Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade?

[BlazerBenner]

Pritchard is the guy who made everything happen.

Every other person involved in the Blazers will be too chicken (like most GM's) to do anything. Everyone will be too afraid they will make a mistake and be fired.

As a result, the Marcus Camby trade will end up being the last good trade this club makes for the next 3 seasons.

There WILL NOT be a better trade over the next three years better than the Camby trade.

It's a waste of time to even read about "trade rumors" or Free Agent signings because nothing will happen.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I think there will be more trades, and still decent drafting. And I'd be shocked if we didn't see something most of us would call a "consolidation" within the next two months

 

[RamblinRod]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

So because KP was mediocre at making trades, his replacement will be worse. Great logic.

 

[BlazerBenner]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Of course, it's not like there's anything left to do in order to put a Championship team together. At least not in the next 3 seasons.

Players just need to play, such as Oden, Batum, Bayless and Camby. If those 4 players are healthy, along with Roy, Miller (who doesn't miss games) and Aldridge, there's no reason to believe they can't win 54 games each of the next two seasons. Winning a playoff series is another matter. I'm not sure if Nate can take them there.

 

[BlazerBenner]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

So because KP was mediocre at making trades, his replacement will be worse. Great logic.

Wow. Try a little common sense before typing. Marcus Camby was a trading coup. We got ourselves a great Center who's willing to play alongside of Oden. It was "The Perfect Trade" for the Blazers.

Also, when you're so damn smart that you can trade for a draft spot in order to take the "Great Batum", you don't have to make trades except to fix a few small holes.

He got rid of two of the worst players on the team in Blake (who sucked big-time as a point guard) and Outlaw (who sucked big-time defensively, and was always lost on Offense). Just to get someone to take Blake and Outlaw was pure genius. To get in return a great Center was a coup.

 

[Idog1976]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I think there will be more trades, and still decent drafting. And I'd be shocked if we didn't see something most of us would call a "consolidation" within the next two months

Collison, the last best hope for the off-season IMO. No big time FA will come here except maybe Steve Nash. Even if we got Nash we should shoot for Collison as understudy.

 

[BlazerBenner]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I think there will be more trades, and still decent drafting. And I'd be shocked if we didn't see something most of us would call a "consolidation" within the next two months

Let us hope you're right.

But, again, to be fair to the new regime, I can't think of anything this team needs right now. I can't see a reason to make a trade. It's hard to find players that mix well with Roy.

 

[hasoos]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Any person who thinks that a whole organization depends on one guy is quite mistaken. I have met several people in my life that thought they were more important than the business they were working for. They were all sadly mistaken when given their walking papers.

 

[Masbee]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Pritchard is the guy who made everything happen.

Every other person involved in the Blazers will be too chicken (like most GM's) to do anything. Everyone will be too afraid they will make a mistake and be fired.

As a result, the Marcus Camby trade will end up being the last good trade this club makes for the next 3 seasons.

There WILL NOT be a better trade over the next three years better than the Camby trade.

It's a waste of time to even read about "trade rumors" or Free Agent signings because nothing will happen.

I don't think anyone can talk you off that ledge.

Just jump. Get it over with.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

This is a funny thread. When did Mixum change is moniker?

Seriously, KP wasn't all that. He just got all the credit (due or undue). He was an active trader on draft day most years and the Camby trade was a good one for us. Others not so much. For all the trading he did we only got Batum out of it. Most of our roster is currently overrated IMO.

For us to make it past the first round and challenge for a championship - we need someone to make some deals and get them done. We aren't there yet.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

well...how tied to Roy are Miller and PA?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

When was the last "real" trade that KP made in the offseason?

 

[LittleAlex]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Honestly I never thought there would be a real big trade this off season with or without KP on board.

Nothing has happened to change my mind.

After hearing all about RLEC, talk about Miller and Joel's expiring contracts being valuable rings pretty hollow.

If something happens, then awesome.

I just don't think Portland has the pieces to make a trade of any real consequence.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

So let me get this straight, KP gone means trades become less likely? Fuck, that would tough to accomplish.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

So let me get this straight, KP gone means trades become less likely? Fuck, that would tough to accomplish.

Honestly, I'm not sure the Blazers even had a GM the last 4 years.

And with enough floated narratives, I'm sure the history will eventually reflect that. Pritchard's very existence shall be written right out of the books. Even his parents will forget that he existed. In fact, they'll remember Steve Patterson as their child.

 

[OddEnormous]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

When was the last "real" trade that KP made in the offseason?

So now the "real" trade must fall with in the offseason? Why?

The in season and draft day trades aren't real deals?

 

[Ed O]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I doubt there will be another trade. Hope so, but doubt it. It's not because of KP's absence, though...

There's a chance we could use our MLE, of course. That wouldn't suck.

Ed O.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

So now the "real" trade must fall with in the offseason? Why?

The in season and draft day trades aren't real deals?

Cause it's the off season now. The Blazers are supposedly trying to be active, so I assumed the OP meant now. But if it makes you feel better, besides Camby, when was the last real trade KP made at all?

 

[STOMP]

Following the plague of injuries last year it's been my best guess that they will more or less let the roster stand pat to see what they already have. I happen to think they're pretty deep talented and balanced. With KP having been shown the door I think this is even more likely as the new GM will want to evaluate whats what before turning things over. If they're to make a deal this year I suspect it will be at the mid-season trade deadline involving Joel who should be rounding into shape about then.

Here's to Brandon Greg Nic & Rudy healing up and being 100% to start the season

STOMP

 

[OddEnormous]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Cause it's the off season now.

Fucking brilliant.

:shakeshead:

To answer the 2nd part of your question, I'm from the camp of the trades you don't make are just as important (if not more so) that the ones you do. I don't demand the team I support make a trade between the months of July and October because I'm bored.

I don't give a fuck when they happen as long as we come out the better.

Limiting it to certain months is absurd.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

You mean, like KP saying that he didn't make trades between training camp and the draft b/c of chemistry? Was that absurd, too?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I wonder if we're still in the cake baking stage?

 

[BGrantFan]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

You mean, like KP saying that he didn't make trades between training camp and the draft b/c of chemistry? Was that absurd, too?

Marcus Camby?

 

[BGrantFan]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I wonder if we're still in the cake baking stage?

We're a key injury away from entering the gruel cooking stage.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Marcus Camby?

I know he made the Camby trade...and I applaud him for it. But he said multiple times before that things like the following (paraphrased by Maxey):

The NBA Draft and the offseason: those are the two times of year when Pritchard does his best work. Look at the way the Blazers have been built – via the draft and during offseason transactions. Aside from trading Taurean Green to Denver for Von Wafer at last year's trade deadline, Pritchard isn't partial to making in-season trades. For Pritchard, it boils down to putting his coach and team in a position where they can be successful. And by bringing in a player for the second half of the season, expecting him to effectively contribute while getting acclimated to a new system, isn't setting a coach or his players up for success. Obviously, it can be done and is done around the league. Portland – and least according to Pritchard's stance – isn't one of those clubs.

or this one, jan 2008

Never say never, but it appears the Blazers won’t make any trades this season.

“If we’re offered an all-star tomorrow, who knows?” Pritchard says. “But I don’t see anything on the horizon. We have good young talent, good chemistry, and we’re playing well. Why mess with it?

“A lot of people would like for us to trade for a bruiser or rebounder. We have one (in Oden). Unfortunately, he’s not playing this year.”

 

[BGrantFan]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

I know he made the Camby trade...and I applaud him for it. But he said multiple times before that things like the following (paraphrased by Maxey):

I didn't like any of the rumored trades during Raef's expiring contract year. Paul Allen save over $10 million. Perhaps Pritchard had a trade, and the Vulcans vetoed it for financial reason?

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Fair enough. And I've always accepted that not taking on a "bad" contract's a legit reason for not making a move. But KP said multiple times that he doesn't like to make in-season trades, for reasons that I also can understand, if not wholly agree with. I was just responding to OddE's philosophy that it's "absurd" to limit trades based on the calendar, when KP espoused that view for at least 2 of his 3 years here.

 

[BGrantFan]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

Fair enough. And I've always accepted that not taking on a "bad" contract's a legit reason for not making a move. But KP said multiple times that he doesn't like to make in-season trades, for reasons that I also can understand, if not wholly agree with. I was just responding to OddE's philosophy that it's "absurd" to limit trades based on the calendar, when KP espoused that view for at least 2 of his 3 years here.

I'm willing to move on from KP at this point. It's over. What worries me is that the Blazers just seem to be winging it right now. Who will fill the leadership vacuum? Who is actually running the basketball side right now? And why has Nate been so silent, outside of one appearance at the press conference after the draft?

Way too many questions with 2 days until the summer bonanza.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

While it's not a great situation, I'm actually not worried so much about the tactical side. I've been in situations similar to what Born and Buchanan are in (being a subordinate that did a lot of work for a superior who's now gone) and I would bet that the homework's done and they're thinking well on their feet. Strategically, however, the cachet isn't gonna be there...no matter how smart you are or how much homework you've done I don't think that you can woo a FA with no GM and the top scouts making your pitches---especially when Riley, Thorn, Reinsdorf, Walsh etc. are on Line Two.

Honestly, I think Nate's trying to keep a low profile. He likes his 6M a year job.

 

[BGrantFan]

Re: Now that Pritchard's gone does anyone honestly think there will be a "real" trade

While it's not a great situation, I'm actually not worried so much about the tactical side. I've been in situations similar to what Born and Buchanan are in (being a subordinate that did a lot of work for a superior who's now gone) and I would bet that the homework's done and they're thinking well on their feet. Strategically, however, the cachet isn't gonna be there...no matter how smart you are or how much homework you've done I don't think that you can woo a FA with no GM and the top scouts making your pitches---especially when Riley, Thorn, Reinsdorf, Walsh etc. are on Line Two.

Honestly, I think Nate's trying to keep a low profile. He likes his 6M a year job.

Good point. I'll point out that Thorn is no longer employed by New Jersey, though.

Also, isn't this Nate's last year (2010-11). Even if he's fired, he keeps his dough unless he goes all mavericky on the organization.