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It's not gloomy, it just underscores that it's pretty much a use it or lose it scenario this summer ... or if Olshey does want to keep it, then be prepared for a really, really terrible team next year and a high lotto pick (I could live with that).
 
Not gloomy at all. If they want to spend their cap space, they need to do it this year is all.
 
Keeping capspace without having a target in mind is a huge waste of time. Then you start throwing big money at the Hedo Turkuglus of the world.

use it and deal with it later is the best approach. tanking is stupid, especially if there is no projected franchise player coming out next year.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Keeping capspace without having a target in mind is a huge waste of time. Then you start throwing big money at the Hedo Turkuglus of the world.

use it and deal with it later is the best approach. tanking is stupid, especially if there is no projected franchise player coming out next year.
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WTF are you talking about? Next year's draft has 2 or 3 potential franchise players in it
 
Mediocre Man said:
WTF are you talking about? Next year's draft has 2 or 3 potential franchise players in it
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good for them. Like Kevin Durant level players? LeBron level? or are we talking John Wall types.

only way we get that bad is if Aldridge isn't playing next year.
 
Doesn't seem so gloomy to me. The article basically says "yes, we can tank this season, but if we do we'll have a really bad record!". Well, that's what tanking means.

barfo
 
still not convinced. if we are tanking and not making moves to preserve "imaginary cap space", then trade aldridge for fillers and resign to the fact we won't be a playoff team for the next 5 years.

no thanks.

we had 2 lottery picks this year and cap space and veteran players/all stars and that's the best its going to get really as far as getting the team better. regressing by trying to tank and clear more cap space would be a huge waste of time.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
still not convinced. if we are tanking and not making moves to preserve "imaginary cap space", then trade aldridge for fillers and resign to the fact we won't be a playoff team for the next 5 years.
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some spurs fan years ago said:
still not convinced. if we are tanking and not making moves to preserve "imaginary cap space", then trade robinson for fillers and resign to the fact we won't be a playoff team for the next 5 years.
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barfo
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
still not convinced. if we are tanking and not making moves to preserve "imaginary cap space", then trade aldridge for fillers and resign to the fact we won't be a playoff team for the next 5 years.

no thanks.

we had 2 lottery picks this year and cap space and veteran players/all stars and that's the best its going to get really as far as getting the team better.
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I think we agree on this. Not sure who you are arguing with?
 
barfo said:
barfo
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Robinson was out an entire year (like what I said LA had to be to get a lotto pick). Even then, Duncan was heralded as a once in a decade type of player. If there was a Duncan in this coming draft we would have already heard about him.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
people advocating continuing to build through the lottery. some people just enjoy having high lottery picks year after year.
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Who is advocating that? The point was made that if he decides to hold onto the money, then we will lose most of the money, suck bad this year, and end up with a top 3-4 pick in the draft with a few franchise players in it. No one is saying anything about continuing? However, if you look at successful small market teams in this day and age, they have been built through the draft
 
Basically: just spend the cap on whatever and trade later if you need to. holding on to it without any specific target, as I've always warned, is a crapshoot.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Who is advocating that? The point was made that if he decides to hold onto the money, then we will lose most of the money, suck bad this year, and end up with a top 3-4 pick in the draft with a few franchise players in it. No one is saying anything about continuing? However, if you look at successful small market teams in this day and age, they have been built through the draft
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What, OKC?

for that to happen we would need to get a Kevin Durant or LeBron type of player. That's the only way it works. And to do that we would have to have 3-4 seasons of absolute misery (like 15-20 win seasons) to make it happen. That isn't a plan, its just sucking on historically bad levels and putting faith in the bounce of ping pong balls.

The thing is, unless you can get those once every 5 year type of players (KD, LeBron, etc) that will lead the league in scoring, you're going to be a consistently bad team.

holding on to the money is stupid. unless we can use it later to absorb bigger contracts at the trade deadline for teams that want to blow it up.
 
If Hibbert falls through, I think we should just let Batum walk and tank for next summer.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If Hibbert falls through, I think we should just let Batum walk and tank for next summer.
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If that happens, might as well trade Aldridge and Matthews because I don't think they'll want to stick around on a lottery team for the next 3-4 years, which is what we'll be when we lose Aldridge.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
If that happens, might as well trade Aldridge and Matthews because I don't think they'll want to stick around on a lottery team for the next 3-4 years, which is what we'll be when we lose Aldridge.
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I'm fine with trading Aldridge if we can find the right deal. I don't want to trade him just to trade him.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
What, OKC?

for that to happen we would need to get a Kevin Durant or LeBron type of player. That's the only way it works. And to do that we would have to have 3-4 seasons of absolute misery (like 15-20 win seasons) to make it happen. That isn't a plan, its just sucking on historically bad levels and putting faith in the bounce of ping pong balls.

The thing is, unless you can get those once every 5 year type of players (KD, LeBron, etc) that will lead the league in scoring, you're going to be a consistently bad team.

holding on to the money is stupid. unless we can use it later to absorb bigger contracts at the trade deadline for teams that want to blow it up.
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And the only way for that to work is getting lucky in the lottery. Small market teams rarely build through FA anymore
 
Mediocre Man said:
And the only way for that to work is getting lucky in the lottery. Small market teams rarely build through FA anymore
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yeah, but we already had our luck in the lottery and have an all star player in his early prime AND cap space. there's not much more you can really ask for right now.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
yeah, but we already had our luck in the lottery and have an all star player in his early prime AND cap space. there's not much more you can really ask for right now.
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Except for a high end free agent to actually accept the money and come play in Portland
 
If we somehow land Hibbert. I'll feel pretty good about our current situation. A core of Lillard, Batum, Aldridge, and Hibbert is pretty good. The only thing we're really missing is a pure shooter. Babbitt could be that guy though, I guess. We'll just have to see how he progresses this season.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
good for them. Like Kevin Durant level players? LeBron level? or are we talking John Wall types.

only way we get that bad is if Aldridge isn't playing next year.
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http://www.basketball-reference.com...009&p5=irvinky01&y5=2012&p6=westbru01&y6=2009


Here is some stats for some of the top PG's in the league I could think of off the top of my head compared to Wall in everyone's first year. All between the ages of 19 and 21. Wall looks to be right in the mix, no?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Who is advocating that? The point was made that if he decides to hold onto the money, then we will lose most of the money, suck bad this year, and end up with a top 3-4 pick in the draft with a few franchise players in it. No one is saying anything about continuing? However, if you look at successful small market teams in this day and age, they have been built through the draft
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Miami?
 
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