OT Nic Batum quote on Charlotte: "First time I got to play like I want to in eight years in the NBA."

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Batum enjoying another first round exit. Some bad GM will throw a huge contract at him and hope after 8 seasons he'll actually find a way to create his own shot.
 
I think it's total BS. Maybe under Nate, but Terry gave him carte blanche.

If he really thinks he needed to be told that he was one of our top two players, A) he was never one of our top two most talented players, and B) he's no different than LaMarsha.
 
Nic has no obligation to praise Portland, but Terry gave him every opportunity to shine here.

I have no hard feelings towards Nic, he's just being politically correct.
 
Yeah, the first 4 years under Nate he was seriously under utilized (Nic, go stand in the corner and only shoot if you are wide open, don't try to do anything else). But, he started to flourish under Stotts with a much more active role as a distributor and ball handler.

It's true, his scoring, assists and FGA were all career highs this season, but I think the biggest difference is he was moved to SG. Different team, different position, different role. Still, other than last year, when he was playing injured and quite frankly sucked, his numbers in CHO this year we're THAT much of an increase over his first two years under Stotts. The real transition was from Nate to Stotts, not from Stotts to Clifford. With Brandon Roy and then Wesley Matthews, it's not like Nic was going to ever be a starting SG in POR. CHO was a good fit for him. He finally got to play SG and had a decent season in a contract year. Good for him. Bad for whoever signs him to his next ridiculous contract.

BNM
 
yuyuza1 said:
Fwiw, he got hurt again this year in a crucial stretch and missed time in the playoffs. Directly led to yet another first round loss.

Love Nic, but buyer beware.
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Didn't they play better without him? I didn't watch any of the games but I thought I heard they won when he was out.
 
The big knock on Batum was he was endlessly inconsistent here in Portland. I have not watched many of his games this season. But just looking at his game log, he has been much more consistent there than here. Maybe he has a legitimate point.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Didn't they play better without him? I didn't watch any of the games but I thought I heard they won when he was out.
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Just looked it up, your right. Charlotte did win most of their games without Batum. The few games they lost without him they probably would have lost anyway (Warriors & OKC come to mind).
 
Nic's FA status and his improved play this year is good for us. While other teams are lining up to throw away their money, we can steal someone else that's under the radar. Well played Neil Olshey. Send a guy in the last year of his deal to a situation where he'll flourish as a smoke screen that will allow you to sneak in a nab the player you REALLY want.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Nic's FA status and his improved play this year is good for us. While other teams are lining up to throw away their money, we can steal someone else that's under the radar. Well played Neil Olshey. Send a guy in the last year of his deal to a situation where he'll flourish as a smoke screen that will allow you to sneak in a nab the player you REALLY want.

BNM
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Chandy?
 
Parsons made it seem like he's going back to Dallas, but even if he wasn't that injury history scares me and he doesn't seem like a good enough defensive player to put around Dame and CJ.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Nic's FA status and his improved play this year is good for us. While other teams are lining up to throw away their money, we can steal someone else that's under the radar. Well played Neil Olshey. Send a guy in the last year of his deal to a situation where he'll flourish as a smoke screen that will allow you to sneak in a nab the player you REALLY want.

BNM
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Neil is gonna pounce on that undervalued, under the radar Durant fella.
 
B-Roy said:
Parsons made it seem like he's going back to Dallas, but even if he wasn't that injury history scares me and he doesn't seem like a good enough defensive player to put around Dame and CJ.
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I wanted Parsons before he went down again. He seems to be injury prone.
 
oldfisherman said:
Just looked it up, your right. Charlotte did win most of their games without Batum. The few games they lost without him they probably would have lost anyway (Warriors & OKC come to mind).
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I don't think the sample size is sufficient to reach any conclusions. Nic was flat out just a good fit in CHO. He helped them go from 33 wins to 48 wins even though Al Jefferson missed half the season. Of course, Kemba Walker had a breakout year, but I think that's at least partially due to Nic being such a good fit next to him at SG. Nic's ball handling and distribution relieved Kemba of some of those duties and let him focus more on being a scorer, which worked well for him and worked well for CHO.

In spite of how bad he sucked his last season in POR (for whatever reasons), he was a good fit in CHO this year and helped them to their best season in the last 16 years. Contract year coincidence? Doesn't matter. Somebody will pay him, but it won't be us.

BNM
 
Poor Nic..... say it ain't so. And what's worse is he had to replace his favorite Bordeaux vintage with a local selection. No wonder no one wants to come here!
 
Natebishop3 said:
Neil is gonna pounce on that undervalued, under the radar Durant fella.
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That would be great, but being more realistic, I think Neil will go for two doubles instead of one home run. Of course, you go all in on Durant if you have a chance, but this team has enough holes that upgrading two starters would be ALMOST as good as landing one super star. Ok, not ALMOST as good, but if you're not going to get Durant anyway, two new, improved starters wouldn't be a bad off season.

BNM
 
Another Nic alternative for us who will be a FA next summer (prolly available in trade this year): Gallo. He averaged 8 FTs/ gm this past season, and was still plagued with minor injuries again.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Another Nic alternative for us who will be a FA next summer (prolly available in trade this year): Gallo. He averaged 8 FTs/ gm this past season, and was still plagued with minor injuries again.
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Ugh.

Two way players please. We have way too many one way players.
 
B-Roy said:
Ugh.

Two way players please. We have way too many one way players.
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It's about availability, man. We're not getting Jimmy Butler/PG/ Giannis/Iggy. How many wing defenders can score off the dribble, shoot, and put up a consistent 15-18 a game? If we can't get one of these true two way players, we gotta just build with what we have and fill in those defensive needs at PF and C.

Besides, I think Parsons and Gallo are comparable defenders to Nic. Prolly better in some aspects.

Barnes maybe?
 
One thing to say about Nico......contract season...his best with us was also....yep...a contract season. He sucked in their game 7 loss and I watched that game.
 
yuyuza1 said:
It's about availability, man. We're not getting Jimmy Butler/PG/ Giannis/Iggy. How many wing defenders can score off the dribble, shoot, and put up a consistent 15-18 a game? If we can't get one of these true two way players, we gotta just build with what we have and fill in those defensive needs at PF and C.

Besides, I think Parsons and Gallo are comparable defenders to Nic. Prolly better in some aspects.

Barnes maybe?
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Rather just keep the two that we have: Harkless and Aminu. Both are better defensive players than Gallo or Parsons.

I also like Crabbe at the 3. There aren't too many SFs that can actually take advantage of his soft frame, and the two players that can do it the best are in the east (LeBron and Melo). You lose a lot of defensive rebounding though, so it would be nice to have a dominant rebounding PF/C pair if you are gonna start Crabbe.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I wonder if Deng would be open to signing here at a reasonable price. He's kind of the player we need.

He's older but he would be a great vet to have.
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If Harkless is gone, maybe. Otherwise I don't see the minutes and I quite like Harkless better.

Not a bad single if nothing else worked, but I can't see how he would want to come here anyways if we don't guarantee him a starting role.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Another Nic alternative for us who will be a FA next summer (prolly available in trade this year): Gallo. He averaged 8 FTs/ gm this past season, and was still plagued with minor injuries again.
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Minor injuries? He's missed 134 games in the last three seasons. He's only had one reasonably healthy season in the last seven years. No thanks.

BNM
 
B-Roy said:
Rather just keep the two that we have: Harkless and Aminu. Both are better defensive players than Gallo or Parsons.

I also like Crabbe at the 3. There aren't too many SFs that can actually take advantage of his soft frame, and the two players that can do it the best are in the east (LeBron and Melo). You lose a lot of defensive rebounding though, so it would be nice to have a dominant rebounding PF/C pair if you are gonna start Crabbe.
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For me, power forward is the position I want to target. I think there are options out there at PF so we can plug a reasonable player into the starting lineup while we develop Vonleh.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Minor injuries? He's missed 134 games in the last three seasons. He's only had one reasonably healthy season in the last seven years. No thanks.

BNM
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I know. Was saying this year's issues were sorta minor.

Sorta.
 
Natebishop3 said:
For me, power forward is the position I want to target. I think there are options out there at PF so we can plug a reasonable player into the starting lineup while we develop Vonleh.
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Al Horford coming here would be celebration worthy.

Dame/Crabbe
CJ/Crabbe
Aminu/Harkless
Horford/Leonard
Plumlee/Davis

Ugh....
 
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