Observations

[Scalma]

Thing about Wes is that the Mavs don't really have any other defensive SGs. They have Seth Curry but then nobody else. So they'd want an actual SG in return. If it was Evan Turner, then hallelujah, but somehow I doubt it.

You know who's stacked with SGs? Denver. Maybe we could get Will The Thrill back! (They love Gary Harris and they have no incentive to trade Murray yet.)

The guy I like on Denver is Malik Beasley. I'd take Barton too but I doubt Denver is eager to trade with Portland again lol

 

[42N8Bounce]

I’m pretty sure my numbers account for that. It should still be around 91 mil on the books even without adding resigning Nurk.

2018-19 Salaries:

Guaranteed:
Dame, $27,977,689
CJ, $25,759,766
Turner, $17,868,852
Harkless, $10,837,079
Leonard, $10,595,506
Aminu, $6,957,105
Collins, $3,628,920
Swanigan, $1,740,000
Varejao (stretched), $1,984,005
Ezeli (stretched), $333,333
Nichols (stretched), $2,844,430
Total Guaranteed: $110,526,685
(estimated CAP=$101,000,000)

Qualifying Offers (restricted FAs):
Vonleh, $4,749,591
Nurk, $4,140,964
Napier, $3,452,308
Connaughton, $1,839,228
Briscoe, $1,551,118 (contingent on making the 2017-18 roster)

Non-Guaranteed:
Layman, $1,544,951

Free-Agents (unrestricted):
Davis (Blazers hold Bird rights - can go over the CAP to re-sign up to player max salary.)

Since we'll be over the CAP, we'll only have the ability to:
- match our restricted FAs
- Bird rights to re-sign Davis
- use our mid-level exception
x use bi-annual exception
- add players on the rookie scale
- sign min-level players.
- $12.9M Player Trade Exception (Not usable to sign FAs)

 

[handiman]

The Nulk!

You won't like him when he's angry.

Or as Voodoo Donuts says, "you won't like him when he's hungry."

 

[rotary111]

The thing we haven't seen yet is Collin's shooting touch. This kid can flat out shoot the ball, give him a game or three to get his comfort level up a bit, then watch out! At Gonzaga he showed he had range out to the 3 point line. I can't wait to see these two grow together. The future is bright.

 

[AFully22]

2018-19 Salaries:

Guaranteed:
Dame, $27,977,689
CJ, $25,759,766
Turner, $17,868,852
Harkless, $10,837,079
Leonard, $10,595,506
Aminu, $6,957,105
Collins, $3,628,920
Swanigan, $1,740,000
Varejao (stretched), $1,984,005
Ezeli (stretched), $333,333
Nichols (stretched), $2,844,430
Total Guaranteed: $110,526,685
(estimated CAP=$101,000,000)

Qualifying Offers (restricted FAs):
Vonleh, $4,749,591
Nurk, $4,140,964
Napier, $3,452,308
Connaughton, $1,839,228
Briscoe, $1,551,118 (contingent on making the 2017-18 roster)

Non-Guaranteed:
Layman, $1,544,951

Free-Agents (unrestricted):
Davis (Blazers hold Bird rights - can go over the CAP to re-sign up to player max salary.)

Since we'll be over the CAP, we'll only have the ability to:
- match our restricted FAs
- Bird rights to re-sign Davis
- use our mid-level exception
- use bi-annual exception
- add players on the rookie scale
- sign min-level players.

Yea I looked back on it and my mistake was thinking the total guaranteed number included some of the RFA’s. That’s a lot worse then I thought. Not that we are players in free agency anyways but it would be nice to know we had that as an option.

 

[Trackjack]

The thing we haven't seen yet is Collin's shooting touch. This kid can flat out shoot the ball, give him a game or three to get his comfort level up a bit, then watch out! At Gonzaga he showed he had range out to the 3 point line. I can't wait to see these two grow together. The future is bright.

I heard he won 3 point shooting contest in practice.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I heard he won 3 point shooting contest in practice.

if only we had someone who had access to practice events and juicy tidbits like that...

 

[BrianFromWA]

In all seriousness, while I still wonder what Harry Giles will end up doing, seeing how ready Collins was on the D end made me feel a bit better, that this wouldn't be a redshirt year by a guy who may not contribute for a while. We don't need 15ppg from the guy, but smart D would be a refreshing change.

 

[Trackjack]

I don't think Giles will get any run for the kings he got a lot players in front of him.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

In all seriousness, while I still wonder what Harry Giles will end up doing, seeing how ready Collins was on the D end made me feel a bit better, that this wouldn't be a redshirt year by a guy who may not contribute for a while. We don't need 15ppg from the guy, but smart D would be a refreshing change.

After Neil drafted Lillard, there were a lot of nonbelievers.... Weber State? Can he compete?
After Neil drafted CJ, there were a lot of questions... Duplication? How many 6'3" PGs do you need?

Both times, Neil was vindicated.

By the end of this season the consensus will be that Neil hit it out of the park, yet again. Collins will be starting and the national media are going to talk about how we built through the draft.

 

[Scalma]

After Neil drafted Lillard, there were a lot of nonbelievers.... Weber State? Can he compete?
After Neil drafted CJ, there were a lot of questions... Duplication? How many 6'3" PGs do you need?

Both times, Neil was vindicated.

By the end of they season the consensus will be that Neil hit it out of the park, yet again. Collins will be starting and the national media are going to talk about how we built through the draft.

And you'll still get a thread on here about who we should've drafted instead.

 

[julius]

And you'll still get a thread on here about who we should've drafted instead.

Harrison FUCKING Barnes!

 

[Denny Crane]

I’m not a great cap guy but I think we would be heading into 2018-19 season with 109.7 mil on the books with a salary cap estimated at 102 mil and a 124 mil luxury tax.

So if we trade or choose not to resign Connaughton, Vonleh, Napier, and wait to resign Nurkić we would be at 97.4 mil on the books. Not enough to make a big time offer. BUT if we trade Aminu for cap space we would be down to 90.4 mil and could offer a much better contract starting at 12 mil for the first year and increasingly more the next however many years.

I'm not going to say my numbers are perfect, but I think they're close.



The starting point is $149.4M, including cap holds.

Guaranteed salaries are $104.9M, but we have $5.2M in stretch provisioned contracts to consider, so we're at $110M.

Nurkic MAX contract is 25% of the cap, which is roughly what Dame makes. Add him in and the roster charge (vet minimum x 3) for 3 roster spots (since we're only at 9 players at this point), and we're at $139M.

Luxury Tax threshold is $123M, so we're $16M over, even if we renounce Vonleh, Davis, Napier, Connaughton, and Morrow.

Even if we renounced them all and just used Nurk's cap hold figure, we're well over the cap and have no room to offer a FA cap space. We can offer MLE and other exceptions though (BAE, vet minimum).

EDIT:

I did not include Layman as I think he's simply going to be renounced. His contract is not guaranteed.

Also, Mo will likely get a $500K bonus, which I didn't include. That would make my $110M figure and @42N8Bounce's identical.

 

[TBpup]

After Neil drafted Lillard, there were a lot of nonbelievers.... Weber State? Can he compete?
After Neil drafted CJ, there were a lot of questions... Duplication? How many 6'3" PGs do you need?

Both times, Neil was vindicated.

By the end of they season the consensus will be that Neil hit it out of the park, yet again. Collins will be starting and the national media are going to talk about how we built through the draft.

Outside of Meyers, Olshey has been very good in the Draft. It's his trades, FA signings and offers that very fortunately were turned down that has been the issue.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Outside of Meyers, Olshey has been very good in the Draft. It's his trades, FA signings and offers that very fortunately were turned down that has been the issue.

The Davis and Aminu contracts were excellent, getting Lopez for nothing, taking a flyer on TRob, Harkless.... all really good. We avoided Chandler Parsons, but I'd definitely consider trading ET for Parsons straight up right now. The Turk was just traded for Carmelo, so other GMs like him, too.

He's done really well outside the draft, too, though not perfect.

 

[H.C.]

What I have not seen mentioned is the oh-so-critical performance of Calabro and Hurd.

Personally, I found them both to be less annoying that I had remembered.

So...improved?

The test for these two will be when we play GSW.
If they refer to the Portland as a Cali team again this year the criticism will return.

But in all serious, I watched to the game on mute.

 

[dviss1]

if only we had someone who had access to practice events and juicy tidbits like that...

That's it, I quit!!

 

[dviss1]

In all seriousness, while I still wonder what Harry Giles will end up doing, seeing how ready Collins was on the D end made me feel a bit better, that this wouldn't be a redshirt year by a guy who may not contribute for a while. We don't need 15ppg from the guy, but smart D would be a refreshing change.

I also noticed he's put on a few lbs since Summer League.