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maxiep said:
It was a B-25 Mitchell, not a B-2 Stealth bomber.
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Hahaha!! Hey I got the B & 2 part right. Just forgot the 5. Actually I first typed B-52 but I knew that was wrong. At least got the building right.
 
Minstrel said:
When you're crashing the plane, the building doesn't have to be tall. And you don't have to hit it straight on.
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I understand that.


To be quite honest, I'm not sure what we are arguing about anymore.
 
A plane didn't crash into the PENTAGON!!!!!! IT was a DRONEE!!!!11111

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Continue.
 
There's a group of professional airline pilots, that thought the hit on the pentagon would have been extremely difficult, especially for an amature. So they got into a simulator and tried to re-create the hit, and it took each of them several tries before they got it.

So the hit was, to say the least, very lucky.

I have difficulty believing that our air defense is really so inept that someone could navigate a jet into our main defense head quarters without being shot down. The crash occured over a half hour after 2nd plane hit, so there was no question something big was going down. You don't think they would have been on high alert?

Don't you also find it suspicious that Dick Cheany gave took personal control over Norad's policy of sending jets up to follow planes that went off course a few months before 9-11? And that it just so happens that none of them intercepted any of these planes? Does that not raise any suspicion with any of you? Listen to Norman Mineta's testimony to the 9-11 commission.


We can argue the physics of the building collapses till kingdom come. But if you really study this issue, the government really doesn't have an explaination. They used computer models to simulate the collapse, and they even admitted in the NIST report that they kept tweaking the variables and the algorithm until they got the desired effect.

A pancaking collapse couldn't have happened nearly as fast, and wouldn't explain the destruction of the core. The more I think about the idea that a fire could have caused 3 sky scrapers to fall straight down and near free fall speed, the more ridiculous it becomes.

Just look at building 7. I"m saddened that so many people don't have serious questions about the story we've been told, and in the public forum, those who ask these questions are ridiculed.

Don't forget that it was the family members of victims that had to PROTEST in order to even get the fraudulent 9-11 commission formed in the first place(headed by the evil and corrupt Henry Kissinger). Bush and Dick didn't want it formed, they refused to testify under oath, and had to be together. They had something to hide.

This event has been used as the catalyst to get us into two wars and pass legislation that shreds the civil liberties established by our constitution.

Joseph Goebbels, the leader for the Minister of Nazi Propoganda said it's easy to get a people of any nation to go to war, convince them they are being attacked, and denounce those who oppose as unpatriotic. What has been done here, is Nazi tactics, by a group of criminals in power in our country.
 
Sinobas said:
There's a group of professional airline pilots, that thought the hit on the pentagon would have been extremely difficult, especially for an amature. So they got into a simulator and tried to re-create the hit, and it took each of them several tries before they got it.

So the hit was, to say the least, very lucky.

I have difficulty believing that our air defense is really so inept that someone could navigate a jet into our main defense head quarters without being shot down. The crash occured over a half hour after 2nd plane hit, so there was no question something big was going down. You don't think they would have been on high alert?

Don't you also find it suspicious that Dick Cheany gave took personal control over Norad's policy of sending jets up to follow planes that went off course a few months before 9-11? And that it just so happens that none of them intercepted any of these planes? Does that not raise any suspicion with any of you? Listen to Norman Mineta's testimony to the 9-11 commission.


We can argue the physics of the building collapses till kingdom come. But if you really study this issue, the government really doesn't have an explaination. They used computer models to simulate the collapse, and they even admitted in the NIST report that they kept tweaking the variables and the algorithm until they got the desired effect.

A pancaking collapse couldn't have happened nearly as fast, and wouldn't explain the destruction of the core. The more I think about the idea that a fire could have caused 3 sky scrapers to fall straight down and near free fall speed, the more ridiculous it becomes.

Just look at building 7. I"m saddened that so many people don't have serious questions about the story we've been told, and in the public forum, those who ask these questions are ridiculed.

Don't forget that it was the family members of victims that had to PROTEST in order to even get the fraudulent 9-11 commission formed in the first place(headed by the evil and corrupt Henry Kissinger). Bush and Dick didn't want it formed, they refused to testify under oath, and had to be together. They had something to hide.

This event has been used as the catalyst to get us into two wars and pass legislation that shreds the civil liberties established by our constitution.

Joseph Goebbels, the leader for the Minister of Nazi Propoganda said it's easy to get a people of any nation to go to war, convince them they are being attacked, and denounce those who oppose as unpatriotic. What has been done here, is Nazi tactics, by a group of criminals in power in our country.
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So you're arguing that the government's motive for crashing planes into the WTC and Pentagon was "to get us into two wars?" Is that what you're saying? EDITED
 
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Sinobas said:
There's a group of professional airline pilots, that thought the hit on the pentagon would have been extremely difficult, especially for an amature. So they got into a simulator and tried to re-create the hit, and it took each of them several tries before they got it.

So the hit was, to say the least, very lucky.
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It's one thing to say that it took luck for the hijacker to succeed. But claiming that a professional airline pilot couldn't hit the broad side of the Pentagon without several tries? Not believable.

But, show me a link to this information, and I'll go read it.

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MARIS61 said:
And my avatar is solid evidence that I swam the English Channel. Backwards. Twice.

Think hard now. Fire, and heat, rises. Supports = beneath fire.

I grew up in a fire hall, and half my family are/were firemen.

They all say it's impossible, and they went to college to study the properties and characteristics of fire, structures, and everything that could possibly happen when the two mix.

But thanks for playing.
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I like you so much now that I know you are not one of those people who believe the towers fell by airplanes. I think that is a HUGE variable in people who I decide to associate with or not. I put a lot on that. Chances are, if you think the towers fell from fire and airplane fuel, I would not want to hang out with you or talk to you.

You now have my respect 100%, sir.

I will not rape this thread with anymore 9-11 talk, but RIP to all who died for this terrible mistake.
 
For those that believe that the Twin Towers and Pentagon were brought down/damaged by something other than a terrorist attack, I'd like to see what you believe caused it. I then would like an explanation of your reasoning behind those assumptions.
 
maxiep said:
For those that believe that the Twin Towers and Pentagon were brought down/damaged by something other than a terrorist attack, I'd like to see what you believe caused it. I then would like an explanation of your reasoning behind those assumptions.
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Vinyard said:
911 commission report was written by the government. If they had a hand in the attacks, do you think they would even consider mentioning that one of the hijackers was a completely inexperienced pilot? Obviously not.



I think you're mistaking the Pentagon with the WTC. It wasn't that difficult to smash into the Twin Towers.

However, look at the point of impact of the Pentagon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Pentagon_crach_site.jpg

Are you going to tell me that it's easy to crash into that building at that exact spot...while flying inches off the ground.
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How do you know he was aiming "at that exact spot?" I think he was aiming for the hallway to the right of the impact point so as to allow debris, fuel, and flames to penetrate the building as far as possible, but he missed to the left by about 100 feet...
 
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