Obama Should Listen to This Guy

[RoyToy]

If you're going to make the argument that politicians lie then I don't think you'll find many people that disagree with you.

 

[PapaG]

If you're going to make the argument that politicians lie then I don't think you'll find many people that disagree with you.

Then what's your purpose being in this thread, other than to offer numbers that have no basis in reality?

Defending the liar you support, I guess?

 

[RoyToy]

Like I stated numerous times, offering numbers from the other side.

Denny has offered his numbers from conservative websites

So I went ahead and offered numbers from sites that are generally considered to be on the other side

If it were the other way around I'd do the same thing.

You seem to be a little defensive in what I'm doing, and I'm not sure why. Something not to your liking?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Clinton was also White.

Yeah, so he was qualified to be president!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Yeah, so he was qualified to be president!

This was only a joke for you humorless fukks!!

 

[chris_in_pdx]

You seem like miserable person, Chris. You only show up on the Blazer board to jump on the Blazers when they are getting worked, and you post trollish shit like this in the OT section and try to act like you're a rational human being.

So says the troll. Eat a bag of dicks.

 

[PapaG]

So says the troll. Eat a bag of dicks.

"Clinton was white"

Things a troll would post.

 

[Denny Crane]

Like I stated numerous times, offering numbers from the other side.

Denny has offered his numbers from conservative websites

So I went ahead and offered numbers from sites that are generally considered to be on the other side

If it were the other way around I'd do the same thing.

You seem to be a little defensive in what I'm doing, and I'm not sure why. Something not to your liking?

I offered you an Accounting of the numbers. Not from conservative WWW sites. I just did the math and accounting. The conservative WWW site does the accounting properly.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

"Clinton was white"

Things a troll would post.

The truth is what a troll would post? Interesting viewpoint.

 

[Denny Crane]

The truth is what a troll would post? Interesting viewpoint.

Clinton was the first black president.

 

[huevonkiller]

Obama gets to propose the budgets.

Before Bush left office, he proposed the first ever $3T budget. Obama scrapped it first thing and proposed a $3.6T budget. If he stuck with the $3T budget, he'd have added half what he has to the federal debt.

The senate hasn't passed a budget in almost 3 years.

The previous budget (2011) he proposed failed to pass the democratic party controlled senate by a 97-0 vote. Not even his own party, not one senator, thought he was making fiscal sense.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/163347-senate-votes-unanimously-against-obama-budget

And your chart is bullshit. Obama spent lots of money, for example, on Iraq and escalating the war in Afghanistan. HIS choice. The buck stops where?

Beautiful. I love the way progressives ignore him tripling the size of our military in Afghanistan. Not only is Obama a Neocon, he's the worst kind.

 

[huevonkiller]

Trust the govt. figures.

Bush had a ~$400B deficit in 2008. Add in TARP for 2009 and you get $1.2T.

Is that $1.2T structural? No. Because TARP was a one time emergency lump of spending. And Obama spent half of it. The deficit should have gone back to $400B the following year. In fact, if TARP money was repaid, that $400B would be less accordingly.

With the $1.5T sized deficits each of Obama's years, you cannot possibly blame Bush for it. He left a $400B structural deficit to Obama.

Now get this. The govt. actually spent a few $trillion more under Obama that's not on the books. The Fed printed money to pay down over $2T of the previous debt (not deficit!). So you might say bush added $3.4T in 8 years to the debt, net $1.4T after QE1 and QE2. Obama's contribution to the debt starts looking like the $9T it really is.

We're also experiencing stagflation because of the Fed. Wealth does not get created out of thin air.