Nurk says we need to get more people involved

[dviss1]

His play says it all though.

His play borderlines on cheap and dirty?

Yeah FUCK Jason Quick.

 

[BonesJones]

His play borderlines on cheap and dirty?

Yeah FUCK Jason Quick.

Not what I'm saying..........

 

[dviss1]

Quick evidently apologized to him this off-season so at this point that would say more about CJ than Jason.

So? Quick apologized for lying to publicly humiliate him?

Really? That apology can be accepted?

Yeah... No...

 

[Scalma]

So? Quick apologized for lying to publicly humiliate him?

Really? That apology can be accepted?

Yeah... No...

Not really up to you is it?

 

[dviss1]

Not what I'm saying..........

No, it's what I'm saying.

CJ is clearly still upset with Quick (rightly so IMHO).

Hence the way the answer was given.

 

[dviss1]

Not really up to you is it?

You're exactly right. It's not. It's up to CJ.

It's clear the apology wasn't accepted and for some reason you think it's up to YOU when it comes to CJ accepting it.

 

[BonesJones]

No, it's what I'm saying.

CJ is clearly still upset with Quick (rightly so IMHO).

Hence the way the answer was given.

You changed the context of my statement with your reply. Wasnt talking about his answer, I was talking about his play.

 

[stampedehero]

From our Blazers site:
31 Wins
20 Losses
Home 21 7
Away 10 13
West 17 17
East 14 3
Team Statistics 2018-19 Regular Season

• PTS: 10th Overall 112.8
• FG%: 13th Overall 46.2%
• 3P%: 9th Overall 35.9%
• FT%: 2nd Overall 81.9%
• REB: 2nd Overall 48.2
• AST: 25th Overall 22.6
• BLK: 17th Overall 5.1
• STL: 26th Overall 6.6
• TOV: 15th Overall 14.3
• PF: 21st Overall 20.5

Team Leaders2018-19 Regular Season

• Points Per Game Damian Lillard 26.2
• Rebounds Per Game Jusuf Nurkic 10.4
• Assists Per Game Damian Lillard 6.2
• Blocks Per Game Jusuf Nurkic 1.6

 

[Wizard Mentor]

From our Blazers site:
31 Wins
20 Losses
Home 21 7
Away 10 13
West 17 17
East 14 3
Team Statistics 2018-19 Regular Season

• PTS: 10th Overall 112.8
• FG%: 13th Overall 46.2%
• 3P%: 9th Overall 35.9%
• FT%: 2nd Overall 81.9%
• REB: 2nd Overall 48.2
• AST: 25th Overall 22.6
• BLK: 17th Overall 5.1
• STL: 26th Overall 6.6
• TOV: 15th Overall 14.3
• PF: 21st Overall 20.5

Team Leaders2018-19 Regular Season

• Points Per Game Damian Lillard 26.2
• Rebounds Per Game Jusuf Nurkic 10.4
• Assists Per Game Damian Lillard 6.2
• Blocks Per Game Jusuf Nurkic 1.6

31-20 is on track for a 49.9 win season. Of course, the schedule gets rough, very soon.

 

[Pinwheel1]

and that's a big part of the problem...he's not an efficient shooter:

points/FGA: Blazers 1.25
points/FGA: All Blazers besides CJ 1.27

points/FGA: Meyers 1.43
points/FGA: Dame 1.36
points/FGA: Nurkic 1.34
points/FGA: Layman 1.30
points/FGA: Zach 1.29
points/FGA: Aminu 1.27

points/FGA: CJ 1.16
points/FGA: Seth 1.16
points/FGA: Turner 1.12

(calcs before last night's game)

CJ is shooting 18 shots a game, 7 more than Nurkic, 11 more than Aminu, and 12 more than any other more efficient Blazer shooter.

the point being that CJ is much closer to Turner in efficiency then he is to Dame. He's even closer to Turner then he is to those other 5 players. Looks like he's shooting too much

CJ has been given lots of credit for creating his own shots. But he's only average at doing it, at best. Meanwhile, he's shown elite skills at spot-up and catch & shoot opportunities, but those won't be available while he dribbles. CJ should be spending a lot more possessions off the ball moving around screens and picks; and a lot fewer possessions dribbling.

but this debate always ends up looping back to the weak synergy and heavy redundancy of the Dame/CJ pairing. A few people were questioning it when CJ was drafted. More started to question it when CJ was elevated to starter. It's now grown to a large collection of critics, and those aren't haters, like some argue, but are rather people who can watch basketball games and can see bad fits between players and units. CJ supporters keep saying CJ would shine on another team, away from Dame. CJ detractors really want CJ supporters to be able to watch him on another team...win/win

OMG you are a stats geek. Not a criticism, I respect your research and I am not saying analytics aren't necessary for NBA teams to keep track of. But to me it counts for a very very small percentage of any debate. This is not baseball.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Nurk obviously meant that we need to get Anthony Davis involved in the offense.

 

[TBpup]

From our Blazers site:
31 Wins
20 Losses
Home 21 7
Away 10 13
West 17 17
East 14 3

Unfortunately, given those stats, we don't play and EC team unless we get to the Finals. So we are a .500 team against the teams we will play in the Playoffs. Not exactly super confidence inspiring yet.

 

[wizenheimer]

OMG you are a stats geek. Not a criticism, I respect your research and I am not saying analytics aren't necessary for NBA teams to keep track of. But to me it counts for a very very small percentage of any debate. This is not baseball.

well, what I've seen is that the more stats contradict someone's bias, the more prone they are to say that stats don't matter

I try not to do stats without context. Which means I usually won't just post one stat, especially when it isn't supported by other stats. In the case of CJ's points/FGA, yeah, it makes him look inefficient as a shooter/scorer. But, at the same time he ranks around 8th on the team in points/FGA he also ranks 8th in eFG%, 8th in TS%, 7th in winshares/48, & 8th in BPM

and while he's in the top-20 in the NBA in FGA's, possessions used, and salary but can't crack the top-100 in eFG% or TS% or winshares or BPM, or RPM, saying he's an inefficient scorer isn't just statistical bias

 

[blue9]

From our Blazers site:
31 Wins
20 Losses
Home 21 7
Away 10 13
West 17 17
East 14 3

Unfortunately, given those stats, we don't play and EC team unless we get to the Finals. So we are a .500 team against the teams we will play in the Playoffs. Not exactly super confidence inspiring yet.

And really, we're 7-11 against West PO teams - so not even close .500.

 

[TBpup]

And really, we're 7-11 against West PO teams - so not even close .500.

Further solidifying my assertion that the Blazers are stuck solidly in NBA Purgatory.

 

[joeBlazers]

I wish CJ would shoot for a triple double, every game he plays for the Blazers. We would be a much better team.
He takes too many poor shots. I understand he is a 2-guard. But, even MJ had lots of assists.
There are games he has less than 2 assists? How is this even acceptable? How come coaches don't even call him out on it?

 

[TBpup]

I wish CJ would shoot for a triple double, every game he plays for the Blazers. We would be a much better team.
He takes too many poor shots. I understand he is a 2-guard. But, even MJ had lots of assists.
There are games he has less than 2 assists? How is this even acceptable? How come coaches don't even call him out on it?

Some SG named Clyde Drexler averaged 6 assists during his time in Portland....and the Blazers were much better for it.

 

[BonesJones]

31-20 is on track for a 49.9 win season. Of course, the schedule gets rough, very soon.

Why? Our schedule is much easier than the first three months, even with the road games. And we're playing much better right now and usually play better during the 2nd half.

Over/Under should be at 52.5.

 

[BonesJones]

Also, I'm pissed once again I didn't bet the over on our win total. I don't know how to. That was obvious money right there...

 

[BonesJones]

Further solidifying my assertion that the Blazers are stuck solidly in NBA Purgatory.

Why?

We have a great winning percentage against Eastern Playoff teams right now.

 

[PDXFonz]

....in a trade for AD

 

[TBpup]

Also, I'm pissed once again I didn't bet the over on our win total. I don't know how to. That was obvious money right there...

Very obvious money. There have been a few easy bets in the last year that seemed very obvious at least on a personal level and worked out quite well. Also bet on the Spurs to be over. The were projected at many places 38-39 wins.

 

[wizenheimer]

And really, we're 7-11 against West PO teams - so not even close .500.

Why?

We have a great winning percentage against Eastern Playoff teams right now.

well, Portland is 6-2 against EC playoff teams; like you said, great record...until you examine it. 5 of those 6 wins came in Portland, one against Charlotte, a team 2 games under .500. Another came against Toronto when they were missing Lowry and Valunciunas, plus Siakam for the 4thQ. And another against Philly when they were missing Embiid

in this 'easy' remaining schedule, Portland has a 7 game road trip when 5 of 6 games will be against EC playoff teams. We'll see how they do then

by the way, you need to adjust your narrative about SOS; big time. To this point, Portland has had the 8th most difficult SOS. Their remaining SOS is the 9th most difficult; essentially, no difference. Funny how that changes, and of course, as I've been pointing out, both of those SOS rankings don't account for the fact that Portland has played 5 more home games than road games, the biggest differential in the NBA.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I wish CJ would shoot for a triple double, every game he plays for the Blazers. We would be a much better team.
He takes too many poor shots. I understand he is a 2-guard. But, even MJ had lots of assists.
There are games he has less than 2 assists? How is this even acceptable? How come coaches don't even call him out on it?

Do you remember the offense that MJ was in...and who his point guards were?

 

[BonesJones]

well, Portland is 6-2 against EC playoff teams; like you said, great record...until you examine it. 5 of those 6 wins came in Portland, one against Charlotte, a team 2 games under .500. Another came against Toronto when they were missing Lowry and Valunciunas, plus Siakam for the 4thQ. And another against Philly when they were missing Embiid

in this 'easy' remaining schedule, Portland has a 7 game road trip when 5 of 6 games will be against EC playoff teams. We'll see how they do then

by the way, you need to adjust your narrative about SOS; big time. To this point, Portland has had the 8th most difficult SOS. Their remaining SOS is the 9th most difficult; essentially, no difference. Funny how that changes, and of course, as I've been pointing out, both of those SOS rankings don't account for the fact that Portland has played 5 more home games than road games, the biggest differential in the NBA.

Damn, why doesnt every team go 41-41 since home court matters SO much? You obsess over it, and constantly post about it. Toronto is a really good team without those guys. We would've beat Philly that night even of they had Embiid. You act like a win against Charlotte doesnt count but will also use them to say our remaining SOS is still tough. Cant have it both ways. It sounds to me like you are searching for excuses to not give credit to the team.

And our schedule is easier. I dont care what you have to say about SOS, we games against NOP, BKN (No Dinwiddie), and many mediocre Eastern teams that have much better record due than they would have if they played in the West. This reasoning is why you dont count Charlotte as a legit playoff team, but their record will prop up rSOS more than the actual strength of their team.

I know we have a road trip coming up, I've constantly referenced it as being the only difficult part of our schedule left. After we get back, our schedule is very easy.

You post the same stuff constantly, and I have the same answer.

 

[wizenheimer]

Damn, why doesnt every team go 41-41 since home court matters SO much? You obsess over it, and constantly post about it. Toronto is a really good team without those guys. We would've beat Philly that night even of they had Embiid. You act like a win against Charlotte doesnt count but will also use them to say our remaining SOS is still tough. Cant have it both ways. It sounds to me like you are searching for excuses to not give credit to the team.

And our schedule is easier. I dont care what you have to say about SOS, we games against NOP, BKN (No Dinwiddie), and many mediocre Eastern teams that have much better record due than they would have if they played in the West. This reasoning is why you dont count Charlotte as a legit playoff team, but their record will prop up rSOS more than the actual strength of their team.

I know we have a road trip coming up, I've constantly referenced it as being the only difficult part of our schedule left. After we get back, our schedule is very easy.

You post the same stuff constantly, and I have the same answer.

the very first time I offered my opinion on SOS was after you started extolling the virtues of an easy remaining SOS. I just pointed out that SOS ranking were going to change, game by game, and here we are with Portland's past SOS and future SOS being essentially the same.

and LOL at you going after somebody for "posting the same stuff constantly"....that's a good one mr. kettle

 

[BonesJones]

the very first time I offered my opinion on SOS was after you started extolling the virtues of an easy remaining SOS. I just pointed out that SOS going to change, game by game, and here we are with Portland's past SOS and future SOS being essentially the same.

and LOL at you going after somebody for "posting the same stuff constantly"....that's a good one mr. kettle

I provided proper context. You can choose to accept it, or reject it.

I post the same stuff constantly? That"s laughable. Seems like you tried to come up with some sort of retort but didnt take the time to think about it.

 

[wizenheimer]

I provided proper context. You can choose to accept it, or reject it.

I post the same stuff constantly? That"s laughable. Seems like you tried to come up with some sort of retort but didnt take the time to think about it.

you did not provide "proper" context...you provided your biased context, and yes, I did too. That's the way opinions work when they differ

as for you not posting the same things constantly, it must be another bones jones that fills every damn game thread with the same harping about the same perceived faults of Stotts. Go back to the last game thread when Portland lost and check yourself out

c'mon man...sure, I have my favorite tunes that I'll play over and over; everybody does, including you...at least admit that

 

[BonesJones]

you did not provide "proper" context...you provided your biased context, and yes, I did too. That's the way opinions work when they differ

as for you not posting the same things constantly, it must be another bones jones that fills every damn game thread with the same harping about the same perceived faults of Stotts. Go back to the last game thread when Portland lost and check yourself out

c'mon man...sure, I have my favorite tunes that I'll play over and over; everybody does, including you...at least admit that

Analyzing what's happening during the game thread? That's my reaction to a new game. Often times the same stuff happens.

That's different than posting 3 separate things on SOS only a couple days apart. If you cant see that, then I dont know what to tell you.

Also ironic that you call me biased because I've been called too negative for years. Interesting.

 

[SIeepwalker]