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To keep our the health plan with the same deductible and the close to the same physician network, our premiums are increasing over 38%. That's money if we don't pass through to our employees, we'll take it from everyone's bonuses across the board.

It looks like our decision to wind down our firm was the right one.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Haven't heard about it, but I'm not a big news guy. Personally, Obamacare hasn't seemed to pierce my own little bubble of life as I haven't really run into anyone who has been affected by it. But I'm sure it is negatively affecting people out there and think it absolutely sucks what happened to you. I hope you can afford health insurance because I believe everyone should have health insurance.
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Oh I believe probably all the former employees bought replacement insurance.
The thing is we didn't have to buy before this wonderful plan. Then the rude awakening came,
we could not buy coverage like we had. zero deductible zero copay. Now we have insurance with
big deductibles and phony networks. My wife's plan was the only one offered by the exchange
we had to use for our area, and it only had one doctor that was in plan. So, no brainier, that's what we got for her. Just found out last week, that doctor is quitting the practice.
Now WTF to do? Wait until next year I guess.
 
maxiep said:
To keep our the health plan with the same deductible and the close to the same physician network, our premiums are increasing over 38%. That's money if we don't pass through to our employees, we'll take it from everyone's bonuses across the board.

It looks like our decision to wind down our firm was the right one.
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Are telling us, that everyone is paying for KingSpeed ? Gee, who would have thought that might happen!!
 
MarAzul said:
Oh I believe probably all the former employees bought replacement insurance.
The thing is we didn't have to buy before this wonderful plan. Then the rude awakening came,
we could not buy coverage like we had. zero deductible zero copay. Now we have insurance with
big deductibles and phony networks. My wife's plan was the only one offered by the exchange
we had to use for our area, and it only had one doctor that was in plan. So, no brainier, that's what we got for her. Just found out last week, that doctor is quitting the practice.
Now WTF to do? Wait until next year I guess.
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Hey, it's a free market. If you don't like what your employer gives you for health care, you should just quit.

Oh, you already did? And your former employer isn't actually required to give you anything? Hmm.

And employers have been cutting back on retiree health benefits for years now, to the point where last year only about a quarter of companies offered anything? But your company was one of those that did?

And they are still giving you something, just not quite as much as they used to?

Well, gee. I think it's time you learned to pull yourself up by your bootstraps instead of relying on handouts.

barfo
 
maxiep said:
To keep our the health plan with the same deductible and the close to the same physician network, our premiums are increasing over 38%. That's money if we don't pass through to our employees, we'll take it from everyone's bonuses across the board.

It looks like our decision to wind down our firm was the right one.
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Most likely it was. If you can't negotiate a better deal than that, you probably aren't cut out for running a business.

You do know the rates are negotiable, right?

barfo
 
barfo said:
Hey, it's a free market. If you don't like what your employer gives you for health care, you should just quit.

Oh, you already did? And your former employer isn't actually required to give you anything? Hmm.

And employers have been cutting back on retiree health benefits for years now, to the point where last year only about a quarter of companies offered anything? But your company was one of those that did?

And they are still giving you something, just not quite as much as they used to?

Well, gee. I think it's time you learned to pull yourself up by your bootstraps instead of relying on handouts.

barfo
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Not to worry Barf, I will be around to applaud when you show you can actual think.
 
barfo said:
Most likely it was. If you can't negotiate a better deal than that, you probably aren't cut out for running a business.

You do know the rates are negotiable, right?

barfo
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Gotta remember that idea when I buy a new car next time. Not sure if getting the car free is good enough or if I should hold out for a bj from the hot female receptionist too.

Will definitely want free floormats or no deal, bj or no bj.
 
I am of the Pelosi school of posting. Even on my kick ass Note 3 I still make mistakes so....

I gotta POST it so I can know what was IN it.

Then I will go edit if needed.
 
Wow, this thread actually has a civilized debate. That's a first.


*3 Pages Later*: Aaaaand it's gone.
 
KingSpeed said:
I don't have a wealthy spouse. Where did you get that idea? And I'm not rich. I just make Blazers a priority. Leaving LA this month because we can't afford rent. Headed back to NYC.
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Hey King..With all due respect, I think the point is that your situation is a perfect example of how fucked up obamacare really is. If you could afford to pay 1100 per month, how in the world do you qualify for medical/medicaid? Meanwhile others have lost benefits or have had to incur rate hikes..
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Fuck I hate shit like that. Correct grammar should be a requirement if you are going to type shit like that.
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piss off..If you could make a point with half the insight, I would not care if you spoke pidgin English. No need to be a snob.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Hey King..With all due respect, I think the point is that your situation is a perfect example of how fucked up obamacare really is. If you could afford to pay 1100 per month, how in the world do you qualify for medical/medicaid? Meanwhile others have lost benefits or have had to incur rate hikes..
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Yes, I didn't make myself that clear. A guy who can afford to travel around the US following a basketball team, and who thinks moving to NYC from LA somehow makes financial sense in terms of saving money, shouldn't be getting subsidies, IMO. I'm happy for KS that his payments have been lowered, but families who save up for a trip every 3rd year to Disneyland are paying for those subsidies.
 
PapaG said:
Yes, I didn't make myself that clear. A guy who can afford to travel around the US following a basketball team, and who thinks moving to NYC from LA somehow makes financial sense in terms of saving money, shouldn't be getting subsidies, IMO. I'm happy for KS that his payments have been lowered, but families who save up for a trip every 3rd year to Disneyland are paying for those subsidies.
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hmm I had no problem extrapolating your intended meaning. Some just enjoy being obtuse.
 
KingSpeed said:
I don't have a wealthy spouse. Where did you get that idea? And I'm not rich. I just make Blazers a priority. Leaving LA this month because we can't afford rent. Headed back to NYC.
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I can't have apartments in Malibu AND Manhattan at the same time. #firstworldproblems
 
I posted a month ago that at the start of this year, Group Health decreased my private (not Obamacare, or the decrease would be even more) premium by $60 (when it usually would have gone up about 50, thus a net decreasee of 110) and said in a form letter that the decrease was caused by Obamacare.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
piss off..If you could make a point with half the insight, I would not care if you spoke pidgin English. No need to be a snob.
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Ok, now for some real insight. I don't like Obamacare. I don't agree with much of anything Obama...I mean Barfo thinks. I don't however like when people pretty much call someone an idiot yet write like one themselves. I am far from an English major but that is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
 
The guy at MIT who was one of the architects of Obamacare states that it isn't intended (and in fact, isn't) saving money. It was intended to lower healthcare costs.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
The guy at MIT who was one of the architects of Obamacare states that it isn't intended (and in fact, isn't) saving money. It was intended to lower healthcare costs.
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The Harvard guy that got elected president promised a savings of $2500 per household.
 
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) gave a speech on the floor of the Senate about “plenty of horror stories being told” about Obamacare and said that “all of them are untrue.”
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Go Blazers
 
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