Oden looks good

[tlongII]

It was a poor decision by the Blazers to get rid of him.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

LOL!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

It was a poor decision by the Blazers to get rid of him.

I was the one who argued for a 5-year, $5 million deal.

 

[Natebishop3]

Seriously? We need another Oden thread?

And you're saying it was a mistake to get rid of him two years ago when he is JUST now playing again?

Also, you're assuming that Greg wanted to come back. I don't think he did. He signed the one-year deal to remove his restricted status and then I think he was going to bounce the fuck out.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't get it.... the guy isn't exactly lighting the world on fire.

He has played in five games since returning.

Vs Washington - 6 points off 2-3 shooting and 2 rebounds in 8 minutes.
Vs Charlotte - 1 point off 1-2 FTA and 0-0 FG with no rebounds in 5 minutes.
Vs Boston - 2 points off 1-3 shooting, 1 rebound and 1 block in 6 minutes.
Vs LAL - 5 points off 2-5 shooting, 5 rebounds, and 1 block in 10 minutes.
Vs San Antonio - 3 points off 1-2 shooting, 1 rebound, 1 block, and 1 steal in 7 minutes (the game that you're watching right now and the reason this thread was started)

Let's go ahead and match this up against another similar player (in my opinion)

(We'll just take the last five games)

Vs Dallas - 8 points off 4-5 shooting, 3 rebounds, and 1 assist in 17 minutes
Vs Houston - 3 points off 1-3 shooting, 2 boards in 14 minutes.
Vs OKC - 0 points off 0-1 shooting, 4 rebounds, and 1 block in 11 minutes.
Vs Denver - 4 points off 1-2 shooting, 5 rebounds, 1 assist and 2 steals in 10 minutes.
Vs Minnesota - 6 points off 3-6 shooting, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block, and 1 steal in 14 minutes.

Care to guess who the second player is?

 

[ehizzy3]

What's his turnovers? Is he still bringing the ball low so it's easy to steal?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Seriously? We need another Oden thread?

Why not? This is a message board about the NBA and the Blazers. That also includes former Blazers.

And you're saying it was a mistake to get rid of him two years ago when he is JUST now playing again?

Yeah, I would. With his talent level, a long term nominal contract was perfect. Teams, like us, have players on a 15-man roster they never use. Oden could have rehabed... and if he ever played again, what a bonus for us.

Also, you're assuming that Greg wanted to come back. I don't think he did. He signed the one-year deal to remove his restricted status and then I think he was going to bounce the fuck out.

Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. But this is a business. It's all about C.T.C.

Besides, tlongII is a beaver fan. He has to do something besides dreaming of hammering sheep all day.

 

[Natebishop3]

What's his turnovers? Is he still bringing the ball low so it's easy to steal?

Not a lot of turnovers yet, but still a ton of fouls.

3 fouls in 10 minutes against the Lakers.

2 fouls in 6 minutes against the Celtics.

3 fouls in 5 minutes against the Bobcats.

 

[TBpup]

I don't get it.... the guy isn't exactly lighting the world on fire.

He has played in five games since returning.

Vs Washington - 6 points off 2-3 shooting and 2 rebounds in 8 minutes.
Vs Charlotte - 1 point off 1-2 FTA and 0-0 FG with no rebounds in 5 minutes.
Vs Boston - 2 points off 1-3 shooting, 1 rebound and 1 block in 6 minutes.
Vs LAL - 5 points off 2-5 shooting, 5 rebounds, and 1 block in 10 minutes.
Vs San Antonio - 3 points off 1-2 shooting, 1 rebound, 1 block, and 1 steal in 7 minutes (the game that you're watching right now and the reason this thread was started)

Let's go ahead and match this up against another similar player (in my opinion)

(We'll just take the last five games)

Vs Dallas - 8 points off 4-5 shooting, 3 rebounds, and 1 assist in 17 minutes
Vs Houston - 3 points off 1-3 shooting, 2 boards in 14 minutes.
Vs OKC - 0 points off 0-1 shooting, 4 rebounds, and 1 block in 11 minutes.
Vs Denver - 4 points off 1-2 shooting, 5 rebounds, 1 assist and 2 steals in 10 minutes.
Vs Minnesota - 6 points off 3-6 shooting, 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block, and 1 steal in 14 minutes.

Care to guess who the second player is?

Sir Robby of T?

 

[tlongII]

We should have signed him to a cheap deal. It was stupid to cut him. It wouldn't have limited our ability to make deals and he can still play.

 

[Natebishop3]

Why not? This is a message board about the NBA and the Blazers. That also includes former Blazers.

Sure, one thread, but three or four separate threads about Oden? The guy hasn't played a game for us since 2009.

Yeah, I would. With his talent level, a long term nominal contract was perfect. Teams, like us, have players on a 15-man roster they never use. Oden could have rehabed... and if he ever played again, what a bonus for us.

We had been waiting on him for years. I think the team wanted to clear the air. He was like a ghost haunting the team of what could have been. Also, it's not like we have roster spaces just sitting around not being used. We're actually pretty deep with young talent right now.

Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. But this is a business. It's all about C.T.C.

Besides, tlongII is a beaver fan. He has to do something besides dreaming of hammering sheep all day.

He needed a change of scenery. Blazer fans never would have accepted him for what he is now..... a shittier version of Thomas Robinson. The guy was supposed to be the most dominant big man in a generation. Do you think people would have been happy with him coming in and picking up 3 fouls in 5 minutes like he's doing with the Heat? The guy is done BP. It's only a matter of time. His knees will give out again and he'll be done.

 

[Natebishop3]

We should have signed him to a cheap deal. It was stupid to cut him. It wouldn't have limited our ability to make deals and he can still play.

He would have been a UFA and he would not have signed here again. He basically said that on his way out of town. That he wanted out of Portland.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

The guy is done BP. It's only a matter of time. His knees will give out again and he'll be done.

He's doing more for the Heat than several players are doing for us.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sir Robby of T?

Here sir, have some rep.

 

[Natebishop3]

He's doing more for the Heat than several players are doing for us.

Who? I would take Robinson and Freeland over Oden. Leonard might be a goof, but at least there's the possibility that he'll have a productive career if he matures and puts it all together. Oden is a 26 year old with the knees of a 40 year old.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Who? I would take Robinson and Freeland over Oden. Leonard might be a goof, but at least there's the possibility that he'll have a productive career if he matures and puts it all together. Oden is a 26 year old with the knees of a 40 year old.

Claver, Watson, Meyers (arguably) to name 3. You're telling me you'd rather have Claver over Oden?

 

[Nhawz]

Who? I would take Robinson and Freeland over Oden. Leonard might be a goof, but at least there's the possibility that he'll have a productive career if he matures and puts it all together. Oden is a 26 year old with the knees of a 40 year old.

40 year old? You are being polite

 

[Natebishop3]

Claver, Watson, Meyers (arguably) to name 3. You're telling me you'd rather have Claver over Oden?

You think that Greg would want to sit at the end of our bench and never play? Why would he have signed here? The Heat, as well as other teams, were offering him a chance to compete on a contender in the rotation. You're comparing him to the guys who are sitting at the end of our bench, and in Claver's case, not even on the bench. Why would Greg have signed up for that? Meyers isn't playing and I think the only reason why he isn't pissed is because he's too immature to care.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

You think that Greg would want to sit at the end of our bench and never play? Why would he have signed here? The Heat, as well as other teams, were offering him a chance to compete on a contender in the rotation. You're comparing him to the guys who are sitting at the end of our bench, and in Claver's case, not even on the bench. Why would Greg have signed up for that? Meyers isn't playing and I think the only reason why he isn't pissed is because he's too immature to care.

Sure he would if he was physically unable to. Otherwise he'd get some minutes and help develop Meyers (if that's possible).

 

[BigGameDamian]

We should have signed him to a cheap deal. It was stupid to cut him. It wouldn't have limited our ability to make deals and he can still play.

Oden didn't want to be here.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Next we will have a thread on how dumb it was to not sign Elliott Williams.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sure he would if he was physically unable to. Otherwise he'd get some minutes and help develop Meyers (if that's possible).

I just don't see him getting any minutes. Right now I'd take TRob over Greg, and Freeland has been extremely stable for us. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes, he plays good defense, and he rebounds the ball. Greg can't stay on the floor right now for Miami. So in that case, Greg is sitting on the bench and probably still drinking. He needed to get out of Portland.

“For starters, Portland isn’t a great city to live in if you’re a young, African American male with a lot of money,” Greg explained with an embarrassed grin.

http://grantland.com/features/a-rar...overall-pick-greg-oden-injury-plagued-career/

"My cousin got wrapped up in the NBA lifestyle and threw parties at my house all the time. So I got wrapped up in it too. When I played well, I’d drink to celebrate. And when I played poorly, I’d drink to forget. That second year in Portland I pretty much became an alcoholic.”

Plus, this quote leads me to believe that he didn't want to just sit on a bench while he was getting healthy.

“I just want to play basketball. I could’ve signed with a team after Portland cut me and just sat on the bench and collected paychecks, but that’s not my style. That just seems really unethical. Besides, money doesn’t matter to me. I’ve got enough money. All I want is to get 100 percent healthy and get back on the court.”

 

[tlongII]

Oden is a 7 footer with skills. You HAVE to keep him IMO.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Oden is a 7 footer with skills. You HAVE to keep him IMO.

This.

 

[Strenuus]

Oden is a 7 footer with skills. You HAVE to keep him IMO.

No, we don't. And thankfully, we didn't. He needed a change of scenery. Would you like to be stuck in a house you were not happy in?

 

[Natebishop3]

Oden is a 7 footer with skills. You HAVE to keep him IMO.

I realize that there are going to be people who cling to him until he finally retires, but you guys seriously need to let it go.

A) He has only played in five games. Way too early to see if he can stay healthy.

B) There was no guarantee that he would have wanted to stay here. I personally think he was gone regardless. I think the Blazers probably felt the same way.

C) He isn't even playing that well. I don't see what the big deal is.

 

[ebott]

Oden is a 7 footer with skills. You HAVE to keep him IMO.

You're opinion is wrong. Oden is a piece of garbage. We should have cut him when he had his first micro fracture surgery.

 

[Natebishop3]

You're opinion is wrong. Oden is a piece of garbage. We should have cut him when he had his first micro fracture surgery.

There were people who clung to the idea of him returning and being dominant for the entire time he was here. There will be people who think it was a bad idea to cut him until the day that he retires. He hasn't done anything impressive since returning. Just a couple dunks, but apparently that's all some people need.

 

[jlprk]

Seriously? We need another Oden thread?

And you're saying it was a mistake to get rid of him two years ago when he is JUST now playing again?

Also, you're assuming that Greg wanted to come back. I don't think he did. He signed the one-year deal to remove his restricted status and then I think he was going to bounce the fuck out.

That's your excuse for losing the future best center in the league? It'll be a low bar as Dwight Howard ages. This is Pritchard's fault. Everyone wanted to draft Oden and Pritchard felt forced into it. So he wouldn't let Oden try to come back. It was always, let it bake a couple of years until we invent a new mystery injury. You suspected nothing? Even after this Pritchard character parachuted out with the mystery falling out with Allen? See the pattern?

 

[Natebishop3]

That's your excuse for losing the future best center in the league? It'll be a low bar as Dwight Howard ages. This is Pritchard's fault. Everyone wanted to draft Oden and Pritchard felt forced into it. So he wouldn't let Oden try to come back. It was always, let it bake a couple of years until we invent a new mystery injury. You suspected nothing? Even after this Pritchard character parachuted out with the mystery falling out with Allen? See the pattern?

HAHAHA okay man. Don't you find it frustrating that nobody takes your posts seriously?