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If we don't get Hibbert, I keep hearing that plan B is Spencer Hawes. PLEASE NO. It's not that he's a Republican (although he is), it's that he's charmin soft. He's a finesse scorer, when we need a bruiser. So my suggestion is: Greg Stiemsma. Boston just drafted Fab Melo so might not want to overpay Stiemsma.

(Of course, the same thing could be said of us and Meyers Leonard, but I think of Leonard as much more of a project, certainly defensively. Stiemsma is the nearest thing to a young Przybilla there is in the league.) I've liked Stiemsma since I saw him lock up Blake Griffin as an undrafted player in their first Summer League.
 
Who cares if he's a Republican? Hell, I'd take an anarchist cannibal if he can take some of the frontcourt pressure off of LMA.
 
Cannibals might lead to arrests and suspensions, which hurt the team. I'm ok with a fascist, though.
 
PapaG said:
Who cares if he's a Republican? Hell, I'd take an anarchist cannibal if he can take some of the frontcourt pressure off of LMA.
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I'd take the anarchist cannibal over the Republican.
 
re: Hawes, don't confuse "skilled" for soft. He's very polished and he has good court vision, and he's starting to figure out when to be confident and when to pass.

I'm not saying he's the Second Coming, and I'd much rather have Hibbert, and I wouldn't like to see us pay him Nic $$, but he's a decent young post player who's getting better. 24's nowhere close to "Big Man Prime"
 
I keep forgetting how young Hawes is. I wouldn't love it, but wouldn't hate it if we didn't get Hibbert. I think he can also play some high post as a decent passer, with LMA in there.
 
Again, no. We need another near-allstar or allstar caliber player as part of our nucleus, preferable SG or C. Once we get that, then we should discuss the SHs of the world.
 
BrianFromWA said:
re: Hawes, don't confuse "skilled" for soft. He's very polished and he has good court vision, and he's starting to figure out when to be confident and when to pass.

I'm not saying he's the Second Coming, and I'd much rather have Hibbert, and I wouldn't like to see us pay him Nic $$, but he's a decent young post player who's getting better. 24's nowhere close to "Big Man Prime"
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You don't think he's soft? I do. He's bad at defense and not a great rebounder. He doesn't score inside that much. He had a PER of 13.8 or lower his first four seasons in the league, and then in the 37 games he played last year he had a PER of 18. I don't trust the 18.
 
You go from the #2 FA this offseason to Spencer Hawes...

That's like going from a Porsche 911 to a more economical Honda Civic.
 
If we have to go Republican, Chris Dudley is a better center. But to decrease the deficit we should have Center by Committee. Dark horse candidates--Hickson and Juwan Howard. That would cut costs.
 
I think I'd rather just give Leonard a ton of minutes and suck next year and dip into the lotto.
 
Jason Quick: Spencer Hawes will also not be an option at center for Blazers unless market dries up. 1 minute ago
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If we don't get Hibbert, I keep hearing that plan B is Spencer Hawes. PLEASE NO. It's not that he's a Republican (although he is), it's that he's charmin soft. He's a finesse scorer, when we need a bruiser. So my suggestion is: Greg Stiemsma. Boston just drafted Fab Melo so might not want to overpay Stiemsma.

(Of course, the same thing could be said of us and Meyers Leonard, but I think of Leonard as much more of a project, certainly defensively. Stiemsma is the nearest thing to a young Przybilla there is in the league.) I've liked Stiemsma since I saw him lock up Blake Griffin as an undrafted player in their first Summer League.
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How can you write all this gibberish with no mention of the cost or scenario it would take to get him?

If he was free, should we still say no to Hawes?

Gibberish.
 
I'd much rather have Hickson as the starting C

STOMP
 
Hawes is the player we used to bring Oden back against to give him self-confidence. Dude's SOFT SOFT SOFT.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Hawes is the player we used to bring Oden back against to give him self-confidence. Dude's SOFT SOFT SOFT.
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??
they played eachother three times, within the first month of Greg's rookie season here. He scored 18 points. Total. How was that bringing him back to build his confidence exactly?
 
RR7 said:
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they played eachother three times, within the first month of Greg's rookie season here. He scored 18 points. Total. How was that bringing him back to build his confidence exactly?
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Oden did rebound very well against Hawes. Other than that, he was pretty much a non-factor, other than his usual plethora of fouls.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...equest=1&p1=hawessp01&p2=odengr01#stats::none

Player G W L GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

Greg Oden 3 3 0 2 19.7 2.3 5.0 .467 0.0 0.0 1.3 2.0 .667 2.3 5.7 8.0 1.7 0.3 0.0 1.3 3.7 6.0
Spencer Hawes 3 0 3 2 33.7 4.3 11.3 .382 1.3 2.3 .571 2.7 2.7 1.000 1.3 3.0 4.3 2.0 1.7 2.3 2.0 2.3 12.7

Oddly, Hawes averaged 2.3 bpg against a Blazer team with Oden, while Oden didn't block a single shot.
 
blazerboy30 said:
How can you write all this gibberish with no mention of the cost or scenario it would take to get him?

If he was free, should we still say no to Hawes?

Gibberish.
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I think he just wanted to impress everyone by naming a relatively unknown player that he can pat himself if he ever became an impact player. Its the Ramon Sessions Syndrome.
 
RR7 said:
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they played eachother three times, within the first month of Greg's rookie season here. He scored 18 points. Total. How was that bringing him back to build his confidence exactly?
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Shit I must have been thinking of someone else. I'll have to go look it up.

(EDIT): I think it was Biedrins. My bad.
 
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blazerboy30 said:
How can you write all this gibberish with no mention of the cost or scenario it would take to get him?
If he was free, should we still say no to Hawes?
Gibberish.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
I think he just wanted to impress everyone by naming a relatively unknown player that he can pat himself if he ever became an impact player. Its the Ramon Sessions Syndrome.
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Wow. Are there Hawes family members on the board?
1. Hawes is a UFA. He is tall. Omer Asik just scored a $25M contract. You do the math.
2. You haven't heard of Stiemsma? I honestly assumed that he was pretty well-known. The Celtics are on TV all the time, and he played a fair amount in the playoffs. I'm sorry if I somehow made you feel ignorant. Perhaps this will help.

[video=youtube;9Oi0aKZoOkM]

Here's the Stiemsma-vs.-Griffin-in-Summer-League I mentioned:

[video=youtube;NzCzZZFYqM8]
 
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am guessing that block was preseason
 
how can you say no to this:

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/02/spencer_hawes_pays_fashionable.php

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