'm usually in your corner but this time? No way in hell. There is no doubting the ability of this team. The problem in the mix. Too many ball hogs. Marbury, Crawford, Nate, Randolph and Curry have had strange no-pass policies in effect the last couple years. Marbury racks up assists but just as often prefers to dribble the air out of the ball like it owes him money. Eddy Curry will never be confused with Wes Unseld. Nate is...nate. And Randolph is a post scorer, not a ball handler or a passer.</p>

You have a lot of guys in the starting 5 who need the ball to be effective, whereas David Lee and Baulkman, two guys who can be great without a single offensive play called for them (in the same way as Shane Battier) will have their roles marginalised with so much salary tied up with 3 players, since you'd be mad to sit those so called 'all stars' when they are earning almost as much as the entire Bobcats roster between them.</p>

What are the odds of the 'cats racking up more wins than the knicks? I'm considering a small wager....</p>