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MarAzul

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Heaven no! I mean, noway in hell would he do this! He is a master at planting seed among the adorers and
see what happens. Go play golf and let the staff handle. This is for sure why we need this system to spy on Americans.

But I bet he knew! He knew when the adorers wanted to get a warrant.
 
MarAzul said:
Heaven no! I mean, noway in hell would he do this! He is a master at planting seed among the adorers and
see what happens. Go play golf and let the staff handle. This is for sure why we need this system to spy on Americans.

But I bet he knew! He knew when the adorers wanted to get a warrant.
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I've got a compromise, lets just agree that both our government and the Russian government are spying on us and we take appropriate action.
 
MarAzul said:
Heaven no! I mean, noway in hell would he do this! He is a master at planting seed among the adorers and
see what happens. Go play golf and let the staff handle. This is for sure why we need this system to spy on Americans.

But I bet he knew! He knew when the adorers wanted to get a warrant.
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Are you talking about Trump here?
 
I feel like we're in some bizarro version of America at the moment. Trump can play at being "presidential" for as long as the TelePrompTer is running. Give him a phone and he turns into crazy Uncle Ralph. No matter what insanity he tweets, his backers can't see anything but pearls of wisdom coming from him.
 
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MarAzul said:
Heaven no! I mean, noway in hell would he do this! He is a master at planting seed among the adorers and
see what happens. Go play golf and let the staff handle. This is for sure why we need this system to spy on Americans.

But I bet he knew! He knew when the adorers wanted to get a warrant.
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Sure sign he is/was a good administrator. The back stabbing is part of their duties as well. thCAN9S1AV.jpg
 
Cracks me up that people still feign respect for the orange Richie Rich in the white house....if he's been illegally wiretapped, it should be a priority of his administration to clear it up immediately....more shade on his attempts to distract the media from his Russian connections...apparently the Russians have footage that could ruin Trump and are holding it close to the chest.....so he counters with an attack on Obama....what a flopper! Can we just impeach this jerk tomorrow and move on?
 
riverman said:
Cracks me up that people still feign respect for the orange Richie Rich in the white house....if he's been illegally wiretapped, it should be a priority of his administration to clear it up immediately....more shade on his attempts to distract the media from his Russian connections...apparently the Russians have footage that could ruin Trump and are holding it close to the chest.....so he counters with an attack on Obama....what a flopper! Can we just impeach this jerk tomorrow and move on?
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That's exactly what it is, a distraction. The only reason why he's tweeting about it is because he knows he doesn't have any proof/evidence (and that's not the way you go about this anyways), is because he knows the sheep/idiots will believe it to be 100% true.
 
Trump has access to arguably the best intelligence in the world. He gets top secret presidential daily briefings if he wants. But he prefers blogs and conspiracy mongering web sites with a history of spreading false rumors. He is intellectually lazy and profoundly ignorant man who just cannot cope with anything outside his world view (which is ME ME ME ME ME) so anything outside his world view is tagged "fake news".

There is zero evidence that President Obama did or could have ordered such a "wiretap" and he did not present any.
Like the millions of illegal voters. Like the people bused into New Hampshire. Like the crime wave.
 
He listened to the German President, why would he not listen to Trump?
 
DaLincolnJones said:
He listened to the German President, why would he not listen to Trump?
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1. legal under us law to wiretap foreigners; not legal to wiretap citizens
2. German president might say something meaningful; Trump's interests don't extend much beyond himself

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1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.


2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.


3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.


4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.


5. January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. It purports to show continuous contact between Russia and the Trump campaign, and says that the Russians have compromising information about Trump. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false. Several media outlets claim that they had been aware of the dossier for months and that it had been circulating in Washington.


6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.


7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the exisentence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.


8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — then a private citizen — and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence (perhaps inadvertently) about the content of the conversation.


9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.


10. March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate, and that he was responding to claims in the “dossier” of ongoing contacts. The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well.


In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; then relaxed the NSA rules to allow evidence to be shared widely within the government, virtually ensuring that the information, including the conversations of private citizens, would be leaked to the media.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ma-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/
 
It's the old magician trick. Dangle a big shiny object and everyone looks at it and misses the actual trick.

While everyone looks at this made up bullshit, what is ignored:
Still no ACA replacement plan
Immigration dragging parents from homes, school bus stops, away from their crying children
North Korea fired four missiles
Bringing environmental practices not to pre-Obama but to pre-Nixon days. After all, Russia is heavily polluted to the point where average lifespan has declined as a result and that's the role model for Trump.
Bring back lead bullets, when lead waste kills millions of animals every year.
The Keystone pipeline will be built - with Russian steel. So much for buy American! The steel is ordered from a Russian company whose billionaire owner is a close ally of Putin. His wife is good friends with Ivanka Trump, who invited her to Trump inauguration.

Nope, nothing to see here. Let's investigate imaginary Obama wiretaps.
 
crandc said:
It's the old magician trick. Dangle a big shiny object and everyone looks at it and misses the actual trick.

While everyone looks at this made up bullshit, what is ignored:
Still no ACA replacement plan 2 months into his presidency. Patience.
Immigration dragging parents from homes, school bus stops, away from their crying children Don't come here illegally and commit crime, and it won't be a problem.
North Korea fired four missiles China is building up troops on NK's border. Let them deal with him.
Bringing environmental practices not to pre-Obama but to pre-Nixon days. After all, Russia is heavily polluted to the point where average lifespan has declined as a result and that's the role model for Trump. Wrong. Nowhere has he said that the environment will suffer, and has said numerous times that the environment will be protected.
Bring back lead bullets, when lead waste kills millions of animals every year. Led bullets are far more effective at hunting, and your made-up claim is false.
The Keystone pipeline will be built - with Russian steel. So much for buy American! The steel is ordered from a Russian company whose billionaire owner is a close ally of Putin. His wife is good friends with Ivanka Trump, who invited her to Trump inauguration.

Nope, nothing to see here. Let's investigate imaginary Obama wiretaps.
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So 8 out of 9 of your whining points were bullshit. Try again.
 
I was scrolling through OT and I caught a glimpse of the title as it went past. I thought it read: Obama says he didn't "order" surveillance on Trump Gangbang
 
MarAzul said:
Heaven no! I mean, noway in hell would he do this! He is a master at planting seed among the adorers and
see what happens. Go play golf and let the staff handle. This is for sure why we need this system to spy on Americans.

But I bet he knew! He knew when the adorers wanted to get a warrant.
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I suppose Ms Rice fits the prediction pretty well. Hell she didn't even need a warrant.
 
It is fairly obvious that these surveillance laws need to be corrected. So I would like to see Susan Rice given immunity for this fuck up in exchange for the straight scoop on several
Obama scandals;

What is the reason she went before all the Sunday shows to tell the cock and bull store about the movie that caused Benghazi.

Who come up with the crap about the movie being the cause.

Who initiated the IRS targeting conservative organization.

If the answer is no, about 30 years will be a fair trade.
 
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I don't think impeaching a past President has ever been discussed before. It might be time. Call it, education for those to come.

After all, the rise in the oceans didn't slow either.
 
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Jade Falcon said:
So 8 out of 9 of your whining points were bullshit. Try again.
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Just like her points, a few of your counter points seems to be half truths. But it's politics! Who care about truth! as long as you can yell louder, and get the last word right?
 
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