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bodyman5000 and 1 said:
So let's say I'm arguing with a few people in a thread I start.

Then I quote all three of them in one post and say You're Stupidheads!!!!

Is that one insult or three, huh @SlyPokerDog ?
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I would edit your post so it is clearly 3 personal insults, ban you, then send you an extra small t-shirt.
 
BonesJones said:
You don't have the balls to insult me.

(Yes, that's a challenge).
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Ha! I don't fall for bait. I tried to tell people that bait wasn't a good excuse. It is like blaming a girl for wearing slutty clothes and then getting attacked.

Good to see that covered in this thread.

PS...all the names in my post were random save for the one starting with h
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Hey....I don't EVER WANT TO BE A MOD


That said, please add me to the free to insult category with you. Thanks
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The only reason I allow people to insult me is because it would be very easy to find all the insults being thrown my way since you get a notification when someone replies to you. So I would be editing or deleting all the insults aimed at me but missing some leveled at others. Seems hypocritical to give myself something on here that I can't give to others.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The only reason I allow people to insult me is because it would be very easy to find all the insults being thrown my way since you get a notification when someone replies to you. So I would be editing or deleting all the insults aimed at me but missing some leveled at others. Seems hypocritical to give myself something on here that I can't give to others.
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I don't mind people insulting me cuz I know they all be dumb anyway.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I don't mind people insulting me cuz I know they all be dumb anyway.
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Do you think I really want to deal with the shit that would unleash?

"You didn't edit his insult, why are you editing mine? You're biased!"
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Do you think I really want to deal with the shit that would unleash?

"You didn't edit his insult, why are you editing mine? You're biased!"
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Put it in the rules that I and anyone who want to be freely insulted can be added to the list.

One of my favorite dudes still thinks I want him banned. Now I can't be myself.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I have spent a long time thinking about the many complaints and problems and the few suggestions and ideas on how to make things better.

Things have gotten so out of hand and so ugly that changes must be made.

Now before we go into all that I would to explain a few things so everyone knows where I'm coming from.

Fuck it, I've been sitting here for an hour trying to think of a polite and friendly way to say all of this and I'm not getting anywhere.

New Rules: There will be no new rules.

I'm not seeing problems in the main section of the forum and with the vast majority of members who post here. The problems what we're having are primarily with the same handful of people over and over. Yes, there are some that slip up but those are easily handled and not a continuing problem.

I'm also not seeing problems that we've never had before that would require new rules.

The problem is Personal Insults.

Grey area: Holy fucking hell I am so sorry I ever posted that in passing. Some of you have latched on to that not as a problem but as a justification to insult others. If "grey area" was truly the problem it would pretty much be the only forum of personal insults we see on here. It's not.

Baiting: HAHAHAHAHAH! Baiting? Really? We're all adults here, if you're actually saying that you can be "baited" into insulting someone then that is on you. Can someone bait you into posting you're credit card number in the forum? Can someone bait into posting child porn here? Of course not, that's silly. Just like it's silly to say that someone has baited you posting personal insults. Baiting is just excuse.

Mods/Staff: I have doubled the amount of staff in the forum in the last 6 months. They are people who understand that this is a community and want to make it better. They are good guys. All of the complaints about them I have taken seriously and have looked into them. I have not found examples or proof of what some of you have been accusing them of. I will always listen to your complaints and concerns but let's be honest, the people complaining the most about the staff are the ones breaking the rules.

Mods/Staff Part 2: This forum has limited resources and our greatest resource are the people who have volunteered to help run this community. The amount of staff/resources that are going to handle the petty bullshit in the OT has to stop. It is hurting other areas of the forum, it isn't fun and it wasn't what they signed up.

Now before I say where I'm going with all of this I want give you a bit of an example of what some of the problems are.

Orion Bailey, I first want to say I truly like you. I'm not picking on you. I'm only using this as an example as to what some of the problems are here and hopefully by doing so it will help everyone.

So today, OB brought up some complaints and accusations about the staff and our bias.

When he made them he was nice enough to provide a link to an example of what he was talking about.

When I clicked on the link sure as shit it was a personal insult from HCP to him from Oct 18th. Sitting there completely unedited, right out in the open. I immediately deleted it. That is not acceptable.

Now his complaint was we as a staff are biased against him and allowing HCP to get away with things that others are not.

And at first glance, he was right.

But then I started reading through the rest of the thread. And for whatever reason, the thread was full of personal insults including some by OB that were completely unedited or deleted.

So that kind of kills the bias thing doesn't it? I mean you can't claim that because we didn't edit HCP's personal insult that means we're favoring him when the insults you posted also went unedited.

It doesn't prove bias, it proves we're human and that thread got missed.

So then I started digging further, pulling up flagged messages logs, Private Messages from that date, and if any of the staff were tagged in that thread in order to draw their attention to the insults in the thread.

No. No attempt was made on that date or afterwards until today to get staff to address the problem.

Instead this really feels like it was saved as a way to prove how bad the staff is.

Now I'm not trying to pick on OB or embarrass him. I'm truly trying to use this as an example of how dysfunctional this has become for everyone involved. As soon as OB brought this to our attention I immediately removed HCPs insult and Chris Craig cleaned up the rest of the thread. In other words, we did what OB really wanted us to do but it didn't happen until OB took the time to bring it to our attention.

It's impossible to read every post in this forum. There are 5 of us and 100s of you. To assume that we are playing favorites or don't like you because we don't edit a personal insult is just factually wrong.

I'm not telling you this, I'm asking to help us and let us show you that is true.

Instead of waiting over a month to say, "You missed one, this is proof you're bias!" How about telling us when you first saw it instead of immediately insulting them back. And if you were just too pissed off to tell anyone at the time then how about going back and cleaning up your own personal insults and then tell us and we'll clean up the ones that were made against you.

Another example, as I was sitting here trying to figure out how to say all this I start getting notifications... ping...ping... So I leave a half finished paragraph and open up notifications. I'm being tagged in the game thread. I click on it and sure enough there is a problem. I removed the person who was having a bit of a meltdown from the game thread, thanked the person who tagged me, and the sent a Private Message to the person I removed from the game thread to try and find out if there is an additional problem that I was not aware of or maybe he's just having a bad day.

Someone was having a problem, someone else brought it to the staff's attention, staff dealt with it quickly, fairly, and respectfully.

...

Now where am I going with all this?

As I said before, I don't think the continued problem with personal insults is because we don't have enough rules. I also don't think it's a problem with staff.

After much consideration I think the problem is there are no real penalties for continually making personal insults. Having your post edited or deleted is not a deterrent. I mean to hear some of you freak the fuck out over it you would think that for every one your posts that are edited or deleted a giant cattle prod is being shoved up your ass and fired off but honestly, having your insult removed doesn't harm you at all. And getting all pissed that your post was edited but someone else's earlier in another thread wasn't really a valid argument.

I invite you to look at it this way, there are speed limits and speed signs posted everywhere. And you know it's against the law to speed. But many of us still drive over the speed limit and we all see others driving over it. But if you get pulled over I invite you to get all pissy with the cop and tell him he's biased against whatever type of car you're driving, or color of shirt you're wearing, or whatever excuse you can think of as justification of complaining that you were caught speeding while others were not.

Moderating this forum is similar, we don't catch all the speeders but if we catch you it's not personal, we're just trying to stop as many speeders as we can.

And to continue this shitty simile, if the only punishment the cop gave you was to wag his finger at you and tell you to stop I think all of us would be speeding all the time.

In other words, we don't need more rules in this forum, we need real penalties for continually breaking them.

Now a few months back I publicly announced that I would be trying out banning people from individual threads when they repeatedly insulted people. I'll be the first to admit, that didn't do much to stop the personal insults.

So now were going to try something more severe.

3 strikes and you get the rest of the year off!

That's right, 3 personal insults against anyone but me and you'll be banned until Jan 1st, 2019.

Now I'm very hopeful that this will not only get you to reduce your personal insults but I'm also hoping this will encourage you to use one of the many ways there are to bring personal insults to our attention so we can take care of them quicker.

But wait... there's more!

As an added bonus, next week I'm picking up a dozen shirts from the Blazers to give away on the forum. The first one banned for personal insults for the rest of the year will win a FREE SHIRT! This is being done to show that I truly love all of you and to allow you to save face by saying you wanted to get banned for the shirt.

There are two people that will have conditions placed on them for this excellent contest:

@Cippy91 - You are in violation of the agreement that we reached when you were unbanned. You said you weren't going to post in the OT section anymore but I don't care about that. The only reason I'm bringing it up is because if I really didn't like you like you've claimed in the past I would have used that as a reason to ban you again. I like you, I would love it if you showed up to a forum get together sometime. That said, I'm going to ask you again to delete the personal insults you posted the other day. When I asked you very politely the other day to delete them you claimed you were baited and pretty much blew me off. You were told no more personal insults and I mean it. Now please go and remove them. If you don't you will be gone. And if you do then you'll be allowed to participate in this new 3 strikes personal insult contest.

Marzy - I have carefully looked at your accusations against Chris Craig and find that they have no merit. Chris has not abused his limited mod powers or used them against you. Your continued public insults against him have to stop. If you choose not to I will ban you. But 3 personal insults against anyone(s) besides me can get you a free shirt!


"And may the odds be ever in your favor!"​
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Why can’t I see this thread?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Saying someone doesn't have balls is an insult. Then saying this is a challenge means you're not joking.



But it's also clear that he baited you into posting that.
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Wow. K. Your posts are going to be annoying about it huh? Context doesnt matter and we can't joke in such a manner even though it's obvious? Aight.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
You're fun to spin up.
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And if you're trying to make this forum a better place you shouldn't write a novel in seriousness then joke about the same stuff. Insults aren't strictly defined, so if that was actually going to be considered one, then I'd get banned off of that stuff within a week.
 
BonesJones said:
And if you're trying to make this forum a better place you shouldn't write a novel in seriousness then joke about the same stuff. Insults aren't strictly defined, so if that was actually going to be considered one, then I'd get banned off of that stuff within a week.
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Okay.
 
BonesJones said:
And if you're trying to make this forum a better place you shouldn't write a novel in seriousness then joke about the same stuff. Insults aren't strictly defined, so if that was actually going to be considered one, then I'd get banned off of that stuff within a week.
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Well within.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I have spent a long time thinking about the many complaints and problems and the few suggestions and ideas on how to make things better.

Things have gotten so out of hand and so ugly that changes must be made.

Now before we go into all that I would to explain a few things so everyone knows where I'm coming from.

Fuck it, I've been sitting here for an hour trying to think of a polite and friendly way to say all of this and I'm not getting anywhere.

New Rules: There will be no new rules.

I'm not seeing problems in the main section of the forum and with the vast majority of members who post here. The problems what we're having are primarily with the same handful of people over and over. Yes, there are some that slip up but those are easily handled and not a continuing problem.

I'm also not seeing problems that we've never had before that would require new rules.

The problem is Personal Insults.

Grey area: Holy fucking hell I am so sorry I ever posted that in passing. Some of you have latched on to that not as a problem but as a justification to insult others. If "grey area" was truly the problem it would pretty much be the only forum of personal insults we see on here. It's not.

Baiting: HAHAHAHAHAH! Baiting? Really? We're all adults here, if you're actually saying that you can be "baited" into insulting someone then that is on you. Can someone bait you into posting you're credit card number in the forum? Can someone bait into posting child porn here? Of course not, that's silly. Just like it's silly to say that someone has baited you posting personal insults. Baiting is just excuse.

Mods/Staff: I have doubled the amount of staff in the forum in the last 6 months. They are people who understand that this is a community and want to make it better. They are good guys. All of the complaints about them I have taken seriously and have looked into them. I have not found examples or proof of what some of you have been accusing them of. I will always listen to your complaints and concerns but let's be honest, the people complaining the most about the staff are the ones breaking the rules.

Mods/Staff Part 2: This forum has limited resources and our greatest resource are the people who have volunteered to help run this community. The amount of staff/resources that are going to handle the petty bullshit in the OT has to stop. It is hurting other areas of the forum, it isn't fun and it wasn't what they signed up.

Now before I say where I'm going with all of this I want give you a bit of an example of what some of the problems are.

Orion Bailey, I first want to say I truly like you. I'm not picking on you. I'm only using this as an example as to what some of the problems are here and hopefully by doing so it will help everyone.

So today, OB brought up some complaints and accusations about the staff and our bias.

When he made them he was nice enough to provide a link to an example of what he was talking about.

When I clicked on the link sure as shit it was a personal insult from HCP to him from Oct 18th. Sitting there completely unedited, right out in the open. I immediately deleted it. That is not acceptable.

Now his complaint was we as a staff are biased against him and allowing HCP to get away with things that others are not.

And at first glance, he was right.

But then I started reading through the rest of the thread. And for whatever reason, the thread was full of personal insults including some by OB that were completely unedited or deleted.

So that kind of kills the bias thing doesn't it? I mean you can't claim that because we didn't edit HCP's personal insult that means we're favoring him when the insults you posted also went unedited.

It doesn't prove bias, it proves we're human and that thread got missed.

So then I started digging further, pulling up flagged messages logs, Private Messages from that date, and if any of the staff were tagged in that thread in order to draw their attention to the insults in the thread.

No. No attempt was made on that date or afterwards until today to get staff to address the problem.

Instead this really feels like it was saved as a way to prove how bad the staff is.

Now I'm not trying to pick on OB or embarrass him. I'm truly trying to use this as an example of how dysfunctional this has become for everyone involved. As soon as OB brought this to our attention I immediately removed HCPs insult and Chris Craig cleaned up the rest of the thread. In other words, we did what OB really wanted us to do but it didn't happen until OB took the time to bring it to our attention.

It's impossible to read every post in this forum. There are 5 of us and 100s of you. To assume that we are playing favorites or don't like you because we don't edit a personal insult is just factually wrong.

I'm not telling you this, I'm asking to help us and let us show you that is true.

Instead of waiting over a month to say, "You missed one, this is proof you're bias!" How about telling us when you first saw it instead of immediately insulting them back. And if you were just too pissed off to tell anyone at the time then how about going back and cleaning up your own personal insults and then tell us and we'll clean up the ones that were made against you.

Another example, as I was sitting here trying to figure out how to say all this I start getting notifications... ping...ping... So I leave a half finished paragraph and open up notifications. I'm being tagged in the game thread. I click on it and sure enough there is a problem. I removed the person who was having a bit of a meltdown from the game thread, thanked the person who tagged me, and the sent a Private Message to the person I removed from the game thread to try and find out if there is an additional problem that I was not aware of or maybe he's just having a bad day.

Someone was having a problem, someone else brought it to the staff's attention, staff dealt with it quickly, fairly, and respectfully.

...

Now where am I going with all this?

As I said before, I don't think the continued problem with personal insults is because we don't have enough rules. I also don't think it's a problem with staff.

After much consideration I think the problem is there are no real penalties for continually making personal insults. Having your post edited or deleted is not a deterrent. I mean to hear some of you freak the fuck out over it you would think that for every one your posts that are edited or deleted a giant cattle prod is being shoved up your ass and fired off but honestly, having your insult removed doesn't harm you at all. And getting all pissed that your post was edited but someone else's earlier in another thread wasn't really a valid argument.

I invite you to look at it this way, there are speed limits and speed signs posted everywhere. And you know it's against the law to speed. But many of us still drive over the speed limit and we all see others driving over it. But if you get pulled over I invite you to get all pissy with the cop and tell him he's biased against whatever type of car you're driving, or color of shirt you're wearing, or whatever excuse you can think of as justification of complaining that you were caught speeding while others were not.

Moderating this forum is similar, we don't catch all the speeders but if we catch you it's not personal, we're just trying to stop as many speeders as we can.

And to continue this shitty simile, if the only punishment the cop gave you was to wag his finger at you and tell you to stop I think all of us would be speeding all the time.

In other words, we don't need more rules in this forum, we need real penalties for continually breaking them.

Now a few months back I publicly announced that I would be trying out banning people from individual threads when they repeatedly insulted people. I'll be the first to admit, that didn't do much to stop the personal insults.

So now were going to try something more severe.

3 strikes and you get the rest of the year off!

That's right, 3 personal insults against anyone but me and you'll be banned until Jan 1st, 2019.

Now I'm very hopeful that this will not only get you to reduce your personal insults but I'm also hoping this will encourage you to use one of the many ways there are to bring personal insults to our attention so we can take care of them quicker.

But wait... there's more!

As an added bonus, next week I'm picking up a dozen shirts from the Blazers to give away on the forum. The first one banned for personal insults for the rest of the year will win a FREE SHIRT! This is being done to show that I truly love all of you and to allow you to save face by saying you wanted to get banned for the shirt.

There are two people that will have conditions placed on them for this excellent contest:

@Cippy91 - You are in violation of the agreement that we reached when you were unbanned. You said you weren't going to post in the OT section anymore but I don't care about that. The only reason I'm bringing it up is because if I really didn't like you like you've claimed in the past I would have used that as a reason to ban you again. I like you, I would love it if you showed up to a forum get together sometime. That said, I'm going to ask you again to delete the personal insults you posted the other day. When I asked you very politely the other day to delete them you claimed you were baited and pretty much blew me off. You were told no more personal insults and I mean it. Now please go and remove them. If you don't you will be gone. And if you do then you'll be allowed to participate in this new 3 strikes personal insult contest.

Marzy - I have carefully looked at your accusations against Chris Craig and find that they have no merit. Chris has not abused his limited mod powers or used them against you. Your continued public insults against him have to stop. If you choose not to I will ban you. But 3 personal insults against anyone(s) besides me can get you a free shirt!


"And may the odds be ever in your favor!"​
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You're doing fine. As long as you delete the other guy and leave me alone, you're doing fine. Did I mention my substantial contribution to the SlyPokerDog Foundation?
 
riverman said:
Joking aside...you guys do good work around here … and I for one am glad to see the ban hammer return...it's overdue sadly
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Lookie here, snowflake, tell him some of the things you told me about him. Where's the part about him being an asshole? Did you forget already how he can just go fuck off? Did you not want to say the part about him being a big old pile of steaming dog shit? Things I'd never say, by the way. All I ever wanted to say was to remind him of my impending large donation to the SlyPokerDog Foundation.
 
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