NOW'S THE TIME
- Thread starter Dumpy
- Start date
Welcome to our community
Be a part of something great, join today!
SportsTicker
News Feed
- Joined
- Jul 17, 2003
- Messages
- 6,105
- Likes
- 9
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With Shaq in the west, now's the time to deal Magloire to New Orleans for Rasual Butler. Come on, surely SOMEONE in the Nets' front office reads this board.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
GMJ
Suspended
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2007
- Messages
- 12,067
- Likes
- 30
- Points
- 0
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 6 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With Shaq in the west, now's the time to deal Magloire to New Orleans for Rasual Butler. Come on, surely SOMEONE in the Nets' front office reads this board.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
Reddick would be a really good pick up for us, especially since the Magic have said they're not going to give him minutes. Unfortunately, they've also said they won't trade him either.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
Reddick would be a really good pick up for us, especially since the Magic have said they're not going to give him minutes. Unfortunately, they've also said they won't trade him either.
GMJ
Suspended
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2007
- Messages
- 12,067
- Likes
- 30
- Points
- 0
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 6 2008, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>IMO Redick sucks. He was wickedly overrated, just like Morrison. On the other hand, players such as Salim Stoudemire were really underrated. Sheesh.</div>
Racist! haha jk
Racist! haha jk
Universe
Hall of Fame
- Joined
- Mar 5, 2005
- Messages
- 3,736
- Likes
- 3
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 6 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With Shaq in the west, now's the time to deal Magloire to New Orleans for Rasual Butler. Come on, surely SOMEONE in the Nets' front office reads this board.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
I like this deal too but it doesn't work salary wise or at least not on RealGM.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
I like this deal too but it doesn't work salary wise or at least not on RealGM.
pegs
My future wife.
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2007
- Messages
- 12,079
- Likes
- 12
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 6 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 6 2008, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>IMO Redick sucks. He was wickedly overrated, just like Morrison. On the other hand, players such as Salim Stoudemire were really underrated. Sheesh.</div>
Racist! haha jk
</div>
Whitey's are the devil. Always tryin' ta keep the black man down!
Racist! haha jk
</div>
Whitey's are the devil. Always tryin' ta keep the black man down!
Dumpy
Yi-ha!!
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2007
- Messages
- 4,231
- Likes
- 24
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 6 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With Shaq in the west, now's the time to deal Magloire to New Orleans for Rasual Butler. Come on, surely SOMEONE in the Nets' front office reads this board.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.
ly_yng
Active Member
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2007
- Messages
- 1,156
- Likes
- 4
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 7 2008, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 6 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With Shaq in the west, now's the time to deal Magloire to New Orleans for Rasual Butler. Come on, surely SOMEONE in the Nets' front office reads this board.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.
</div>
It's a lateral move. The team gets marginally better and locks itself into a bad contract. This is the first summer where Thorn might not actually waste cap space on a mediocre, over-the-hill, go-nowhere player because of our transition to rebuilding mode. Not saying he'll do any better in that game, but Kiki might...
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.
</div>
It's a lateral move. The team gets marginally better and locks itself into a bad contract. This is the first summer where Thorn might not actually waste cap space on a mediocre, over-the-hill, go-nowhere player because of our transition to rebuilding mode. Not saying he'll do any better in that game, but Kiki might...
Dumpy
Yi-ha!!
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2007
- Messages
- 4,231
- Likes
- 24
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Feb 7 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 7 2008, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 6 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With Shaq in the west, now's the time to deal Magloire to New Orleans for Rasual Butler. Come on, surely SOMEONE in the Nets' front office reads this board.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.
</div>
It's a lateral move. The team gets marginally better and locks itself into a bad contract. This is the first summer where Thorn might not actually waste cap space on a mediocre, over-the-hill, go-nowhere player because of our transition to rebuilding mode. Not saying he'll do any better in that game, but Kiki might...
</div>
Lateral move? Yeah, sure. I guess the first decision is whether you want to try to reach the playoffs and maximize your chances to get out of the first round. If that's the case, then I think it's a good trade for the Nets. [admittedly, I first thought of this potential "match" when the Nets had a record around .500 and were within shouting distance of the 4 seed]. As contracts go, also, it is not "terrible." It's probably around what they'd have to pay Boki if they wanted to keep him. If you want to just go through the motions, try to trade Kidd and/or Carter your young, unproven players and draft picks? Yeah, then it isn't worth it.
I'm not backing off Bobby Jones.
[and sign Bobby Jones while you're at it]</div>
Butler has a three year deal...$3.3 million this year, plus $3.6 million and $3.9 million. He has played much worse than Boki. He aint worth it.
With Battie out, trade Magloire to the Magic for Reddick, Augustine and Gortat, then dump Augustine, keep Gortat.
</div>
This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.
</div>
It's a lateral move. The team gets marginally better and locks itself into a bad contract. This is the first summer where Thorn might not actually waste cap space on a mediocre, over-the-hill, go-nowhere player because of our transition to rebuilding mode. Not saying he'll do any better in that game, but Kiki might...
</div>
Lateral move? Yeah, sure. I guess the first decision is whether you want to try to reach the playoffs and maximize your chances to get out of the first round. If that's the case, then I think it's a good trade for the Nets. [admittedly, I first thought of this potential "match" when the Nets had a record around .500 and were within shouting distance of the 4 seed]. As contracts go, also, it is not "terrible." It's probably around what they'd have to pay Boki if they wanted to keep him. If you want to just go through the motions, try to trade Kidd and/or Carter your young, unproven players and draft picks? Yeah, then it isn't worth it.
I'm not backing off Bobby Jones.
J-HoAgZ
Jay-Z + LBJ = NBA TAKEOVER
- Joined
- Oct 3, 2007
- Messages
- 435
- Likes
- 0
- Points
- 16
Forget Bobby Jones I'm still astonished at the fact that Jared Jordan is still not in the NBA. He led the NCAA in assists two years straight and the Knicks drafted him but cut him b/c they don't like team players. He is basically the second comming of Jason Kidd. PICK UP JARED JORDAN and put him under Kidd's wing. He's an absolute monster I can't believe this kid is getting overlooked. And it's not even like I'm a Marist fans or I have any connection to him he's just simply a beast and should be picked up especially since we can grab him for like 500K.
footswalker
Member
- Joined
- Nov 12, 2007
- Messages
- 411
- Likes
- 0
- Points
- 16
Too bad Rod traded away Kyle Korver for nothing but cash considerations. That was a good one.
cpawfan
Monsters do exist
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2007
- Messages
- 8,703
- Likes
- 12
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 7 2008, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Forget Bobby Jones I'm still astonished at the fact that Jared Jordan is still not in the NBA. He led the NCAA in assists two years straight and the Knicks drafted him but cut him b/c they don't like team players. He is basically the second comming of Jason Kidd. PICK UP JARED JORDAN and put him under Kidd's wing. He's an absolute monster I can't believe this kid is getting overlooked. And it's not even like I'm a Marist fans or I have any connection to him he's just simply a beast and should be picked up especially since we can grab him for like 500K.</div>
It really is very simple. He is too slow and unathletic to be an NBA PG. Take the least athletic PG in the NBA today and he is still a much better athlete than Jared Jordan.
It really is very simple. He is too slow and unathletic to be an NBA PG. Take the least athletic PG in the NBA today and he is still a much better athlete than Jared Jordan.
cpawfan
Monsters do exist
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2007
- Messages
- 8,703
- Likes
- 12
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is his worst year statistically out of the last four . . . he seems to have fallen into Scott's doghouse, which may be part of the problem. He does not play consistently or very much. Before this year, he had hit around 37% of his three-point attempts, he never creates a turnover, and he's pretty athletic. Last year, for instance, he started for 38 games and averaged around 14 points and 4.5 rebounds. His field goal percentage is low, but part of that is because half his attempts are three-pointers, whether it is his preference or the demand of Coach Scott. He can't be any worse athletically than Boki (read: a possible improvement defensively)--and, there's no question that he'll be as good if not better than whoever the Nets sign in the off-season. I say, acquire Butler and either deal Boki or let him walk, and give Butler a chance to have a steady role next season. What the Nets need is an outside shooter off the bench . . . he's a slightly better three-point shooter than Kidd (34% the last two years), than Wright, than Marcus, than RJ (35% the last two years which is an "improvement"), and probably Boki (who is at 35%)(Boki hit 42% of his three-point attempts last year but it was an anomoly).
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.</div>
Why and how do you maintain the dream that the Nets are still competing?
If the Nets let BOTH Boki and Wright go, they will need a pair of capable swingmen. Butler could be a start.
More importantly, Magloire doesn't play AT ALL, while Butler will, or should.</div>
Why and how do you maintain the dream that the Nets are still competing?
Dumpy
Yi-ha!!
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2007
- Messages
- 4,231
- Likes
- 24
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 7 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why and how do you maintain the dream that the Nets are still competing?</div>
It probably has something to do with the fact that I fall asleep in the first quarter every night.
It probably has something to do with the fact that I fall asleep in the first quarter every night.
pegs
My future wife.
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2007
- Messages
- 12,079
- Likes
- 12
- Points
- 38
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 7 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 7 2008, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Forget Bobby Jones I'm still astonished at the fact that Jared Jordan is still not in the NBA. He led the NCAA in assists two years straight and the Knicks drafted him but cut him b/c they don't like team players. He is basically the second comming of Jason Kidd. PICK UP JARED JORDAN and put him under Kidd's wing. He's an absolute monster I can't believe this kid is getting overlooked. And it's not even like I'm a Marist fans or I have any connection to him he's just simply a beast and should be picked up especially since we can grab him for like 500K.</div>
It really is very simple. He is too slow and unathletic to be an NBA PG. Take the least athletic PG in the NBA today and he is still a much better athlete than Jared Jordan.
</div>
I'm surprised you actually took the time to reply to that post. Kudos to you, cpaw.
Jared Jordan simply isn't that good. He won't solve any of our problems, and he's not the player we need at all.
IMO what we need is someone like Ime Udoka, or Kyle Lowry. Hell, Bobby Jones and Rasual Butler would be awesome pickups...as would Demetris Nichols, if we could pry him away from Chi-town.
It really is very simple. He is too slow and unathletic to be an NBA PG. Take the least athletic PG in the NBA today and he is still a much better athlete than Jared Jordan.
</div>
I'm surprised you actually took the time to reply to that post. Kudos to you, cpaw.
Jared Jordan simply isn't that good. He won't solve any of our problems, and he's not the player we need at all.
IMO what we need is someone like Ime Udoka, or Kyle Lowry. Hell, Bobby Jones and Rasual Butler would be awesome pickups...as would Demetris Nichols, if we could pry him away from Chi-town.
