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If they did the Top 50 over today, who would be bumped off and replaced with? Plane is about to take off....... Didn't have a chance to post list of the 50...... If somebody could help find it.....ah shit, gotta go!


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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Tiny Archibald
Paul Arizin
Charles Barkley
Rick Barry
Elgin Baylor
Dave Bing
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlain
Bob Cousy
Dave Cowens
Billy Cunningham
Dave DeBusschere
Clyde Drexler
Julius Erving
Patrick Ewing
Walt Frazier
George Gervin
Hal Greer
John Havlicek
Elvin Hayes
Magic Johnson
Sam Jones
Michael Jordan
Jerry Lucas
Karl Malone
Moses Malone
Pete Maravich
Kevin McHale
George Mikan
Earl Monroe
Shaquille ONeal
Hakeem Olajuwon
Robert Parish
Bob Pettit
Scottie Pippen
Willis Reed
Oscar Robertson
David Robinson
Bill Russell
Dolph Schayes
Bill Sharman
John Stockton
Isiah Thomas
Nate Thurmond
Wes Unseld
Bill Walton
Jerry West
Lenny Wilkens
James Worthy
 
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assuming Lebron, Kobe, and Duncan would be added just off the top of my head

would KG bump someone off?

Gary Payton?

Reggie Miller?
 
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Eras are so different and they are all so good. I don't think you can bump anyone (without a big argument) but some should be added.
 
The funny thing is, half those guys probably wouldn't be able to do shit in the league today. Athletes have changed so much in the last fifty years. Some of the players would still be great (Wilt, Dr J, Maravich) but I think some of them would fall by the wayside. Someone like Kobe would have dominated in the 60s and 70s. Of course, I think he would also have cried like a bitch when someone like Mo Lucas punched him in the mouth and was only fined $25.
 
The guys I always thought were borderline on that list was Parrish, Worthy and Lucas.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The funny thing is, half those guys probably wouldn't be able to do shit in the league today. Athletes have changed so much in the last fifty years. Some of the players would still be great (Wilt, Dr J, Maravich) but I think some of them would fall by the wayside. Someone like Kobe would have dominated in the 60s and 70s. Of course, I think he would also have cried like a bitch when someone like Mo Lucas punched him in the mouth and was only fined $25.
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Players who were top-5 in the 50s would be at least above-average starters today. Stars of the 60s would be stars today, though short.

MickZagger said:
The guys I always thought were borderline on that list was Parrish, Worthy and Lucas.
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Especially Worthy, who was just a Laker, nothing more. Tom Chambers was a lot better. Aldridge is between those two.
 
Serious question here. Isn't it to early to have LeBron on the list?
 
I don't like this top 50 list and I think it's unfair. I would much rather do a top 30 list for positions...Guards, Forwards and Centers.. That would make it much for fair than just combining all the players into the top 50 slots. Or you could do guards. small forwards then power forward\centers.
 
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A.I. In his prime would light up almost every one of those guards for 40........


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It is hard enough to compare players who didn't play against each other. A list like this forces you to try to compare players who played in different eras.

How do you compare a SuperStar from the Celtics era who was great, but never won thanks to the dominance of the Celtics vs a SuperStar from the Jordan era who was great, but never won thanks to the GOAT standing in their way?

So many guys had amazing stats, and the separator is supposed to be leading your team to a ring. But if Bill Russell or Jordan were in front of you should they be penalized? If you were the 2nd best player on a team that won multiple rings, do you get credit for that or get penalized?

I think the list should be split up at this point: the 40 greatest players until the Bird/Magic era - 50's, 60's & 70's. Then a new 40 greatest list of the modern era.
 
You could sort the list by height, position, or decade. The 60s (radicals), 70s (hippies), 80s (Reagan lovers), 90s (Newt lovers), 00s (warmongers), and 10s (defeatists).
 
As much as I loved him, something tells me Pip might get pushed off.
 
dviss1 said:
As much as I loved him, something tells me Pip might get pushed off.
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No way!! Pippen took the Bulls further without Jordan than Jordan did without Pippen and your going to push Pippen off the list?
 
BigGameDamian said:
No way!! Pippen took the Bulls further without Jordan than Jordan did without Pippen and your going to push Pippen off the list?
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That has absolutely nothing to do with whether a player is a top 50 guy or not.
 
dviss1 said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with whether a player is a top 50 guy or not.
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Well Pippen proved that he could put a team on his back and carry them better than Jordan could. That's my beef that I have when people that talk about Jordan being so much better than Pippen.
 
dviss1 said:
As much as I loved him, something tells me Pip might get pushed off.
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I don't see it, personally... while I do think a lot of Robins get pushed off as new Batmans come in, Pippen is pretty much the best Robin of all time.
 
Yeah I think you can add Pippen to a lot of championship teams and he might have a more beneficial impact than Jordan. Think of that Lakers team around 2002 that went 15-2 in the playoffs and won the title. If you pair Pippen with an in his prime Shaq and Kobe I think that may be a better overall team than Jordan/Kobe/Shaq. Kobe paired with Jordan would be redundant.
 
Well the top 50 was made up during the 50th anniversary of the NBA in 1996. So what will probably happen is at 75(2021) they will do the top 75 then 100 and so on. Doubt they take away from the list.
 
sjla2kology101 said:
Well the top 50 was made up during the 50th anniversary of the NBA in 1996. So what will probably happen is at 75(2021) they will do the top 75 then 100 and so on. Doubt they take away from the list.
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So you're saying there's still a chance I can make the list?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So you're saying there's still a chance I can make the list?
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I'm 30 and didn't get hardcore about basketball until I was around 12. Therefore, I have very little basis for judging a good chunk of those players aside from stats and stories throughout the years. Anyone else having that problem?
 
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SheedSoNasty said:
I'm 30 and didn't get hardcore about basketball until I was around 12. Therefore, I have very little basis for judging a good chunk of those players aside from stats and stories throughout the years. Anyone else having that problem?
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I'm 21... So yes, I'm right there with you. I tend to just stay out of these discussions.
 
Sharman, Jones...Celtic Robins to Russell and Cousy
Gervin...not as skilled as Drexler...played less defense, ABA-style
Greer...the same as Cheeks

Wilkes...as good as Worthy, not on the list
 
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