Trade Nicholas Kristof for Governor?

[Lanny]

I have no idea who this guy is, but isn’t democracy all about allowing folks to vote for whoever they believe will represent their values the best? What a dumb law requiring residency to legally be allowed to run for office, if the voters care about that then they will vote for someone else. Allow the voters in the state to make that decision, not some dumb ass archaic law like that.

The voters accept this law else they'd vote for those that would change the law.
I wanted to get employed by the Cowlitz County PUD (public utility district) as an engineer but they said I had to live in the district to be employed by the district. I think the same goes for Portland.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I would agree that’s an important piece of critera, but shouldn’t I be the one making that choice as a voter in Oregon? Why do I need a law that prohibits someone from running for office? That simply limits my choice, and in the future the best candidate running may not be a resident of Oregon until they become governor. Would suck having to vote between Tina and whoever the Republican is simply because of this dumb law.

Should only Oregon residents be allowed to vote in Oregon? If we're going to allow non-residents to run for office we should allow non-residents to vote here.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make? Are you simply stating I am not allowed to complain about a law I don’t like?

You are free to complain about a law you don't like. And I am free to tell you to do something about it if it bothers you that much. You can't just willy nilly want to change laws immediately because it isn't working out how YOU want it. It is a process.

Having a governor from New York is stupid. They haven't even been around the state to know what issues we are even having.

 

[Stevenson]

You are free to complain about a law you don't like. And I am free to tell you to do something about it if it bothers you that much. You can't just willy nilly want to change laws immediately because it isn't working out how YOU want it. It is a process.

Having a governor from New York is stupid. They haven't even been around the state to know what issues we are even having.

The thing about Nick Kristoff however is that he is from here, owns a business in Yamhill, has many connections here. It's not like he has no connection. He has many.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

The thing about Nick Kristoff however is that he is from here, owns a business in Yamhill, has many connections here. It's not like he has no connection. He has many.

I know that. But a little different than someone living here and experiencing it.

If I move to New York and still have family living in Oregon. I can hear second hand about all the things going on and how Kate Brown is the worst. But, it is different than you living here.

 

[Voodoo]

You are free to complain about a law you don't like. And I am free to tell you to do something about it if it bothers you that much. You can't just willy nilly want to change laws immediately because it isn't working out how YOU want it. It is a process.

Having a governor from New York is stupid. They haven't even been around the state to know what issues we are even having.

Okay thanks for clarifying, I have never advocated for changing a law willy nilly. I am a random Oregonian complaining about a law in Oregon in the OT section of a basketball forum. I would have thought it obvious the guy arguing for more democracy not less would want to follow a democratic process for changing a law.

Maybe I wasn’t clear in my OP but I am simply making an observation that the law is anti democratic. I never argued the law should be overturned willy nilly, that is not at all what I have argued and I do not know where you’re getting that from that’s ridiculous.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Okay thanks for clarifying, I have never advocated for changing a law willy nilly. I am a random Oregonian complaining about a law in Oregon in the OT section of a basketball forum. I would have thought it obvious the guy arguing for more democracy not less would want to follow a democratic process for changing a law.

Maybe I wasn’t clear in my OP but I am simply making an observation that the law is anti democratic. I never argued the law should be overturned willy nilly, that is not at all what I have argued and I do not know where you’re getting that from that’s ridiculous.

Voting for an Oregon governor that isn't a resident of Oregon is what is ridiculous.

 

[Voodoo]

Should only Oregon residents be allowed to vote in Oregon? If we're going to allow non-residents to run for office we should allow non-residents to vote here.

Obviously yes only Oregonians should be allowed to vote, that’s silly and a poor analogy. You’re conflating who is allowed to vote versus who is allowed to run for office. The better analogy is should only white people be allowed to run for office?

If you’re going to make arbitrary restrictions on who can run, that would be the better analogy and demonstrates the distinction and danger inherent in creating these kinds of barriers to running for office.

 

[Voodoo]

Voting for an Oregon governor that isn't a resident of Oregon is what is ridiculous.

You may think so, and there is nothing wrong with your opinion. But it doesn’t change the fact of what I am arguing, the law is anti democratic. It is arbitrarily limiting who the voters are allowed to vote for. If the voters feel the same way as you, they will vote that way. IMO we don’t need a law that dictates who we can and cant vote for, that is not democracy.

Again for the record I have no idea who this guy is, I am simply arguing that the principle of preventing who can run more or less arbitrarily is bad.

 

[Voodoo]

Another question- what if someone who specializes in Oregon politics, economics, and works in Portland but lives in Vancouver were to run? They are almost certainly more aware of what’s going on in Oregon than the vast majority if Oregonians, but they legally wouldn’t be allowed to run.

Again the law is IMO bad and can and does limit the state from having potentially good to great candidates unnecessarily. Determining these “residency” requirements is left up to the SOS rather than the citizens of Oregon, I just don’t see the necessity of it.

 

[Voodoo]

Apparently only a handful of states agree with me, I only got to Kansas before I stopped but only two of those states I reviewed dont have similar requirements. Connecticut and Kansas, everyone else seems to put similar residency requirements in place.

https://ballotpedia.org/Qualifications_for_governor_in_each_state

 

[Hoopguru]

Should only Oregon residents be allowed to vote in Oregon? If we're going to allow non-residents to run for office we should allow non-residents to vote here.

why do we have to be a resident of anywhere?

 

[barfo]

why do we have to be a resident of anywhere?

So that you can be taxed. And licensed.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

So that you can be taxed. And licensed.

barfo

I was a licensed engineer in the state of Oregon while a resident of Washington and a licensed engineer in the state of Washington while a resident of Oregon. I know this holds true for doctors and lawyers so it probably holds true for everything except your driver's license.