Now Jaynes has jumped on the Zig Ziegler bandwagon!

[SlyPokerDog]

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingd...s-he-warned-Blaz=1&blockID=686814&feedID=8351

Ziegler wrote that he was brought in by former assistant general manager Tom Penn to do "biomechanical" assessments of Trail Blazer players and found warning signs of future injuries to Oden, Roy and Joel Przybilla -- but the team may have ignored his warnings and, in fact, laughed at them. Penn, reached Tuesday night, said, "My reaction to that is call the Blazers."

A spokesman for the Trail Blazers said team president Larry Miller was "not going to comment" on the report.

Ziegler, reached Tuesday night by phone, said, "My track record and the athletes I work with speak for themselves. I indicated to (the Blazers) that this was a fitness exam, not a medical exam. I told them 'You trainer and strength and conditioning coach were going to have to fix (the players).

"I'm not saying the Blazers did nothing. But I would bet anything that if we did follow-up testing either the athlete, the coach or trainer would be exposed. The data doesn't lie.

"At some point, microfracture surgery doesn't work. You need to treat the reasons for needing the surgery."

Ziegler's website says he's worked with major-league baseball players Johan Santana, Jason Bay and Ryan Howard, along with basketball player Shaqulle O'Neal and NFL players Anquan Boldin, Seth Joyner and former Oregon players Derek Loville and Chris Oldham.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You know, I do wonder if treating Oden with multiple microfracture surgeries wasn't a bit like troubleshooting your computer by restarting the PC every time something went wrong.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

After reading the whole thing, it's really depressing. This guy may be overstating what he is able to do as far as preventing a player from being injured but he was clearly spot-on with his predictions of risk and it's amazing that the Portland medical staff was not open to listening. Also amazing that Pritchard and Penn seemed to ignore the advice of the guy they brought in.

 

[Sinobas]

This guy says Roy could come back with proper treatment, but he has no meniscus left in either knee. So that makes me wonder if he really knows what he's talking about. Joel landed right on his knee...so his injury was not obviously due to imbalances. And Greg sustained most of his injuries while not even playing...so I find it hard to believe that things would be much better if they had "only listened to Zig". This guy could just be after publicity for himself.

 

[PapaG]

Who is Zig Ziegler?

His blog has about 6 posts in the past year. Is that a take off from Zig Ziglar, that motivational speaker? There are no recent Google hits for a Zig Ziegler who works in sports medicine, other than bragging about Greg Oden.

Seems like a hoax to me.

 

[TripTango]

"Ziegler" is actually MIXUM, trolling Blazer fans one more time. I have evidence somewhere on my blog.

 

[MARIS61]

[video=youtube;I_3vzdZ6JdA]

 

[jlprk]

Who is Zig Ziegler?

At the end of this thread, I tried to answer that.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/211853-Time-to-fire-entire-training-staff?p=2776318#post2776318

 

[barfo]

You know, I do wonder if treating Oden with multiple microfracture surgeries wasn't a bit like troubleshooting your computer by restarting the PC every time something went wrong.

That's the problem. Oden was a Microsoft product.

Even if that picture did suggest Macrosoft.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

Quite a read on Ziegler in a new Blazers Edge article:

http://www.blazersedge.com/

 

[PapaG]

Quite a read on Ziegler in a new Blazers Edge article:

http://www.blazersedge.com/

Thanks for that link. Looks like the guy is sketchy as hell. I'm not going to believe a word he says, other than he might have been contacted by Tom Penn.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Why does it look like he is sketchy as hell?

 

[jlprk]

3 times, his partners have sold investments in his company without registering with the state (to follow certain practices in accounting and disclosure). But as he says, this doesn't mean that his technology (computerized motion sensors attached to the body, and plotting the movements) is bad.

 

[Mediocre Man]

3 times, his partners have sold investments in his company without registering with the state (to follow certain practices in accounting and disclosure). But as he says, this doesn't mean that his technology (computerized motion sensors attached to the body, and plotting the movements) is bad.

Clinton burst his wad all over an intern, but I'd sure as hell rather have him in office than Obama right now.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

S2 had this well before Jaynes.

Rep points for Fez.

 

[Nikolokolus]

It sounds like you'd be an idiot to take financial advice from this Ziegler character, but I'm not sure what his potentially shady or sloppy dealings with the financial side of his company has to do with his ability to evaluate biomechanics. The proof is in the pudding as they say and after 3 pretty major lower extremity issues with Oden, Roy and now Aldridge ... well maybe there's something here?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Zig is going to be on Canzano's show today.

 

[jlprk]

Clinton burst his wad all over an intern, but I'd sure as hell rather have him in office than Obama right now.

Cig, Zig?

Light, Dwight?

 

[MickZagger]

Cig, Zig?

Light, Dwight?

SlyPokerDog is so full of crap, his eyes are brown!

 

[jlprk]

Sly is jealous of my beautiful brown eyes so he tried to steal the limelight for himself.

 

[MickZagger]

SlyPokerDog is so full of crap, his eyes are brown!

Was that really worthy of an edit?

Someone a little bored?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Was that really worthy of an edit?

Someone a little bored?

LOL! Personal insults are not allowed.

 

[jlprk]

I hereby give permission for MickZagger to insult me all he wants.

 

[jlprk]

I'm still after PapaG, though, for FOUR MONTHS of looking at that signature everytime I read his posts.

But Mick or El Presidente don't bother me. You guys are cool with me.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I hereby give permission for MickZagger to insult me all he wants.

If you guys want to trade insults you can take it to PM or insult me instead but there aren't a hell of a lot of rules here on S2 so I'm going to enforce the few that we have.

 

[RoyToy]

You're a SlyPokerDog, SlyPokerDog.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You're a SlyPokerDog, SlyPokerDog.

Rep'd!

 

[jlprk]

If you guys want to trade insults you can take it to PM or insult me instead but there aren't a hell of a lot of rules here on S2 so I'm going to enforce the few that we have.

What? I didn't insult anyone. Link? Also, no one insulted me. This is an insult. I demand an apology for your insinuation that I feel insulted.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Think about this for a second or two:

Chris Haynes Twitter:

LaMarcus Aldridge ask for 2nd opinion on hip & finds problem after local doctors found nothing | http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingb...pinion-and-found=1&blockID=688040&feedID=5212 | #Blazers #Ripcity

Reminder: Nicolas Batum's left knee has been bothering for the last two months.

Smoke and fire and all of that stuff ...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

What? I didn't insult anyone. Link? Also, no one insulted me. This is an insult. I demand an apology for your insinuation that I feel insulted.

Never!