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I would wager most of the stuff coming out of progressive sites like Salon is also fake news as well.
 
I really think the Democratic convention exposed the Clintons and was the kiss of death to her campaign...the nail in the coffin was the deplorables rant but Bernie gained a lot of fans after the fact.
 
riverman said:
I really think the Democratic convention exposed the Clintons and was the kiss of death to her campaign...the nail in the coffin was the deplorables rant but Bernie gained a lot of fans after the fact.
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Yeah, the DNC email scandal, her email scandal, Bengazi...all of that plus her inability to humanize herself cost her the election....i guess an open lipped asshole is better than a robot in the eyes of the people
 
Even though I didn't voter her, I personally thought all of the stories that were made up about Trump were stupid and I let my facebook friends know it. There was enough ammo already.

The thing is, it's obvious that the fake news about her far out performed the fake news about him.
 
Chris Craig said:
Yeah, the DNC email scandal, her email scandal, Bengazi...all of that plus her inability to humanize herself cost her the election....i guess an open lipped asshole is better than a robot in the eyes of the people
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The right track/wrong track polling numbers show that by a huge majority, people are unhappy with things. Running on more of the same (Obama 3rd term) against "change" candidates in Sanders and then Trump was a losing value proposition.
 
Nikolokolus said:
It's all just fun and games until somebody gets shot ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/b...zza-shooting-fake-news-consequences.html?_r=0
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The fucked up thing is, that pizzagate stuff, if you read the totality of the information is pretty damning towards Podesta and his associates.

Sure one or two things, scream conspiracy theory, but when you start peeling the layers back and looking at the information trail... it's pretty weird and makes you think. I mean, what "family friendly" pizza place, puts pictures of people ejaculating on their walls playing ping pong. I mean I could go on and on about how fucked up these people are, but meh. Check out the thread on Voat if you're interested in reading about this in its entirety.

Also interesting that the Comet "gunman" was a Hollywood actorish type, along with Omar Mateen, funny enough, the (Pulse shooter). Had their IMDB's scrubbed of some things.
 
blue32 said:
The fucked up thing is, that pizzagate stuff, if you read the totality of the information is pretty damning towards Podesta and his associates.

Sure one or two things, scream conspiracy theory, but when you start peeling the layers back and looking at the information trail... it's pretty weird and makes you think. I mean, what "family friendly" pizza place, puts pictures of people ejaculating on their walls playing ping pong. I mean I could go on and on about how fucked up these people are, but meh. Check out the thread on Voat if you're interested in reading about this in its entirety.

Also interesting that the Comet "gunman" was a Hollywood actorish type, along with Omar Mateen, funny enough, the (Pulse shooter). Both had their IMDB's scrubbed of some things.
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Trouble is it's all tainted with provably false, manufactured evidence and I don't need to read a bunch of axe-to-grind conspiracy sites to have a fairly good idea that this story is cooked.

Vague assertions for such a vast conspiracy don't cut it: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Trouble is it's all tainted with provably false, manufactured evidence and I don't need to read a bunch of axe-to-grind conspiracy sites to have a fairly good idea that this story is cooked.

Vague assertions for such a vast conspiracy don't cut it: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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I will say; the fact that political elite are associated with a known pedophile (traveling to his private 'sex' island) make me a little suspicious. And how the information all connects to these DC elites is suspect. But yes it does require extra scrutiny on the claims and evidence.
 
blue32 said:
The fucked up thing is, that pizzagate stuff, if you read the totality of the information is pretty damning towards Podesta and his associates.

Sure one or two things, scream conspiracy theory, but when you start peeling the layers back and looking at the information trail... it's pretty weird and makes you think. I mean, what "family friendly" pizza place, puts pictures of people ejaculating on their walls playing ping pong. I mean I could go on and on about how fucked up these people are, but meh. Check out the thread on Voat if you're interested in reading about this in its entirety.

Also interesting that the Comet "gunman" was a Hollywood actorish type, along with Omar Mateen, funny enough, the (Pulse shooter). Had their IMDB's scrubbed of some things.
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You sound crazy
 
Sedatedfork said:
You sound crazy
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OK Thanks for sharing, but before you start calling someone names or whatever, perhaps you can go enlighten yourself with the PizzaGate story and information on Voat.

Do you want me to start posting some of those pictures on Alefantis' instagram account? They are disturbing; specially when people start using code words in relation to the kid pictures.
Do you want to see the pictures that they have on the wall in their "family friendly" pizzeria? You know, a dude playing ping pong while ejaculating along with other weird satanic-ish type artwork?
Shall I post you the links that DC elites (Including Bill and Hillary) have with known pedophile, J. Epstein, including visiting this dudes "island" which is known for "sex parties"?

Have you read any of the Podesta emails? They ARE speaking in code. Nobody I know ever talks that way. Many, Many people, even people who don't even believe in this pizzagate thing agree he's speaking in code.


About the actors.. Both Mateen, and this Commet Gunman were "actors" in the sense they were in movies/short films. Look up Mateen "the big fix" it was scrubbed from his IMDB.

I am not saying this is true at all, but what I am saying is there is a lot of smoke and it's fucking weird.
 
blue32 said:
OK Thanks for sharing, but before you start calling someone names or whatever, perhaps you can go enlighten yourself with the PizzaGate story and information on Voat.

Do you want me to start posting some of those pictures on Alefantis' instagram account? They are disturbing; specially when people start using code words in relation to the kid pictures.
Do you want to see the pictures that they have on the wall in their "family friendly" pizzeria? You know, a dude playing ping pong while ejaculating along with other weird satanic-ish type artwork?
Shall I post you the links that DC elites (Including Bill and Hillary) have with known pedophile, J. Epstein, including visiting this dudes "island" which is known for "sex parties"?

Have you read any of the Podesta emails? They ARE speaking in code. Nobody I know ever talks that way. Many, Many people, even people who don't even believe in this pizzagate thing agree he's speaking in code.


About the actors.. Both Mateen, and this Commet Gunman were "actors" in the sense they were in movies/short films. Look up Mateen "the big fix" it was scrubbed from his IMDB.

I am not saying this is true at all, but what I am saying is there is a lot of smoke and it's fucking weird.
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Sensitive much? I thought you don't give a fuck what people think about what you say. Your post and this one make you sound crazy. There is weird shit on the internet. Maybe you shouldn't be so gullible
 
blue32 said:
OK Thanks for sharing, but before you start calling someone names or whatever, perhaps you can go enlighten yourself with the PizzaGate story and information on Voat.

Do you want me to start posting some of those pictures on Alefantis' instagram account? They are disturbing; specially when people start using code words in relation to the kid pictures.
Do you want to see the pictures that they have on the wall in their "family friendly" pizzeria? You know, a dude playing ping pong while ejaculating along with other weird satanic-ish type artwork?
Shall I post you the links that DC elites (Including Bill and Hillary) have with known pedophile, J. Epstein, including visiting this dudes "island" which is known for "sex parties"?

Have you read any of the Podesta emails? They ARE speaking in code. Nobody I know ever talks that way. Many, Many people, even people who don't even believe in this pizzagate thing agree he's speaking in code.


About the actors.. Both Mateen, and this Commet Gunman were "actors" in the sense they were in movies/short films. Look up Mateen "the big fix" it was scrubbed from his IMDB.

I am not saying this is true at all, but what I am saying is there is a lot of smoke and it's fucking weird.
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1. Voat is just a forum. Not really a news source.

2. Pictures in code?

3. Emails in code?

4. Lets not forget that Trump is friends with Epstein and has been to the island.

The first time you brought this up your links said that the picture of two ping pong paddles on a pizza menu was a pedophile symbol because they were symmetrical.
 
There are secret satanic codes hidden in the bible. Pedophilia is evil. Combine these two facts and the bible is really tool for pedophiles.
 
blue32 said:
I will say; the fact that political elite are associated with a known pedophile (traveling to his private 'sex' island) make me a little suspicious.
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you want a good pedo rape conspiracy theory? how about one involving a our president elect, donald j trump! *dramatic music crescendo* *fade to white*

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

Epstein likes to tell people that he's a loner, a man who's never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
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wow, he seems to really know a lot about him. interesting...

https://news.vice.com/article/the-s...-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton

In 2010, Epstein pled the Fifth when asked by a lawyer representing one of Epstein's victims about his relationship with Trump:

Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
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i believe he also plead the 5th when asked about bill clinton. interesting...

Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet.
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so he flew on "the lolita express".

interesting...

Among people listed in the phone book were well-known political figures such as Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia, Tony Blair, former Utah governor and Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, Senator Edward Kennedy, and Henry Kissinger. Also listed were major political contributors like David Koch and Pepe Fanjul.

Epstein created a number of other odd categories, including one called "Jeffrey."

Trump was listed in this section. Under his name were 14 phone numbers, including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump's security guard and houseman.
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its almost like they knew each other very well! why would he have so many phone numbers for him? maybe in case he had to contact him at a moments notice? why would he need to do that? maybe to warn him about being caught? jeez, who knows! maybe ill go shoot up a pizza place! :lol:
 
Sedatedfork said:
Sensitive much? I thought you don't give a fuck what people think about what you say. Your post and this one make you sound crazy. There is weird shit on the internet. Maybe you shouldn't be so gullible
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I don't give a fuck what you think. I am replying to your claims that you think I'm "crazy".

SlyPokerDog said:
1. Voat is just a forum. Not really a news source.

2. Pictures in code?

3. Emails in code?

4. Lets not forget that Trump is friends with Epstein and has been to the island.

The first time you brought this up your links said that the picture of two ping pong paddles on a pizza menu was a pedophile symbol because they were symmetrical.
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You both can patronize all you want. I don't give a fuck. But do yourselves a favor and read through the main thread on voat about it.

And Sly, I personally didn't say shit about symbols and whatever. I posted the thread in attempt to share with you what Reddit people were discovering. Just because I posted a link to Reddit, doesn't mean I believe in what they were saying. I said, it was interesting, weird, and fucked up.

I still believe, it's weird, and fucked up, and I hope to god it's not real, but unlike you two dudes, I am more open minded to the fact that there could be shit like this going on, as unfortunate as it is. Specially when you start looking at historical documentaries, on Youtube, about the subject. Yes, people actually do this shit. Whether or not its DC elites, is to be determined.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
you want a good pedo rape conspiracy theory? how about one involving a our president elect, donald j trump! *dramatic music crescendo* *fade to white*

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/



wow, he seems to really know a lot about him



i believe he also plead the 5th when asked about bill clinton. interesting.



so he flew on "the lolita express" at least once.



its almost like they knew each other very well! why would he have so many phone numbers for him? maybe in case he had to contact him at a moments notice? why would he need to do that? maybe to warn him about being caught? jeez, who knows! maybe ill go shoot up a pizza place! :lol:
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And? I am not taking sides here?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
and trump, your boy, is quite possibly a pedophile rapist.

duh.
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My boy? Troll harder mang!
Just because I want the man to succeed as our President doesn't make him "my boy".
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Wait, I thought you voted for him? If not, my bad.
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I did. But that doesn't make him "my boy". You're confusing/conflating things here.

I support the conservative republican ticket & viewpoints. Because I voted for the man doesn't make him infallible in my eyes.
 
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