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anything to distract from the economy i suppose

:MARIS61:
 
Anything to distract from the rest of his administration people embarrassing him.

He may have been for gay marriage all along, good for him. It's not good when appealing to the black voter though. And I'm quite sure there's a political calculation to all this and nothing more.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-announces-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

I believe he's the first American president to openly do so. But it wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong.


It wouldn't be the first time he was wrong either, so it's all good.


I don't see what the big deal is, really? Conservatives don't think it is biblical, so why not let God deal with it? Let them get married all they want, and then laugh at them when God denies them entry into heaven. I mean if that's what they believe, why are you fighting it so hard?
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-gay-marriage/2012/05/09/gIQAxlsWDU_blog.html

Let’s start with the pluses.
1. Public opinion: The movement in national polling on the issue is something rarely seen; support for gay marriage is rapidly rising even as support rapidly erodes.
Here’s a chart of the legal/illegal question in Washington Post-ABC News polling since 2004:

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Those trend lines suggest that large majorities of the public will be supportive of the legalization of gay marriage before too long.
2. Excite the activist base: The LGBT community is not only a major part of the Democratic base but they also comprise some of the most politicalyl active people in the party. While Obama had a case to make — his decision to end “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and the Justice Department’s announcement that they won’t defend the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act — that he had already done a lot for the LGBT community, this is a cherry on top that wins him not only their votes but, as importantly, their volunteer hours.
3. Excite the donor base: One in six Obama’s 2012 campaign bundlers are gay, according to research conducted by the Post’s Dan Eggen and T.W. Farnam. Couple that fact with the news earlier this week that George Soros, one of the most prominent Democratic major donors in the country, was directing his contributions to grassroots groups rather than the super PAC expected to fund TV ads supporting Obama and it’s clear that the president badly needs a heavy investment from Hollywood and Silicon Valley. And those two communities are heavily in favor of gay marriage. (Don’t forget: Obama is headed to Hollywood tonight for a fundraiser at the house of actor George Clooney.)
4. Rally young people: It’s no secret that for President Obama to win, he needs a heavily consolidated vote among 18-29 year olds. And, polling suggests that the age group most supportive of gay marriage is — you guessed it! — 18-29 year olds. In a year’s worth of Post-ABC polling — from March 2011 to March 2012 — fully 65 percent of people aged 18-29 say gay marriage should be legal while 61 percent of those aged 30-39 said the same.
5. A principled stand: Since Biden’s comments on Sunday, the White House — and the President — have been thrust into an awkward position. If he is still evolving on the issue, why? What other information does he need? He has looked like exactly what his team doesn’t want him to be: a regular old politician. Watch for the campaign to cast his decision to come out in support of gay marriage as just the sort of principled stand that differentiate him from that image.
And now, the minuses.
1. Not a slam dunk: As we wrote earlier this week, while a majority of people in the country now favor gay marriage it’s far from the sort of overwhelming majority that would prompt Obama to change his position without, of course, the (unplanned) prompting of Biden. Key subgroups like white voters (53 percent support legalization/43 percent oppose it) and voters aged 40-49 (52 percent support) are only narrowly on board with legalization. And, in an election year, no politician — including Obama — wants to tackle an issue where public opinion is that closely divided.
2. The black community: If the LGBT vote is a pillar of Obama’s base, the African American vote is an even bigger pillar. (In a recent Post poll in Virginia, Obama was beating former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney 97 percent to one percent among black voters.) And, African Americans have consistently been one of the groups most resistant to gay marriage. In that year’s worth of Post-ABC polling, just 42 percent said they support legalization while 55 percent oppose it. Yes, it’s unlikely that black voters leave Obama in droves over the issue. But it’s easier to see this decision taking some of the passion for him out of this community.
3. Virginia/North Carolina: President Obama won both states in 2008 and his campaign is targeting both again in 2012. (The Democratic National Convention this summer will be held in Charlotte.) While both states have changed demographically and politically over the past decade (or so), large portions of both states remain culturally quite conservative and might balk at Obama’s support for same-sex marriage. (Amendment One, which makes the only legal union in the state as between a man and a woman, passed with 60 percent of the vote on Tuesday in North Carolina.)
4. Flip flopping: Romney has a reputation for flip flopping that Democrats have made considerable political hay out of over these past few months. Obama’s change on gay marriage allows Republicans a strong counter to the charge that their nominee is the only one in the race who lacks a core. While it’s hard to imagine Republicans devoting all that much time to a social issue — and therefore away from the economy — it gives them a way to fight back on a perception that clearly is hurting Romney.
In the end, President Obama had little choice but to get off the fence on the issue given the furor caused by Biden. The decision is now made. How it plays politically won’t be determined for several months — or maybe until November.
 
Yeah, from what I heard, the politicians like to wait until the polls suggest the majority of americans support the idea.
 
Anything to distract from the rest of his administration people embarrassing him.

He may have been for gay marriage all along, good for him. It's not good when appealing to the black voter though. And I'm quite sure there's a political calculation to all this and nothing more.

+1. But Obama has done enough to embarrass himself - it's not all been the work of his administration.

So... lemme guess. You'll be voting for Denny Crane in 2012?!?!?!?!?
 
+1. But Obama has done enough to embarrass himself - it's not all been the work of his administration.

So... lemme guess. You'll be voting for Denny Crane in 2012?!?!?!?!?

Alan Shore is a bit on the liberal side, but he's the right guy to be a heartbeat away from being president.
 
Alan Shore is a bit on the liberal side, but he's the right guy to be a heartbeat away from being president.

LMAO. True dat.

Speaking of Obama, anyone see the video of Obama in Russia? He stuck out his hand to shake everyone's hand as he walked down the line, and everyone blew him off. His face is priceless. He's realizing that they're all ignoring him. Funny as hell.
 
LMAO. True dat.

Speaking of Obama, anyone see the video of Obama in Russia? He stuck out his hand to shake everyone's hand as he walked down the line, and everyone blew him off. His face is priceless. He's realizing that they're all ignoring him. Funny as hell.

Actually, I saw a couple of videos that really surprised me.

One was W meeting the troops in Iraq. The soldiers were cheering when he was introduced.

The other was Obama meeting the troops in Afghanistan. It was dead quiet with "hail to the chief" being played by the band.

Found it

[video=youtube;xIHz5tevLAw]
 
Actually, I saw a couple of videos that really surprised me.

One was W meeting the troops in Iraq. The soldiers were cheering when he was introduced.

The other was Obama meeting the troops in Afghanistan. It was dead quiet with "hail to the chief" being played by the band.

Found it

[video=youtube;xIHz5tevLAw]



I find it curious how these types of videos and what not don't make it into our national news. You have to dig to find these types of things. Nothing negative about Obama shall be on the news - EVER!!

Obama controls the media like no other. I'd say he has been arguably the best leader in the entire world at controlling the media since.......


Hitler.
 
Actually, I saw a couple of videos that really surprised me.

One was W meeting the troops in Iraq. The soldiers were cheering when he was introduced.

The other was Obama meeting the troops in Afghanistan. It was dead quiet with "hail to the chief" being played by the band.

Found it

[video=youtube;xIHz5tevLAw]


That was painful to watch. Obama's arrival was like an SNL skit. All it was missing was some guy coughing in the background for effect.
 
It's the oddest thing, actually.

W mobilized the national guard and reserves. Those guys figured to do a weekend a month and 2 weeks a year of service here in the states. W deployed them overseas, taking them away from job, family, and friends, Yet they clearly loved him.

[video=youtube;06YwQpJLAbI]

W doesn't like black people.
 
I'm not surprised, Obama is not a good old boy.
 
I don't have a problem with a President making clear his stance on this issue. Whether it hurts him politically or not remains to be seen.
 
It's completely political.

He's a politician - did you expect any different?

Politics aren't about honesty. They're about doing whatever it takes to keep your position, and/or get you to the position you want to be in.
 
i agree with the douchey clint eastwood photo meme.
 
the neo-kinds have ruined that political belief, and reputation.

No argument from me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_life_of_Clint_Eastwood

He usually describes himself as a libertarian in interviews.[4] He told USA Weekend in 2004, "I don't see myself as conservative, but I'm not ultra-leftist. ... I like the libertarian view, which is to leave everyone alone. Even as a kid, I was annoyed by people who wanted to tell everyone how to live."[5]

When asked his opinion of the 2012 Republican presidential candidates in February 2012, Eastwood replied that Texas Congressman Ron Paul was "'as good as anybody else' in the race but that he will decide on a candidate in another month or two after 'listening to all that crap on television.'"[12]
 
Seems like he might be a third party Gary Johnson kind of guy this turn.
 

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