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If Earth was experiencing a cooling down period, would you start eating more beef and non-local food?

If that was the case I'd pay off cows to fart in your face

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If that was the case I'd pay off cows to fart in your face

STOMP

Can't answer the question, so you get butthurt instead? Probably due to your raised estrogen levels from eating too much soy.
 
Can't answer the question, so you get butthurt instead? Probably due to your raised estrogen levels from eating too much soy.

I gave a straight answer to maxie's sincere question and then you played the fool. I tried to play along with additional foolishness. Now I'm butthurt & have elevated estrogen levels because I can't answer your jackass question???

Pathetic showing

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all part of my master plan :devilwink:

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To look like an clueless idiot on a message board? You live in SF; where do you get you "local" food from, Mr. Green?
 
3 pages of responses and only 1 post referring to the actual findings of the study...
 
I gave a straight answer to maxie's sincere question and then you played the fool. I tried to play along with additional foolishness. Now I'm butthurt & have elevated estrogen levels because I can't answer your jackass question???

Pathetic showing

STOMP

What's pathetic is that you think it is a jackass question. Hint: The earth has has long periods of significant cooling.

If we were entering one of those cooling stages, and scientists warned of catastrophic consequences, would you change your lifestyle to try to warm the planet?
 
What's pathetic is that you think it is a jackass question. Hint: The earth has has long periods of significant cooling.

no it was a ridiculous hypothetical. Human activity has never been thought to cause the earth to cool. Way to leave that out.

I try to be responsible & respectful of others in my choices in life. If somehow the overwhelming opinion of the scientific community was that human activity was causing the earth to cool to a potentially dangerous level, I'd probably adjust my behavior especially if there was something simple like subtle changes in my diet and consuming patterns. But again, this is ridiculous

btw... Soy has it's issues too

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/habitats/last-of-amazon/

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no it was a ridiculous hypothetical. Human activity has never been thought to cause the earth to cool. Way to leave that out.

I try to be responsible & respectful of others in my choices in life. If somehow the overwhelming opinion of the scientific community was that human activity was causing the earth to cool to a potentially dangerous level, I'd probably adjust my behavior especially if there was something simple like subtle changes in my diet and consuming patterns. But again, this is ridiculous

btw... Soy has it's issues too

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/habitats/last-of-amazon/

STOMP

The only reason you think it is ridiculous is because you have the blinders on. The real question, since it was clearly going over your head is:

If humans can significantly affect the temperature / climate on Earth (as you clearly think we can... OMG stop eating beef!!), should we allow ourselves to do so?

Your actions and answers say that you think we should not allow ourselves to affect the natural cycles of Earth's temperatures. So what do you do if global cooling begins to take place and we're heading for an ice-age?
 
So lets see if I understand all of this...

Humankind can intentionally or unintentionally change our environment but we could never intentionally or unintentionally change our climate.

Or in other words we can dam a river but we can't damn the planet.

Remember Stomp, only God can change a climate.
 
The only reason you think it is ridiculous is because you have the blinders on. The real question, blah blah blah blah
good grief you're an angry bitch. Wendy's just lay you off or something? Obviously this is some sort of personal issue you have that isn't about me at all. Did you catch the part in my opening post where I said I still eat beef?

STOMP
 
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If that was the case I'd pay off cows to fart in your face

STOMP

good grief you're an angry bitch. Wendy's just lay you off or something?

STOMP

Good grief. Lay off the excess estrogen. Your man-boobs are making you very emotional. Perhaps eating some more beef would provide you with some much needed testosterone. :dunno:

Back to being on-topic...

If humans can significantly affect the temperature / climate on Earth (as you clearly think we can), should we allow ourselves to do so?

Your actions and answers say that you think we should not allow ourselves to affect the natural cycles of Earth's temperatures.
 
Good grief. Lay off the excess estrogen. Your man-boobs are making you very emotional. Perhaps eating some more beef would provide you with some much needed testosterone. :dunno:

Back to being on-topic...

If humans can significantly affect the temperature / climate on Earth (as you clearly think we can), should we allow ourselves to do so?

Your actions and answers say that you think we should not allow ourselves to affect the natural cycles of Earth's temperatures.

Still can't process the part that I eat beef or that I don't eat soy... :smiley-sadyes: Your comments make me think yodeling next to your ear would produce spectacular echoes

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Still can't process the part that I eat beef or that I don't eat soy... :smiley-sadyes: Your comments make me think yodeling next to your ear would produce spectacular echoes

STOMP

If humans can significantly affect the temperature / climate on Earth (as you clearly think we can), should we allow ourselves to do so?

Your actions and answers say that you think we should not allow ourselves to affect the natural cycles of Earth's temperatures.
 
Kind of strange how the headline is phrased as if it should be shouted.

Hear that you alarmists? STOP OVERREACTING!
 
If humans can significantly affect the temperature / climate on Earth (as you clearly think we can), should we allow ourselves to do so?

Your actions and answers say that you think we should not allow ourselves to affect the natural cycles of Earth's temperatures.

If? IF?!? I just gave you a link that showed you how we can.
 
If humans can significantly affect the temperature / climate on Earth (as you clearly think we can), should we allow ourselves to do so?

it's far more conclusive then me thinking we can... the overwhelming opinion of the scientific community is that human activity is affecting the temperature of our planet contributing to a significant spike. A better question is why in the world have you've concluded that this spike is a natural occurrence as you're going against a vast majority of the experts?

Your actions and answers say that you think we should not allow ourselves to affect the natural cycles of Earth's temperatures.

this is where you go off the logic tracks in a big way. The overwhelming opinion of scientific community agrees that human activities are raising the earth's temperatures. What is natural about having 1.5 billion cows exuding endless clouds of methane and ammonia? Thats our choice. Humanity has existed up to this generation eating far less beef per individual (and meat in general) then we do today. The choice isn't man boobs or eat cow every day. My actions and answers say that I pay attention to reality and try to curb my contribution to this unnatural trend as an individual effort. I don't get preachy about this decision generally but if someone (like in this case maxiep) asks what he can do, I'll share what I'm doing.

we live in a free society and people have the right to eat whatever they choose. Individuals can continue to fill their fat asses and clog their arteries with cholesterol eating delicious burgers morning noon and night. But for health and green reasons I've personally decided to cut back on my beef consumption. I still eat it, but I actually eat more bison burgers then beef. Buffalo is leaner/healthier for consumption and are a positive presence for native grasses/soils where as cows tend to turn grasslands to dust bowls. Being more nimble, Buffalo don't trample stream banks down at nearly the rate that cows do. This last bit means more usable habitat for fish and amphibians which is directly reflected in the Biological research work I've done for the Ca. Department of Fish and Game.

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it's far more conclusive then me thinking we can... the overwhelming opinion of the scientific community is that human activity is affecting the temperature of our planet contributing to a significant spike. A better question is why in the world have you've concluded that this spike is a natural occurrence as you're going against a vast majority of the experts?



this is where you go off the logic tracks in a big way. The overwhelming opinion of scientific community agrees that human activities are raising the earth's temperatures. What is natural about having 1.5 billion cows exuding endless clouds of methane and ammonia? Thats our choice. Humanity has existed up to this generation eating far less beef per individual (and meat in general) then we do today. The choice isn't man boobs or eat cow every day. My actions and answers say that I pay attention to reality and try to curb my contribution to this unnatural trend as an individual effort. I don't get preachy about this decision generally but if someone (like in this case maxiep) asks what he can do, I'll share what I'm doing.

we live in a free society and people have the right to eat whatever they choose. Individuals can continue to fill their fat asses and clog their arteries with cholesterol eating delicious burgers morning noon and night. But for health and green reasons I've personally decided to cut back on my beef consumption. I still eat it, but I actually eat more bison burgers then beef. Buffalo is leaner/healthier for consumption and are a positive presence for native grasses/soils where as cows tend to turn grasslands to dust bowls. Being more nimble, Buffalo don't trample stream banks down at nearly the rate that cows do. This last bit means more usable habitat for fish and amphibians which is directly reflected in the Biological research work I've done for the Ca. Department of Fish and Game.

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This has gone so far over your head, or you're purposely skirting the question because you can't answer it. Either way, it is like talking to a brick wall, and not interesting at all.
 
bb30 is asking a pertinent philosophical question.

Are we a part of nature? If so, then why is what we're doing any different than ants or bees doing whatever construction type things they do.
 
This has gone so far over your head, or you're purposely skirting the question because you can't answer it. Either way, it is like talking to a brick wall, and not interesting at all.
I find it amusing talking to someone trying to look down their nose while their head is up their ass

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This thread is about NASA and the history of CO2 ppm in the atmosphere. Get back on track because you've gone off topic.

Stop the personal attack and look at Denny's articles. The consensus believes in climate change, even Denny does. Stop the vague banter, arguing, whatever, and get down to the advanced scientific metrics from our own NASA Terra satelite.

Some of the amateurs out there don't seem to understand computer models shouldn't be based on 50 or even 100 years of data. No one ever has an answer for Denny's thorough scientific analysis.
 
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I find it amusing talking to someone trying to look down their nose while their head is up their ass

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Yawn. Very boring.

I'm concerned about your estrogen levels... soy or no soy.
 
This thread is about NASA and the history of CO2 ppm in the atmosphere. Get back on track because you've gone off topic.

Stop the personal attack and look at Denny's articles. The consensus believes in climate change, even Denny does. Stop the vague banter, arguing, whatever, and get down to the advanced scientific metrics from our own NASA Terra satelite.

Some of the amateurs out there don't seem to understand computer models shouldn't be based on 50 or even 100 years of data. No one ever has an answer for Denny's thorough scientific analysis.

I directly addressed the study on page 2. Denny posted right after my post and ignored everything I had pointed out.

Then BB30 and Stomp go on belittling each other like a couple fighting on vacation. You could cut the sexual tension with a knife
 
I directly addressed the study on page 2. Denny posted right after my post and ignored everything I had pointed out.

Then BB30 and Stomp go on belittling each other like a couple fighting on vacation. You could cut the sexual tension with a knife

Well at least you followed the thread, but an 1896 study on short term effects of climate change seems pretty statistically noisy (inaccurate due to sample size). We had a little ice age from 1600 to 1850, climate change occurs on a massive chronological scale.
 
Well at least you followed the thread, but an 1896 study on short term effects of climate change seems pretty statistically noisy (inaccurate due to sample size). We had a little ice age from 1600 to 1850, climate change occurs on a massive chronological scale.

So you disagree with the premise of the study referred to in the article Denny posted?

Regardless of the small sample size and his conclusions Svante Arrhenius was the first to demonstrate that adding CO2 to the atmosphere would increase infrared radiation absorbed
 

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