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Putting this here since most doesn't seem to wander into the "sticky threads"



Pretty much a guaranteed that we are going to look to trade Crabbe and/or Leonard in the next year.

I think we will try to move Leonard first, but NO wont get what he wants and will be forced to Move Crabbe, or Both with more added to get what he thinks he can get for just him or the two of them. Meaning. I hate to say it but, Leonard's Value is in the negative right now.
 
With the Plumlee / Nurkic trade, I've updated my salary cap projections for 2017-18.

Summary:
As it stands now with 17 guaranteed contracts (counting 3 first rounders)
Total Salaries: $148,464,746
Tax Bill: $69,975,170


We can only have a max of 15 on the roster. There are currently 17 slots above.
- Assume cut Ezeli
- Assume cut Napier

Total Salaries: $138,773,386
Tax bill : $34,513,504

Wow!
 
I think we will try to move Leonard first, but NO wont get what he wants and will be forced to Move Crabbe, or Both with more added to get what he thinks he can get for just him or the two of them. Meaning. I hate to say it but, Leonard's Value is in the negative right now.
Agree on the value. If we are trying to somewhat tank then I could see Leonard playing huge minutes from now to the end of the season and then seeing if we can deal him in the summer.
 
Putting this here since most doesn't seem to wander into the "sticky threads"



Pretty much a guaranteed that we are going to look to trade Crabbe and/or Leonard in the next year.

Would be the best news. ( #preaching to the choir)
 
It's obvious there's a lot of emotion in your posts Cippy. Which is good we need passionate posters/fans. . .

Nikolokulus is one of the most logical posters on here - and he did just that; he corrected an unfactual statement.

That is all.
I am fine with that. I looked the article back up and went yup, was wrong, guy didn't do it but almost did. Matter of fact they still continued and I didn't respond but OB decided 3 hours later to bring it up again because he has had personal issues with me for whatever reason. So yeah I responded because it's annoying and somebody like that needs their shit called out
 
Agree on the value. If we are trying to somewhat tank then I could see Leonard playing huge minutes from now to the end of the season and then seeing if we can deal him in the summer.

And there in lies a small dillemma. IF Noah is going to be part ofthe future he really needs those minutes at PF and with Nurkic, Leonard isn't getting major minutes in either, unless they are combined, but then Ed gets almost Zero minutes. Odd situation for Leonard and thats why I think he is moved before the deadline as well. Maybe Leonard and Ezeli for another draft pick to a team needing big depth making a run?
 
I pretty sure the person who brought it up the 2nd time hadn't read the thread at all until the 3 hours went past and was half way through it when responding..
 
Really? did you see my post where I post the fucking article and said I got it wrong? I remembered the article from way back, got it wrong then I looked the article back up and the guy almost spray painted the car so I corrected it. This is the problem with society man, couple people on this forum wanna keep it going and make a huge deal about this.

This has gone down in your permanent forum record.
 
And there in lies a small dillemma. IF Noah is going to be part ofthe future he really needs those minutes at PF and with Nurkic, Leonard isn't getting major minutes in either, unless they are combined, but then Ed gets almost Zero minutes. Odd situation for Leonard and thats why I think he is moved before the deadline as well. Maybe Leonard and Ezeli for another draft pick to a team needing big depth making a run?
Another team would need 18 Mil in space (or 8 MIL plus send us a 10 MIL player back) for that to work but I am liking where your head is at. haha
 
I'm not as mad as you think, you just think I am super mad because I said a couple of curse words. *edited* Think what you want of me, I don't care. OB has been doing this for a couple months now with me.

Well, angry or not, you'll have to stop insulting other people.
 
Then don't fucking talk to me, simple as that. You are always trying to start shit with me, it's annoying

I'm not as mad as you think, you just think I am super mad because I said a couple of curse words. *edited* Think what you want of me, I don't care. OB has been doing this for a couple months now with me.
EVERYONE'S OUT TO GET YOU.

Literally, every single person.

Including me.

BOO!
 
We keep secret records on everyone.
Oh gotcha. Yeah that seems about right. I have records on everybody too. Just files and files on everybody because I am so emotional. I keep xanax and drinks by me at all times. All I have time to do in life is post on this forum. It's my life. My cause. EVERYTHING SLY, FUCKING EVERYTHING ITS ALL I HAVE
 
it is an issue, especially in liberal portland where everybody gets their panties in a bunch over the smallest shit. god forbid a plumlee article I got wrong and corrected. Wow biggest problem in life
Lol.
 
Oh gotcha. Yeah that seems about right. I have records on everybody too. Just files and files on everybody because I am so emotional. I keep xanax and drinks by me at all times. All I have time to do in life is post on this forum. It's my life. My cause. EVERYTHING SLY, FUCKING EVERYTHING ITS ALL I HAVE

Do you have any xanax you can spare? Asking for @Minstrel.
 
Conspiracy theory: Olshey paid someone to break into Plumlee's car so that Mason would/could not direct all his anger on Olshey for trading him away.

Conspiracy theory: Quick broke into Plumlee's car so that he'd have something to write about.

barfo
 
Sad to see Plumlee go. He really set a great example to his teammates with his work rate.
Plums with Jokic will be a killer passing front court for Denver - but will only work if Mason can develop that mid range jumper to keep defenses honest (and something I'm willing to let another fan-base watch develop (or not)).

That said, I am excited by the addition of the 'Bosnian Beast' and really think his chippy attitude and toughness down low is exactly what this team needs. Doesn't hurt that he appears to have great fundamentals, along with what looks like great footwork for a guy his size.

That we got a first round pick on top is gravy :rockon:
 
I don't think it is so much him not getting it as victim of dysfunctional roster...that just got a bit more balanced.

We have plenty of players who can shoot from outside. Part of the reason that they don't maker more of their shots is because they are hounded due to no low post presence.

Plumlee playing point Center, as talented as he is at it, is not what we need from the center. We need a guy down low who can take the dish and dunk. A guy who can block shots and push opposing bigs out of the paint.

Now that we have that guy, he will help Vonleh on both ends of the court. Vonleh can now work the perimeter more without fear of getting beat with Nurkic in the paint. Noah is a unique beast who can move side to side very well for his size. Id like to see him worked similar to D Green on the defensive end. A guy who can guard bigs, but can also hedge the perimeter.

On offense, now Noah can play a bit more out and crash the boards on shots. He can be used in picknroll nad picknpop situations and with Nurkic available down low for a dish, I see many ways Nah can have more freedom to improve his post up and mid-long range game.
Tldr, guessing Vonleh needs to grow a pair.
 

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