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Where were the warning signs?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insi...espn.go.com/nba/insider/news/story?id=5603343

One league exec took the under on a proposed 41 games played this season for Oden. "Every single year of his life since seventh grade, he was either injured or interrupted significantly by an injury," the exec said. "His presence is a total wild card."

Why the lingering issues? One rival GM points to Oden's physical growth. "His issue is that he's so heavy," he said. "He's up 60 pounds from his playing weight in college, and our vets say he's the strongest center they've ever faced. The weight is a huge factor for him."
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Holy cow. Did our scouts know this before we drafted him?
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Where were the warning signs?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insi...espn.go.com/nba/insider/news/story?id=5603343
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I've been injured every year of my life since the 7th grade. Didn't keep me from getting back to work that next Monday after whatever ouchie I got.

The only stat you need to know since the 7th grade on Oden is that he was the nationally recognized high school player of the year for two years (the only player in history with that distinction other than LeBron, although had they had the award back in the day, I'm sure Lew Alcindor, Wilt and maybe Magic or Shaq would have won the award as well).

The point is, you don't have injuries that actually impact your playing time and get nationally recognized for your domination of the game throughout high school. Sure, you sprain an ankle and miss a practice, but you don't miss like a quarter of your season from some real injury and still make every scouts list as the most dominant player out there statistically.
 
he's missed major chunks of basketball in 2 seasons. One was a freak injury (last year) the other wasn't (the MF).

The other year? he missed a little bit, and in college he came back early.

And seriously, what athlete period hasn't had injuries every year of their life playing sports?

Maybe this "exec" was thinking of Andrew Bynum who played 10 games in high school.
 
One league exec took the under on a proposed 41 games played this season for Oden. "Every single year of his life since seventh grade, he was either injured or interrupted significantly by an injury," the exec said. "His presence is a total wild card."

Why the lingering issues? One rival GM points to Oden's physical growth. "His issue is that he's so heavy," he said. "He's up 60 pounds from his playing weight in college, and our vets say he's the strongest center they've ever faced. The weight is a huge factor for him."
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So, did he go to college before 7th grade? If so, then this makes perfect sense. If not, well, then it really doesn't.

barfo
 
Is this guy seriously trying to insinuate that GO weighed 215 in college?

LOL
 
yuyuza1 said:
Is this guy seriously trying to insinuate that GO weighed 215 in college?

LOL
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And that he was 60 lbs over his college playing weight since 7th grade.

That IS a problem.
 
The only part I read was that the Vets said he was the strongest center thay had EVER faced.
 
"One league exec..."

"One rival GM..."

So, when did Canzano with his "unnamed sources" start writing for ESPN Insider?

And seriously, said "exec" and said "rival GM" would have both taken Oden in a heartbeat and would have soiled their underwear in the process for the chance to draft him.

This article is total bullshit. The injury to Oden's right wrist was his first significant injury, and the surgery came AFTER he finished high school. And, unless he was walking on his hands, I don't see how his weight could have contributed to that injury.

Oden has had a series of unfortunate, mostly unrelated injuries. Perhaps the fractured patella was an after effect of banging knee caps with Corey Magette. If so, that's the ONLY time two of his injuries were related. The only pattern I see here is one of bad luck. It's not like he's had the same lingering injury over and over.

The other pattern I see is people in the media grasping at straws to dog pile on a guy who's down on his luck and seeking out "execs" and "rival GMs" with 20:20 hindsight who would have drafted Oden over Durant, but now want to change history and say they knew all long Oden would struggle to stay healthy. Where were all these geniuses at the time of the 2007 draft when 29 of 30 polled GMs said they'd take Oden over Durant?

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
"One league exec..."

"One rival GM..."

So, when did Canzano with his "unnamed sources" start writing for ESPN Insider?

And seriously, said "exec" and said "rival GM" would have both taken Oden in a heartbeat and would have soiled their underwear in the process for the chance to draft him.

This article is total bullshit. The injury to Oden's right wrist was his first significant injury, and the surgery came AFTER he finished high school. And, unless he was walking on his hands, I don't see how his weight could have contributed to that injury.

Oden has had a series of unfortunate, mostly unrelated injuries. Perhaps the fractured patella was an after effect of banging knee caps with Corey Magette. If so, that's the ONLY time two of his injuries were related. The only pattern I see here is one of bad luck. It's not like he's had the same lingering injury over and over.

The other pattern I see is people in the media grasping at straws to dog pile on a guy who's down on his luck and seeking out "execs" and "rival GMs" with 20:20 hindsight who would have drafted Oden over Durant, but now want to change history and say they knew all long Oden would struggle to stay healthy. Where were all these geniuses at the time of the 2007 draft when 29 of 30 polled GMs said they'd take Oden over Durant?

BNM
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QFT, however I would have bolded a different word:

"One rival GM..."
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The author picked out what the lowest opinion was. What did the other guys say? How many did you talk to? What did the guy with the highest opinion say? It is interesting that ONE GM thinks that, but a long way from the whole story. Mediocre journalism.
 
I think GO is carrying too much weight. I'd like to see him more David Robinson than Shaq. I think it would be easier on his joints. But what do I know?
 
Just to combine all the horseshit into one thread:

So I was reading the Greg Oden FanPost, and my wife mentioned that she had a client who worked for the Blazers.

Let me note here that my wife doesn't know anything about the Blazers except what she's heard from me.

After asking if he could get us tickets, and her shooting it down (hey- it never hurts to ask), she mentions that KP was fired because of the Oden/ Durant flap.

I responded that Allen has always liked athletic scorers, and it's no shock he wanted Durant.

She then says, no, it was the other way around. KP wanted Durant. Badly. And Allen vetoed him and insisted on Oden. And apparently KP held that over Allen's head any time they disagreed. Allen decided he didn't like that, and KP was gone.

The other thing she shared is that the general feeling around the Blazers is that something is very wrong with Greg from a physiological standpoint. The advanced aging that everyone jokes about is not limited to his face and the way he walks- he actually has advanced aging in his joints and other parts of his body as well.

I know this is sketchy, but let me just say that my wife has a near-photographic memory, and absolutely no cause to BS here. The Blazers employee may have an agenda, but she says he's about the most honest, straightforward guy she's worked with.
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Man, I'm getting tired of all this shit. The season can't start soon enough.
 
espn_hall_of_famer said:
I've been injured every year of my life since the 7th grade. Didn't keep me from getting back to work that next Monday after whatever ouchie I got.

The only stat you need to know since the 7th grade on Oden is that he was the nationally recognized high school player of the year for two years (the only player in history with that distinction other than LeBron, although had they had the award back in the day, I'm sure Lew Alcindor, Wilt and maybe Magic or Shaq would have won the award as well).

The point is, you don't have injuries that actually impact your playing time and get nationally recognized for your domination of the game throughout high school. Sure, you sprain an ankle and miss a practice, but you don't miss like a quarter of your season from some real injury and still make every scouts list as the most dominant player out there statistically.
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Dude, are you a seven footer and weigh 240+ pounds? Is your body stressed to include an 80+ NBA season, including travel and practice, or do you work in an office? You don't even compare so keep it relevant.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Greg-Oden-22036

I was unable to find any SO stats on Oden.

Below is an excellent older read from a Blazer consultant who advised KP to take Durant due to Oden's health issues AND stats.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...-wouldn-t-have-drafted-Greg-Od?urn=nba-268861

"If people that use analytics to predict player performance in the NBA, using performance analytics, meaning what they did in college, and they tell you they had Oden ranked higher than Durant, they are full of crap. There are very few statistical measures that would have rated Oden's system in college better than Durant's. Oden was injured his entire career, that one season at Ohio State. He had to shoot free throws left handed, was not efficient, didn't have a great statistical season.

Our numbers absolutely said they should pick Durant. It wasn't even close

My disappointment was that, in a lot of ways, [the Blazers] made the safe choice versus what I thought was the right choice."

*I thought certain people on here were "math experts"?
College Stats:

Greg Oden Stat Summary:
Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2006-07 32 28.9 15.7 61.6 0.0 62.8 0.7 9.6 3.3 0.6

Kevin Durant Stat Summary:
Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2006-07 35 35.9 25.8 47.3 40.4 81.6 1.3 11.1 1.9 1.9

Durant was the consensus 2007 National College Player of the Year and the 2006–2007 Big 12 Player of the Year

NBA Playoff Stats:

Durant
Year↓ Team↓ GP↓ GS↓ MPG↓ FG%↓ 3P%↓ FT%↓ RPG↓ APG↓ SPG↓ BPG↓ PPG↓
2009–10 Oklahoma City 6 6 38.5 .350 .286 .871 7.7 2.3 .5 1.3 25.0

Oden
08-09 POR 6 0 16.0 0.524 0.000 0.667 1.8 2.5 4.3 0.0 0.3 0.8 1.33 4.50 5.0


BTW: Many sites listed Oden at 280# in college:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/ohio-state/greg-oden
 
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Targus said:
BTW: Many sites listed Oden at 280# in college
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Add to the "fact" that he's "up 60 pounds from College" and apparently he now weighs 340lbs! We haven't had someone that heavy since Shawn Kemp. Clearly his goal is to gain enough mass to affect the tragectory of the ball by gravitational pull. It's just crazy enough to work!
 
Incidentally, sources inform me that Greg now has his own handicapped spot at the Rose Garden. That's for when he doesn't take advantage of his bus pass.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Incidentally, sources inform me that Greg now has his own handicapped spot at the Rose Garden. That's for when he doesn't take advantage of his bus pass.
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I've been told that Greg actually has slow growing progeria. While his actual age is 22, his body age is 118.
 
I guess if you want to dwell on this shit, it's up to you. It doesn't change the current reality.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Add to the "fact" that he's "up 60 pounds from College" and apparently he now weighs 340lbs! We haven't had someone that heavy since Shawn Kemp. Clearly his goal is to gain enough mass to affect the tragectory of the ball by gravitational pull. It's just crazy enough to work!
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Kemp only weighed that much when he was carrying his child support checks.
 
Bynum's polishing his 2nd ring....

Remember...DaRizzle is always correct....like the quoted GM in the OP

:gasoline:
 
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