New book says Obama "in over his head"

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I can understand independents not voting for Obama, but what in their right mind is turning them toward Palin? Has she cured cancer or efficiently engineered solar power while I wasn't paying attention?

Good question.

Her detractors remember her unsteadiness on the public stage as VP candidate, believe the Saturday Night sketches about her are the truth, and that she's a quitter for resigning as governor.

Yet, since resigning as governor, she's taken to the road to speak on the issues and has honed her message and understanding of the issues. She's thrown her weight behind tea party candidates and helped most of those get elected. Thousands of people will sit in the rain to see her speak; for some reason she's extremely popular in that regard.

Maybe there's a change of attitude towards her because of the failures of the people in office. If the people in office are abject failures, we the people are not doing so well, the people in office are belittling her, then she must be the answer. The failures aren't the answer.
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/obam...idence-men-economic-team-geithner-2011-9?op=1

Obama is a terrible manager

The whole economic team knew the stimulus was doomed to fail

But Paul Krugman was the voice inside Obama's head

And then totally lost it after Obama reappointed Ben Bernanke

Tim Geithner went behind everybody's back to save the banks

The White House has a SERIOUS women problem

It took Obama seven months to realize he needed to fire Rahm

In short, Obama is a REALLY terrible manager

Not much has changed — Obama hasn't had a message since 2008


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So what is this guy, a racist. conservative or someone with some other agenda? I am sure someone will start crying that it has to be one of them

Well, it's undeniable he has an agenda and that is to make silly $ by selling this book trashing the President through personal opinions and singled-out interpretations from admittedly biased individuals of little importance rather than do something connstructive for his country.

Just another parasite looking to get rich without working for it.

I hear he'll be a contestant on Dancing with the Stars next season.
 
What happened to Obama's budget? Last I saw, his latest attempt was defeated 97-0 in the Senate. Has he even had a real budget that has been passed during his term, other than a continuation without parameters?

Pretty obvious who's dragging their feet and who's suggesting solutions.

Put the blame where it belongs, on the shoulders of our dishonest senators and representatives.
 
What do you think Bush should have done?

Resigned immediately, selecting a child from the classroom at random to finish his term for him.

Hindsight is golden but I think it's obvious we'd have been in safer hands with a random elementary student leading us rather than Bush.
 
Pretty obvious who's dragging their feet and who's suggesting solutions.

Put the blame where it belongs, on the shoulders of our dishonest senators and representatives.

Really though, where is the budget? I realize you're a gimmick account, as you've said in the past, but how about a simple fiscal-year budget from Failbama before we start talking about more spending and tax increases?

Also, why hasn't a single House Democrat introduced the PASS THIS BILL!!! bill yet? It's been two weeks. It's tough to pass a bill that can't even be put through committee, isn't it?
 
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Resigned immediately, selecting a child from the classroom at random to finish his term for him.

Hindsight is golden but I think it's obvious we'd have been in safer hands with a random elementary student leading us rather than Bush.

julius would be OUTRAGED at you trivializing this grave day in our history.

Since you're on his "team", he won't be though.
 
Articles like this, about conflicting personalities of presidential advisors, have appeared during every presidency, forever. When it's a Republican president, the conservative-owned media say he's too nice to fire people fast. When it's a Democrat, they say he's too incompetent to do so.

The best thing Obama has is that the president before him was the worst one in at least a century. Obama is too conservative to fight Republicans, so he appears impotent and inexperienced. He's certainly less so than his predecessor, but as Maris says, that's a low standard and even a kid would look better than Bush.

Obama's results are the same as would have come from a normal Republican president (not a crazy one like his 2012 opponent will be, which will make Obama's reelection a cinch which he doesn't deserve).
 
julius would be OUTRAGED at you trivializing this grave day in our history.

Since you're on his "team", he won't be though.

actually, I don't pay much attention to him.
 
The book is written from the left, criticizing Obama for being the victim of conservative advisors. Naturally, conservatives use the book to attack Obama. They count on us not reading the book and knowing its substance.
 
The book is written from the left, criticizing Obama for being the victim of conservative advisors. Naturally, conservatives use the book to attack Obama. They count on us not reading the book and knowing its substance.

The book shows Obama as an incompetent leader and a ditherer. Left or right flank, that's a tough claim to walk back, as Jay Carney found out today.
 
Articles like this, about conflicting personalities of presidential advisors, have appeared during every presidency, forever. When it's a Republican president, the conservative-owned media say he's too nice to fire people fast. When it's a Democrat, they say he's too incompetent to do so.

The best thing Obama has is that the president before him was the worst one in at least a century. Obama is too conservative to fight Republicans, so he appears impotent and inexperienced. He's certainly less so than his predecessor, but as Maris says, that's a low standard and even a kid would look better than Bush.

Obama's results are the same as would have come from a normal Republican president (not a crazy one like his 2012 opponent will be, which will make Obama's reelection a cinch which he doesn't deserve).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics)

W ranks 5th best since 1948
Carter ranks 11th (worst)
Obama would be 7th, slightly ahead of GHW Bush

(W was a better president than his father, no doubt)

Using BMI
W 2nd term was 6th best
W 1st term was 8th best
Again Carter was last.
 
(W was a better president than his father, no doubt)

You are possibly the only person on earth old enough to remember both who believes that.

barfo
 
Gotta go with the barfman on this one.
 
Gotta go with the barfman on this one.

Your job depends on you following orders from your CIC, and I wouldn't expect you to post anything but positive things about him. Your opinion is obviously biased, and I suggest you refrain from any threads involving Obama. Your bias on this is obvious, and you've posted before how you won't/can't criticize the CIC.
 
You are possibly the only person on earth old enough to remember both who believes that.

barfo

I'm not even sure W himself would believe that.
 
I'm not even sure W himself would believe that.

Here comes the pep rally from the living in the past gang.

Meanwhile, Failbama is worse than both of the Bush presidents in almost every measure that has been polled.
 
Your job depends on you following orders from your CIC, and I wouldn't expect you to post anything but positive things about him. Your opinion is obviously biased, and I suggest you refrain from any threads involving Obama. Your bias on this is obvious, and you've posted before how you won't/can't criticize the CIC.

yeah, if there's one thing we all know from BFW, it's that he's only said positive things about Obama....and it is painfully obvious that he masks his bias so cleverly that he says that George H Bush was a better president then his son George W Bush.

absolutely brilliant brian.
 
Here comes the pep rally from the living in the past gang.

Meanwhile, Failbama is worse than both of the Bush presidents in almost every measure that has been polled.

you need to stop mixing your medications with alcohol.
 
you need to stop mixing your medications with alcohol.

You should stop mocking an 8 year-old with a life-threatening disease. You won't, though. It's the liberal way.
 
You should stop mocking an 8 year-old with a life-threatening disease. You won't, though. It's the liberal way.

why are you letting your kid mix alcohol with medication?

that seems like poor parenting.




ooh, I'm sorry. I thought since you were saying nonsense shit, I would too.
 
why are you letting your kid mix alcohol with medication?

that seems like poor parenting.

ooh, I'm sorry. I thought since you were saying nonsense shit, I would too.

Wow.
 
Your job depends on you following orders from your CIC, and I wouldn't expect you to post anything but positive things about him. Your opinion is obviously biased, and I suggest you refrain from any threads involving Obama. Your bias on this is obvious, and you've posted before how you won't/can't criticize the CIC.

Neither GHWB nor GWB is the CiC or in my chain of command, and my opinion ended there.
 
yeah, if there's one thing we all know from BFW, it's that he's only said positive things about Obama....and it is painfully obvious that he masks his bias so cleverly that he says that George H Bush was a better president then his son George W Bush.

absolutely brilliant brian.

Make the case that GHW was better than Bush.

As near as I can tell, GHW failed to complete the mission in Iraq, left troops in Saudi Arabia, presided over about 4 years of recession, presided over the S&L crash, and failed to keep his #1 campaign promise (No New Taxes). He left office with a job approval rating of 29, and was the only republican since FDR to not win reelection. He entered office with debt as a % of GDP of 53.1% and left with 66.1%.

GDP was growing by 4% annually when he took office and was 2.8% for 2 of his years, 1.7% and -0.8% the other two.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics))

W ranks 5th best since 1948
Carter ranks 11th (worst)
Obama would be 7th, slightly ahead of GHW Bush

(W was a better president than his father, no doubt)

Using BMI
W 2nd term was 6th best
W 1st term was 8th best
Again Carter was last.

I'm glad you had me read that article. I learned some things. All the stupid Okun misery index is, is the inflation percentage plus the unemployment percentage (which is easily altered by benefits currently offered--when Democratic presidents increase benefits, more people apply for unemployment and increase the stupid index). The Barro misery index adds GDP and the bank rate. Both indices are meaningless, just rules of thumb, just guidelines.

Strange things going on in that article. Numbers have been jimmied to make Carter look bad. Let's start with the Barro misery index. From the article:

Using the BMI, the ranks are as follows:
Term Misery% (less is good)

Reagan I -4.9
Clinton II -3.7
Reagan II -3.1
Kennedy/Johnson -2.5
Clinton I -2.4
GW Bush II -.8
Truman -.8
GW Bush I .2
GHW Bush .5
Johnson 1.3
Nixon 1.6
Eisenhower II 1.9
Eisenhower I 3.1
Nixon/Ford 8.0
Carter 9.4

Hmm. Ford is the only president not listed separately. That's because he'd be at the bottom. If the 8 Nixon/Ford years are 8.0, including 6 Nixon years of 1.6, then Ford's 2 years are 27.2 =(8*8.0 minus 6*1.6)/2. Wikipedia covered it up by combining Ford and Nixon.

Using BMI...Again Carter was last.

Wrong. Ford was. Next, the big chart in the article about the Okun misery index. Okun was the brilliant young Economic advisor to Lyndon Johnson who mysteriously died of a heart attack at age 51 in the 1980 purges which got Reagan elected (e.g. Ted Kennedy advisor Allard Lowenstein).

For each president, the beginning misery index number should equal the ending misery index number for the preceding president. It never does. The beginning number has been jimmied down for each Republican (to improve his change number) and up for each Democrat (to make his change number worse). There are 2 exceptions, the Bush boys.

The Wikipedia article is rigged with 2 statistical lies that I, as a rookie to the misery index, immediately noticed. I wonder how many more lies are in the article.
 
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