Noah Vonleh... and discuss

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ThugginPaulyGAllen said:
First of all, Batum is one of the best ball handling SFs in the entire league as well as play makers from that position in regards to his passing ability. He is one of the very few capable of being a point forward. I don't see anyone advocating that.

Second, uh, what? When is the last time any SF brought the ball up and initiated the offense outside of LeBron (who complained about it and gave the duties to Matthew Dele)...

It is of my opinion you think all SFS should be in the Batum mold, playmaking point forwards. Vonleh CLEARLY would not be that.
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I can think of 5 off the top of my head. Prince, Pippen, Batum, Odom, and Grant Hill.
 
BBert said:
Vonleh a SF?

Haha. That's a good one.

He's a Post 4.5 to compliment Meyers' Stretch 4.5 :)
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Why is it such a laugh? Think Wallace/Grant or Wallace/Robinson they did well together. Vonleh appears to be more of a shooter/penetrator/finisher than a post up guy.
 
HailBlazers said:
You know a lot about the game and I respect your opinion. However, the fact is Meyers slowed Gasol down better than anyone during a portion of the series. Multiple post-ups resulted in missed shots by Gasol with Leonard on him.
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Meyers absolutely did that as well as any other big Portland had especially later in the series. Compared to the lost 'deer in the headlights' version of Leonar_, he actually bodied him up, held his ground and challenged shots. I'd like to see the matchup comparisons for the last couple of games when Leonard guarded Gasol and I'll bet they are quite good especially given where Meyers was coming from in terms of improvement.
 
i wouldnt say light bulb, people have been commenting on him learning to put his arms straight up for a year or so. its a slow gradual improvement, but maybe like someone you see every day, you havent noticed because you havent bothered to actually look.

i think the playoffs were exciting for the fans because as we watched the games, Gasol was clearly having a tougher go of it against Nards than he was against Rolo. im not sure where you were going with the "gasols numbers and usage", but it was pretty obvious that Nards was playing decent defense.
 
Just curious. Should we get attached to him since he will probably be traded in a couple of years? I mean why put names on the back of the jerseys?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i wouldnt say light bulb, people have been commenting on him learning to put his arms straight up for a year or so. its a slow gradual improvement, but maybe like someone you see every day, you havent noticed because you havent bothered to actually look.

i think the playoffs were exciting for the fans because as we watched the games, Gasol was clearly having a tougher go of it against Nards than he was against Rolo. im not sure where you were going with the "gasols numbers and usage", but it was pretty obvious that Nards was playing decent defense.
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I hope thats the case
 
Mediocre Man said:
Has he? He makes jumpers. His % are down since rookie year. Some things up, some things down.

Stotts thought as much last year too. Look at his DNP.
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How can you say his % went down when last year was the first real year he actually got enough minutes to do a decent comparison?

You do know he was a 50/50/90 last year right?

It was rather obvious to just about everyone that Meyers made significant strides last year, compared to his rookie to second year.
 
magnifier661 said:
I can think of 5 off the top of my head. Prince, Pippen, Batum, Odom, and Grant Hill.
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I meant last year as his was post was talking about the modern NBA.

Edit - even then - Pippen was the only who was pretty much even a half time PG. And that's 5 people in the last 15 years you listed. I know there are more but that's the point I was making.

Not all SFs are ballhandling play making machines.
 
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ripcityboy said:
That's true. We lost three free agents for nothing. Forgot about that.
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I can only assume you are referencing Lopez and Matthews, neither of which even received offers - and honestly - they shouldn't have at that market evaluation they received. Don't understand the complaints.

You really wanted Wes at 16 mill and lopez at 14 mill? Would've lost all our cap space and been significantly worse.
 
ThugginPaulyGAllen said:
I can only assume you are referencing Lopez and Matthews, neither of which even received offers - and honestly - they shouldn't have at that market evaluation they received. Don't understand the complaints.

You really wanted Wes at 16 mill and lopez at 14 mill? Would've lost all our cap space and been significantly worse.
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The TRUTH!!!
 
Any player who can put the ball on the floor and finish in traffic is an upgrade. Vonleh can do that it looks like. At his age he's coachable and Meyers isn't exactly a surly guy..I think it's a young players dream to be in Portland right now instead of buried behind some old vets forever. Once they put on those pinwheels and step into their first homegame they'll get the fever!
 
ripcityboy said:
I mean why put names on the back of the jerseys?
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Masks.

No name on the jersey, no faces, just "gladiator #12". No interviews or speaking in public either.

Knowing how some fans are, they would still give them nicknames and get attached.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Has he? He makes jumpers. His % are down since rookie year. Some things up, some things down.

Stotts thought as much last year too. Look at his DNP.
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He has greatly improved, and it's clear he's done enough that (most of) the fan base is excited about him all of a sudden, and the team is counting on him to continue the growth, enough so they've basically pushed him out there as an integral part of the future.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Masks.

No name on the jersey, no faces, just "gladiator #12". No interviews or speaking in public either.

Knowing how some fans are, they would still give them nicknames and get attached.
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Good thing this city doesn't have an NFL team. Players get tossed aside like Taylor Swift goes through boyfriends.
 
ripcityboy said:
That's true. We lost three free agents for nothing. Forgot about that.
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I thought we returned them to the talent pool in exchange for cap space. I think we've still got $20 million left or something like that?
 
BBert said:
I thought we returned them to the talent pool in exchange for cap space. I think we've still got $20 million left or something like that?
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True, but in free-agent-repellent Portland, that's basically the same thing as nothing.
 
He reminds me a little bit of Shareef Abdur-Rahim, who eventually shifted to power forward.
 
Orion Bailey said:
How can you say his % went down when last year was the first real year he actually got enough minutes to do a decent comparison?

You do know he was a 50/50/90 last year right?

It was rather obvious to just about everyone that Meyers made significant strides last year, compared to his rookie to second year.
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Ok
 
Natebishop3 said:
He reminds me a little bit of Shareef Abdur-Rahim, who eventually shifted to power forward.
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Shareef was always a PF in Atlanta. Wasn't it Cheeks dumb ass who tried to turn him into a SF? Yup.. Failed experiment...
 
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