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Blazinaway said:
Hmmm ,don't know about the "hated on by the franchise part". For the most part Nurk does not take very much "heat" here IMO, NOTHING compared to CJ. And its only this year so far that I have seen more discontent here, but IMO in general it's far, far from "hated". He is a decent/serviceable Center IMO, nothing more/nothing less. I think many of us thought when he came here he would turn out better than he has, it is what it is. I think there are much more serious issues with this team's personnel than Nurk, he and Roco are both expirings so trades could very well be explored. A LOT depends upon what happens with Olshey and whether a blowup in in the cars or not.
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I said fanbase, not franchise, and I interact with hundreds of Blazer fans during the course of a game and postgame stream. He's hated on. Nurk could be shooting 100% from 2 and people would still say he's finishing terribly because he's too soft.
 
BonesJones said:
I said fanbase, not franchise, and I interact with hundreds of Blazer fans during the course of a game and postgame stream. He's hated on. Nurk could be shooting 100% from 2 and people would still say he's finishing terribly because he's too soft.
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Literally every player has haters. When he reaches Meyers Leonard status let me know.
 
beast crnjo said:
He fumbles the ball all the time and does that stupid flip shot shit.
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Yet he has a higher TS% than Ayton this year, has the same or slightly better career assist to turnover ratio as Ayton, his net steals vs turnovers is basically the same as Ayton so his fumbles are offset by his steals, and he consistently has better overall advanced stats than Ayton.
 
I believe I predicted he will tire of Chauncey after a year and start complaining. So, well done on accelerating his complaining. A bit like his shots when in the post.
 
BonesJones said:
Chauncey isn't utilizing Nurkic like he said he would. I can't blame Nurkic if he feels lied to. Being upset about that combined with how much he's hated on by the fanbase isn't an immaturity thing
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Nah. I watched them try and i watched Nurk do thinks that made it tough to continue.

Now this is even more that just makes it tougher to continue. I'm not defending Stotts overall but he might have had a point when it came to Nurkic.
 
beast crnjo said:
He fumbles the ball all the time and does that stupid flip shot shit.
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It's absolutely maddening. He also seems to jump out of the scheme at times. He seems to decide to just change what he is supposed to be doing mid stream.
 
illmatic99 said:
And he is doing so much for our defense in covering up for so many people. Outside of Norman, Nurk is compensating for all the mistakes the other three starters make. I can get his frustration but going to social to complain is straight out of the Rich Paul playbook.
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There are times when Nurk's defense within the scheme is outstanding.
 
andalusian said:
I believe I predicted he will tire of Chauncey after a year and start complaining. So, well done on accelerating his complaining. A bit like his shots when in the post.
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do you like when people lie to you
 
BonesJones said:
Chauncey isn't utilizing Nurkic like he said he would. I can't blame Nurkic if he feels lied to. Being upset about that combined with how much he's hated on by the fanbase isn't an immaturity thing
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Nurkic isn't good enough to be utilized that way. Stotts figured it out as well.

That's up to Nurk. If he wants to be utilized more he needs to be more effective.

And I like Nurk...
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Nurkic isn't good enough to be utilized that way. Stotts figured it out as well.

That's up to Nurk. If he wants to be utilized more he needs to be more effective.
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hes never been more efficient than this season
 
Nurkic was unhappy in Denver because he believed he should be getting more minutes than Jokic. Nurkic is a good player, but he harbors delusions that he's a great player and seems to rationalize his non-great performance as "coaches not utilizing him correctly."
 
Mr. Robot said:
hes never been more efficient than this season
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Which shows you how out of touch he is with reality. He is a good role player. Great defensive anchor, sub-par on offense. Thinking more of the offense should run through him... 3 NBA head coached gave it a try and determined it makes no sense... There is a reason for that.
 
BonesJones said:
Dudes playing well if you care about defense, rebounding, and finishing.
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He's not the same player he was before the injury. The fact that the we are a below .500 team shows that his impact is lacking.
 
Minstrel said:
Nurkic was unhappy in Denver because he believed he should be getting more minutes than Jokic. Nurkic is a good player, but he harbors delusions that he's a great player and seems to rationalize his non-great performance as "coaches not utilizing him correctly."
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He was borderline great for one season depending on how you define “great”. Top 25 according to advanced stats.
 
wizenheimer said:
well, there could easily be a correlation between his higher efficiency and lower usage and FGA rate
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surely i thought about it, but then again, we wont know unless we see him with higher usage

1 fga less than last season, but his efficiency has gone up 5% (does 1 fga makes that big of a difference)
 
does Nurkic actually believe he'd be utilized a lot more on a different team? That sure doesn't seem to be the way the NBA is trending

and I do think it's worth noting that in Nurkic's mind, Mike Malone, then Terry Stotts, then Billups have all utilized him wrong. For 3 seasons, under Stotts, he averaged about 20.5 shots/100-possessions. Under Billups it's 14.7. I wonder if he still has all that dislike for Stotts he had last season

I'd say a lot of his issue might be from starting with 3 ball-dominant guards. His issue might be with Olshey
 
The issue is with nurk, he is an aweful post player, try to sort this list by efg% and see who brings the rear in the nba

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up/

So you can't play through him there, and his ast/tov ratio is basically 1.05, he practically has a turnover for every assist he gives you.

He does not have the handle or the 3 to playing the perimeter. He is who he is, set screens, roll hard to either be set up or fight for an offensive rebound. That who he is on offense. He is not jokic, he is not embiid, heck, by post efg% he is not even Andre Drummond
 
bobf said:
I’d say it shows what happens when your superstar plays 13 games as a below average NBA player.
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I'd wonder: clearly, the best teammate for getting Nurkic shots the last few seasons has been Dame, and the primary play has been the PnR. So maybe, the fact that Portland is spending a lot more time this season without the ball in Dame's hands is a significant reason why Nurkic's usage and shot attempts are down
 
Nurk is an all star in his own mind. His shot making ability is absolutly terrible. Those one handed 5 footers have to go. He is seven foot and plays like he is 6'8" the way he shots the ball. His slow canter back on defense drives me crazy.
 
wizenheimer said:
well, there could easily be a correlation between his higher efficiency and lower usage and FGA rate
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His FG% is worse than his career from every distance except 0-3 ft where he’s shooting well above at 0.686 vs 0.603 career. He’s also taking a higher fraction of his shots from 0-3 feet at 0.707 vs 0.529 career. His FTR is way up too, probably because of lower usage and more shots at the rim.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd wonder: clearly, the best teammate for getting Nurkic shots the last few seasons has been Dame, and the primary play has been the PnR. So maybe, the fact that Portland is spending a lot more time this season without the ball in Dame's hands is a significant reason why Nurkic's usage and shot attempts are down
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That could well be why Nurk’s usage is down, but by far and away the reason we are not winning as much as we should is Dame’s play. He is costing us something on the order of 6 net point per game vs his prior self.
 
People hate on Whiteside and he is not amazing, but for a minimum deal compared to Nurkic and his bitching....

Nurkic can go get paid this offseason by some random team. He is a position that is dying. He is a decent player but he is too emotional on how he thinks he is so much better. Good luck bro. Go play for someone else where you get paid MLE and bitch about how everyone else is the reason you aren't an all star
 
andalusian said:
The issue is with nurk, he is an aweful post player, try to sort this list by efg% and see who brings the rear in the nba

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up/

So you can't play through him there, and his ast/tov ratio is basically 1.05, he practically has a turnover for every assist he gives you.

He does not have the handle or the 3 to playing the perimeter. He is who he is, set screens, roll hard to either be set up or fight for an offensive rebound. That who he is on offense. He is not jokic, he is not embiid, heck, by post efg% he is not even Andre Drummond
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interesting.

* he's averaging 0.18 ppp on postups; 7.3% of his offense. It's not enough to move above zero on the percentile scale
* last year he averaged 0.74 ppp which was only the 17th percentile (Kanter averaged 1.03 ppp; 68th percentile)
* in 2018-19 he averaged 0.86 ppp; 33rd percentile

* as the PnR roll-man Nurk is averaging 1.12 ppp which is the 54th percentile (38% of his offense)
* last year, 1.13 ppp which was 53rd percentile; Kanter averaged 1.20 which was 69th percentile

* on putbacks, he's averaging 1.29 ppp which is 70th percentile (16% of his offense) (Richaun Holmes avg, is 1.37 ppp)

* on cuts, he's averaging 1.37 ppp; 66th percentile (20% of his offense)

he's obviously not elite at any type of big man offense. I'm not sure he's even average.
 
bobf said:
That could well be why Nurk’s usage is down, but by far and away the reason we are not winning as much as we should is Dame’s play. He is costing us something on the order of 6 net point per game vs his prior self.
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I don't think that reveals what you may think it does

what is says to me is that Portland does not have the talent to be a winning team if Dame is not playing at an elite level. 6 years after Aldridge left and Portland still completely depends on Dame to carry the team. That's not on Dame, it's on management

besides that, 4 of those net points are at the FT line...welcome to the new rules
 
Explain why I should get upset about those tweets? I don't see it. Is this because I'm old?
 
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