Noah Vonleh - thoughts

[rotary111]

We need hustle guys like this coming off the bench. Pat Connaughton and Noah could be fun to watch!

Bring on summer league!

 

[Natebishop3]

You guys keep saying Noah and I keep thinking about Joakim.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Including Vonleh in the deal was just a PR stunt. "Look, we traded Batum for a top 10 pick!"

The kid may have great measurements - but he has about 1/10 the skills of a guy like RoLo or Plumlee. The NBA calls guys like Vonleh a "project." MLB calls them "tools goofs." The vast majority of these guys sink like a lead weight and don't even leave a ripple to mark their passage.

Isn't that what the draft has become? All these young guys are to some extent a "project". So do we just go after seniors who are safer, or do we occasionally take a swing for the fences? I think a little of both. At least Neil brought him in last year and evaluated him closely. I would be more worried if he was just looking at last year's lottery and got excited over getting a top 10 pick.

Teams have to do their homework for sure. They have to determine who has the drive and ability to get better.
I have no idea on Vonleh. I will assume Neil does.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Isn't that what the draft has become? All these young guys are to some extent a "project". So do we just go after seniors who are safer, or do we occasionally take a swing for the fences? I think a little of both. At least Neil brought him in last year and evaluated him closely. I would be more worried if he was just looking at last year's lottery and got excited over getting a top 10 pick.

Teams have to do their homework for sure. They have to determine who has the drive and ability to get better.
I have no idea on Vonleh. I will assume Neil does.

Sadly, that is largely what the draft has become. That's also why I wanted RHJ - this was a kid who already shown a willingness to work on his skills.

I hope Vonleh beats the odds, but I just can't get excited about him.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Sadly, that is largely what the draft has become. That's also why I wanted RHJ - this was a kid who already shown a willingness to work on his skills.

I hope Vonleh beats the odds, but I just can't get excited about him.

Yeah I wanted him too, but even RHJ had something he needed to get much better at.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Can he really shoot the three-pointer, as his statistics suggest?

"Yes and no. He has an outside game, but Clifford correctly advised him to concentrate first on being a true big man, not someone reliant on jump shots. Vonleh is a power forward headed toward center, not a power forward headed toward small forward. He's athletic for a 5, not for a 3. So Clifford told him to focus on his post moves, be physical, and use the jump shot as a counter move, not a first resort."

LINK​

 

[Scalma]

Yeah trading for Vonleh was a PR stunt you are so right dude why didn't I think of that! God you are so money.

 

[HailBlazers]

LINK​

"That dynamic was amplified by a sports hernia he suffered after summer league. He missed all of training camp and most of the preseason. No Hornets player needed training camp more than Vonleh (Hairston was different because he'd played in the D-League). Then, once he was recovered, the Hornets had a first month dense with games -- 18 in the first 31 days. That meant next to no practice and he didn't catch up until April."

Explains even more why he got little burn. Dude sounds allot like young Meyers, hopefully he'll catch-on to defense and rebounding faster, things that will garner him minutes.

 

[Blazinaway]

Explains even more why he got little burn. Dude sounds allot like young Meyers, hopefully he'll catch-on to defense and rebounding faster, things that will garner him minutes.

hopefully he can come to Por and work out with Meyers or one of the few players left...lol can their be any "informal" coaching of signed players during the offseason?

 

[oldmangrouch]

Yeah trading for Vonleh was a PR stunt you are so right dude why didn't I think of that! God you are so money.

Thank you! It is so nice to be recognized.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Reminds me of another Blazers PF/C project who recently figured it all out. MM's favorite.

Reminds me of Thomas Robinson. Only not as exciting.

 

[Draco]

Last year we didn't have a pick and Noah was projected to go top-5 - Neil interviewed him in Vegas.

Like he did with Kristaps.

Ha I like that; let the Knicks panick after he sucks as a 19 year old and then trade him to us.

hopefully he can come to Por and work out with Meyers or one of the few players left...lol can their be any "informal" coaching of signed players during the offseason?

Yes I believe coaches can do basically any individual work its just when some number around 3 or more players are grouped together or the players go 5 on 5 the coaches have to walk away.

 

[Scalma]

Reminds me of Thomas Robinson. Only not as exciting.

Yeah totally like trob. Only with a jumper, more height, more length. But totally like trob otherwise.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Reminds me of another Blazers PF/C project who recently figured it all out. MM's favorite.

Good call. T-Rob really blossomed in Philly. 17/15 per 36 and a 19 PER!!!!! A defensive rating better than his team. That's a nice player. He can't shoot though, so he's dead to me

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

My favorite acquisition so far.

He's a huge 6'9" 250 -- and has awesome potential as a post defender, even at the five spot.

At 19, his base is absurdly built. His legs are Chuck Hayes-like, only Vonleh is pushing 6'10" in shoes:

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

My favorite acquisition so far.

He's a huge 6'9" 250 -- and has awesome potential as a post defender, even at the five spot.

At 19, his base is absurdly built. His legs are Chuck Hayes-like, only Vonleh is pushing 6'10" in shoes:

Has a Karl Malone type body.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

My favorite acquisition so far.

He's a huge 6'9" 250 -- and has awesome potential as a post defender, even at the five spot.

At 19, his base is absurdly built. His legs are Chuck Hayes-like, only Vonleh is pushing 6'10" in shoes:

The body is great. It would be better if he was a superathlete instead of a good athlete. The question I have and that I'm sure few of you can answer is this: does he have Desiiiiiire. Does he have that Damian Lillard/Thomas Robinson/Biebs work ethic and desire to be great? If so, we really have something. If not, he'll be a disappointment. He slid in the draft, many thought he would go 4th, so there's something there for sure.

 

[PCmor7]

Vonleh's upside is so much higher than TRob's. I don't know that Vonleh will ever reach his potential ... he probably won't ... but I think he actually was brought in as something of a low-cost heir apparent to LA. Really soft touch inside and out, but a more dynamic defender than LA.

 

[Duckhook]

My favorite acquisition so far.

He's a huge 6'9" 250 -- and has awesome potential as a post defender, even at the five spot.

At 19, his base is absurdly built. His legs are Chuck Hayes-like, only Vonleh is pushing 6'10" in shoes:

Good god... He could scratch his knees without bending down!!!

 

[Chaser]

You can add him to the core of Dame/CJ/Meyers if we have to rebuild. It just seems like he and Meyers are the same kind of player and play the same position

I read he has and can play SF.

 

[Blazinaway]

I read he has and can play SF.

if he can play SF effectively we could put some really fun and effective lineups out there in the years ahead. An almost 6'10" 245 lb SF with a 7'4" wingspan!

 

[Hobbesarable]

I read he has and can play SF.

According to 82games, He played at the 4 and 5 for the Hornets last season. I'm not sure which positions he played while attending Indiana.

http://www.82games.com/1415/14CHA13.HTM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

According to 82games, He played at the 4 and 5 for the Hornets last season. I'm not sure which positions he played while attending Indiana.

http://www.82games.com/1415/14CHA13.HTM

check it again, it basically says he didn't play center.

 

[Hobbesarable]

check it again, it basically says he didn't play center.

Yeah, it's like he spent a few seconds there. It's bascially a worthless sample at the 5.

 

[TBpup]

I don't think he has the quickness to play SF but maybe against certain matchups in a zone like Utah used to do with Paul Millsap when they would occasionally play him at SF and cause us havoc.

 

[retroblazers]

I like what I see in this vid of him from last season's summer league. I know it's only summer league, but it gives you a good sense of his skill set offensively.

 

[TBpup]

He's got a nice left hand, a good jumper, rolls HARD to the basket, finishes strong and has a better handle than most big men. He just needs playing time. Looks a big like a young Z-Bo in that you wouldn't run a lot of plays for him but he would be very active around the basket and can hit an open shot.

 

[jlprk]

Isn't Aminu a FA? He's one of NO's guys.

Rereading this thread, I noticed that 6 days before Olshey announced the Aminu trade, SanteeSioux thought of Aminu.

 

[TBpup]

Rereading this thread, I noticed that 6 days before Olshey announced the Aminu trade, SanteeSioux thought of Aminu.

Jason Quick had talked about him early on as well. Don't remember whether it was an article, tweet or in a radio interview. Freeman quite a while ago said they would go after Monroe.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Jason Quick had talked about him early on as well. Don't remember whether it was an article, tweet or in a radio interview. Freeman quite a while ago said they would go after Monroe.

Monroe has been an obvious target for us for a year or more... I remember really wanting him on our team last summer.