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Try playing with a bum knee and a sore back. Then add to the fact that you've been playing 40+ minutes the whole series running after Rip Hamilton.

Oh and don't get started with KMart. The whole Pistons frontline was focused on him. He's the only post player that the Nets have. Plus when you've been battling two Wallaces during the whole series, a double-double in game 7 is way more than decent.
 
^^Playing with a bum knee and a sore back, eh? Well, don't look now, but Sam Cassel has to be treated with electrodes on his back duriing time-outs and other breaks and he had himself a decent Game 7 for the Wolves, now didn't he?

Ah throwback, looking at your post, it is hard not to laugh at the fact that you call someone else immature.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">he was injured this whole year and detroit IS a good team. don't sell them short. and it doesnt help that out of your whole roster that 1 guy has been in a game 7. </div> He scored zero points and basically cost this Nets team the ballgame, what do you want me to say?

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">palace isn't the easiest place to win, especially when it is the franchises, FRANCHISES, first game 7, not just kidd's.</div>How bout those Wolves eh; first game 7 in franchise history and guess what? They won, led by a brilliant performance by their franchise player. That, my friend, is the way superstars should step up. Scoring zero points is just not going to cut it for me...


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">if you hate kidd at least give a reasonable reason to hate him. not just b/c of the obvious. </div> Are you now saying that I should not hate on Kidd bc it is obvious that there is a reason to hate on him? I'm confused.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">everything has been said to prove you wrong, you know your wrong- u just hate kidd.</div>I have stated that Ason Kidd is overrated and look what he did in the first game 7 of his life. I am not here to start a fight with Nets fans. I just wanted to come by and let you guys know that my previous comments about Kidd were not as unjustified as you guys deemed them.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Zee:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Playing with a bum knee and a sore back, eh? Well, don't look now, but Sam Cassel has to be treated with electrodes on his back duriing time-outs and other breaks and he had himself a decent Game 7 for the Wolves, now didn't he?</div>

Believe me, it would be a great difference if you're playing with the MVP. Besides, Kidd's injury's been bugging him almost all season. Add to the fact the minutes that he's playing this series.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Zee:</div><div class="quote_post">Ah throwback, looking at your post, it is hard not to laugh at the fact that you call someone else immature.

He scored zero points and basically cost this Nets team the ballgame, what do you want me to say?</div>

This my friend shows how hateful you are of Kidd. You're pinpointing him as the sole reason of the loss. To state a few reasons aside from Kidd's performance:

1. Martin was clearly outplayed by the two Wallaces.
2. Our bench was terrible.
3. Our big men aside from Martin was terrible.

To quote Frank, "As a team, it just wasn't our night."

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Zee:</div><div class="quote_post">How bout those Wolves eh; first game 7 in franchise history and guess what? They won, led by a brilliant performance by their franchise player. That, my friend, is the way superstars should step up. Scoring zero points is just not going to cut it for me...</div>

Their franchise player with the help of Sam and Spree of course. Plus a very very deep bench.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Zee:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you now saying that I should not hate on Kidd bc it is obvious that there is a reason to hate on him? I'm confused.

I have stated that Ason Kidd is overrated and look what he did in the first game 7 of his life. I am not here to start a fight with Nets fans. I just wanted to come by and let you guys know that my previous comments about Kidd were not as unjustified as you guys deemed them.</div>

So we're going to throw out the window what he did for the franchise? A bad game 7 and suddenly you forgot what he did the past three years? Franchise players are built and destroyed through the years. It will take more than a game 7 to build or destroy a franchise player.

It seems that you're the only person who's saying those arguments. Everybody was surprised with his performance. Everybody has the greatest respect for him. Let me quote some of it.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">'Our guards set the tone, not necessarily on offense, but on defense," said Rasheed Wallace, who finished with 12 points and seven rebounds yesterday. "To hold J. Kidd to zero points, in my opinion, that's next to impossible. We're dealing with one of the better point guards in the league right now."</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">'You can't look at his stat sheet and say, 'Well he didn't score, so he wasn't productive,"' Hunter said. "This guy can be productive not scoring at all."</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"I thought New Jersey was going to come out with a lot more energy and play a lot harder," Pistons center Ben Wallace said. "If you would've told me that we were going blow this team out, coming into a Game 7, I would've told you you're crazy."</div>

I have more to say but I have to go. Please do post again and I'll counter them when I get back in.
 
nicely put trust. i am not going to reply to mr.zee's post because there is really no reason for this topic to have anymore posts in it. there are haters for every player, every team out there. this is just one hater expressing his opinion and no matter what information other people reply about his thoughts he won't change because he doesn't like jason. so lets just move on. this was my last post in this topic, unless i get provoked
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How you can simply ignore the fact that Ason Kidd, the franchise, sucked so badly? I did see the game and Ason was just terrible: Lyndsey Hunter and the other Pistons are obviously going to say what they said out of politeness, but Ason really did suck, and if that hurts and you cannot face it, that is understandable, but it does not mean I cannot state my opinion. You say that KG had more help in Spree & Sam, well what about K-Mart & RJ? Are they not an All Star and an Olympian, respectively? Please. If you're going to say that I'm biased -- which I am -- please do not ignore the fact that you guys are too. I have posted so many facts in here and not one of them has been corroborated. That says it all.

But yes, I will stop posting in here as well. I will no longer provoke you guys.
 
As I've said, it takes more than one game to make or destroy a franchise player. A great game 7 won't make that player suddenly a franchise player. And a bad game 7 won't destroy a franchise player. It's built through the years. So when you take a look at the career of "Ason" Kidd as you put it, all you can see is success.

Regarding KG, there's no question that KG is better than Kidd this season. It's true that Kidd has Kmart, RJ and...and...and...basically no one else while KG still has bench players that are pretty much capable of starting.

I don't know why I'm even replying. It was nice talking to you.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know why I'm even replying. It was nice talking to you.</div>I appreciate your replies and I apologize if I offended you.
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