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Its just sad to hear about hatred, killing, violence, etc, but I've hated, I've been violent, etc. So I just feel bad for the families who lost their brother, son, friend, etc as well even the cop's family I'm sure will have a hard time from media, etc.
 
I swear this exact thing has happened before. I think the cops fired like 60-something shots at an unarmed man, sometime when Guiliani was mayor. And, of course, the apologists were present then too. It seems that the police's only response to any sort of scandal is strict denial. It's both insulting to the victims and counter-productive, because the issue never gets addressed.
 
<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">thank you.

and i really didn't want to get into this but since other members (e.g. NTC) have decided to play the race card, otherwise known as the lowest common denominator- let me say that white victimhood is the saddest farce in american society today. in case u guys don't believe me, think about all the continuing uproar over o.j.; the hysteria over the central park jogger case; the hype about the kobe rape case; and in general, the sensationalism involving crimes with white victims and black perpetrators.</div>

I'm not playing the race card at all, I'm just seeing a common trend of posts you're making that are all relating to issues about the African American race (not that there is anything wrong with that mind you), and I'm wondering to myself, do you actually care about the issues at hand in these kind of topics? or do you only care about the African American race?

I'm with I-Miss-MJ in that regardless of wether it was a Black, White, Hispanic, Asian person involved here, a Human was shot (or shot at) 50 times by "law enforcment" officers. I'm just under the impression that you're only concerned because an African American was killed here and that you would'nt have cared if it was a member of another race.

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just curious.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not playing the race card at all, I'm just seeing a common trend of posts you're making that are all relating to issues about the African American race (not that there is anything wrong with that mind you), and I'm wondering to myself, do you actually care about the issues at hand in these kind of topics? or do you only care about the African American race?

I'm with I-Miss-MJ in that regardless of wether it was a Black, White, Hispanic, Asian person involved here, a Human was shot (or shot at) 50 times by "law enforcment" officers. I'm just under the impression that you're only concerned because an African American was killed here and that you would'nt have cared if it was a member of another race.

I'm not having a go at you, I'm just curious.</div>

reiterating the same point over and over again doesn't make your point my convincing btw. and just for added emphasis, here's what i said in response to that question.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">thats a laughably absurd deduction. first, lamenting the act itself is crying over spilt milk, cause unfortunately i can't bring sean bell back. since u claim to be familiar with american history, here's a refresher for u: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0428-04.htm. in case u were curious, african americans make up 17% of the american population and that figure is declining every year with hispanics moving in, hence all the talk about disproportional numbers in the article. thirdly, i think we all abhor the act (irrespective if race), its kinda part of the human condition to take such a stance. although, my purpose is to prevent arbitrary exercises of forces by the men in blue in the future. lastly, to avoid race in policing or any other matter in america for that matter is avoiding the perennial problem. here's the analogy: donald watson has to run the 100 metre dash in 4 weeks but he's 15 pounds over-weight(race). clearly if donald aspires to do well, he'll lose the bulge (challenge the status quo) but if he's content with just completing the race, he'll maintain the status quo with his weight.</div>

i don't care if u and that dude are in agreement. plainly speaking- its evident u don't understand the issue, the sensitivity of the issue, the complexity and the correct questions to be asked in response.
 
I couldnt understand what the hell you were talking about.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I couldnt understand what the hell you were talking about.</div>

re-read, and look up things u don't get. although, most that particular post focuses on ideas, so its more about u trying to make sense of my arguments.
 
<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">reiterating the same point over and over again doesn't make your point my convincing btw.
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lmao, I don't think he is trying to make a specific point. I'm assuming you're misinterpreting what he is asking you, because the way I see it, he's just asking you whether you would have made this thread had it been a white man that had been shot at 50 times. It's a simple yes or no answer; you responded by writing a full paragraph complete with some next analogy.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">lmao, I don't think he is trying to make a specific point. I'm assuming you're misinterpreting what he is asking you, because the way I see it, he's just asking you whether you would have made this thread had it been a white man that had been shot at 50 times. It's a simple yes or no answer; you responded by writing a full paragraph complete with some next analogy.
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Thank you.

I didnt need some sort of Malcolm X speech as an answer, Yes or No would've been fine.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">lmao, I don't think he is trying to make a specific point. I'm assuming you're misinterpreting what he is asking you, because the way I see it, he's just asking you whether you would have made this thread had it been a white man that had been shot at 50 times. It's a simple yes or no answer; you responded by writing a full paragraph complete with some next analogy.</div>

no absolutes in serious matters. to that end, yes and no are simple conclusions, race isn't simple, hence the paragraph.
 
I don't really get the point of the question. deception didn't even mention race when he posted the thread. He focused more on the fact that the police were unwilling to take responsibility for their actions.
 
what is going on in this Thread????
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<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thank you.

I didnt need some sort of Malcolm X speech as an answer, Yes or No would've been fine.</div>

fyi-my paragraph was more jesse jackson than malcolm. in case u were curious, malcolm advocated black militancy.
 
<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">fyi-my paragraph was more jesse jackson than malcolm. in case u were curious, malcolm advocated black militancy.</div>

deception, you're kind of in a world of your own, man. but what i can understand from your posts, I usually agree with
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<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't really get the point of the question. deception didn't even mention race when he posted the thread. He focused more on the fact that the police were unwilling to take responsibility for their actions.</div>

Forget it, I mis interperated. his original post, my apologies.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Forget it, I mis interperated. his original post, my apologies.</div>

so how do u interpret it now?
 
<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">what is going on in this Thread????
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Basically, NTC187 asked deception if he would care if the people that got shot were white. This could be translated to asking deception if he's racist against white people.

However, this is just a misunderstanding and it should be left at that. He's admitted he misinterperated the post and there's no point in asking him how he interprets it now. I don't think either of you are racist. Just leave it how it is.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
would you have posted this story if it involved a white man instead of a black?</div>

Would the cop still fire 50 shots if it was a white man instead of a black?
 
There was a similar case a few years ago involving a female. She was in the back seat of a car sleeping and when the cops walked to the car to investigate she woke up, startled them, and they unloaded several rounds into her. I'm not sure if that was the incident in NY or not.

This article has some interesting statistics. Philly officers have the most kills this year with 19.

In 1973 NY officers shot and killed 54 people.

After Bell Shooting, NYPD Facing Intense Scrutiny Again
 
<div class="quote_poster">Will637 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Would the cop still fire 50 shots if it was a white man instead of a black?</div>

you live in this country. what do you think?
 
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There was a similar case a few years ago involving a female. She was in the back seat of a car sleeping and when the cops walked to the car to investigate she woke up, startled them, and they unloaded several rounds into her. I'm not sure if that was the incident in NY or not.

This article has some interesting statistics. Philly officers have the most kills this year with 19.

In 1973 NY officers shot and killed 54 people.

After Bell Shooting, NYPD Facing Intense Scrutiny Again</div>

since we're in the mood, this might be the worst cast yet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

-also, i don't think its a coincidence that two of these cases (diallo, louima) involve immigrants who probably had poor command of the language. officers in my opinion aren't given sufficient training on the social, cultural and psychological facets of the job. similarly, there was a case in toronto where police officers killed a mentally challenged, asian man a few years. the probe found that the cops involved were not trained in dealing with such individuals

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">you live in this country. what do you think?</div>

i think that was sarcasm on the posters part, i'm guessing he was trying to reveal just how misguided ntc's question was.

btw, we in canada have some very similar cases up west with native canadians and police officers. specifically there was this one case where a native women was raped but i just can't remember her name right now.
 
Wow. When I read this thread title, the first thing, or person, I thought of was Amadou Diallo. I did a whole project on the Diallo shooting and killing and this is really comparable from what I read so far.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't really get the point of the question. deception didn't even mention race when he posted the thread. He focused more on the fact that the police were unwilling to take responsibility for their actions.</div>

The title of this thread has "Black Man" unnecessarily capitalized. He also posted it in the politics forum.

This is the bottom line:
1) It doesn't make a difference what race the unarmed person was-- this is a despicable act.
2) However, the cop probably did make generalizations and a white man would likely not have been shot at.

<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">thank you.

and i really didn't want to get into this but since other members (e.g. NTC) have decided to play the race card, otherwise known as the lowest common denominator- let me say that white victimhood is the saddest farce in american society today. in case u guys don't believe me, think about all the continuing uproar over o.j.; the hysteria over the central park jogger case; the hype about the kobe rape case; and in general, the sensationalism involving crimes with white victims and black perpetrators.</div>

This is unnecessary garbage.
 
IMO I think race played some part into it. If it would've been a white man I doubt the Police would've unloaded 50 shots. Sadly, that type of stuff happens in our country when it really shouldn't.
 
No offence deception, but do you enjoy pissing people off by going against there opinions. This is a real question, not being a smartass.

EDIT:What happened to the thread?
 
<div class="quote_poster">CPaulDWade#3 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No offence deception, but do you enjoy pissing people off by going against there opinions. This is a real question, not being a smartass.

EDIT:What happened to the thread?</div>

the gestapo happened or the wannabe ones happened.
 
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