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Sinobas said:
Come on now. Can't we let Oden get through his rookie year before being to critical of him? Kevin Durant made a tremendous improvement from last year to this year.
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I don't recall anybody criticizing Oden last season, and I don't care if this is considered his rookie season because the complaints I am reading don't deal with on-court issues.
 
MAS RipCity said:
lay off Oden people. We rushed Blake and Martell back, and look how that worked.
We should be able to beat Minny with or without Oden. I trust his decision over anyone else's. After all, it is his own damn knee.
I know we are all frustrated at this whole injury bug, but don't you think Greg hurts 10 times more? Quit thinking only of yourselves and being selfish. If people start getting on Greg..man..get a fucking life. He has the desire to win, he just stays level headed.
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I guess that's my problem. I'm not convinced that he does, and if he doesn't, well, let's not go there.
 
PapaG said:
I guess that's my problem. I'm not convinced that he does, and if he doesn't, well, let's not go there.
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Exactly your problem. You don't know squat about him other than what Jason Quick spoon feeds you. Micro fracture surgery used to be a 50/50 recovery rate. Give the kid a damn break and let him gain some skills over the summer so he can develop a game he can be confident in. Greg is rookie through and through...
 
HB nailed it on the head. NONE of us know Greg and what goes on inside his head. It is judgmental and naive to think we can tell how he feels or what he is thinking based on seeing him on TV. From the interviews I have seen, Greg only wants to play. People bitching about him will only make it worse. Please do not make him out to be another scapegoat.
 
HailBlazers said:
Exactly your problem. You don't know squat about him other than what Jason Quick spoon feeds you. Micro fracture surgery used to be a 50/50 recovery rate. Give the kid a damn break and let him gain some skills over the summer so he can develop a game he can be confident in. Greg is rookie through and through...
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I'm wondering what I've said that would elicit such a response. Are you saying that Quick lied about Oden saying he was cleared to play? As for the micro-fracture surgery, Oden is long beyond the recovery period for that surgery, and this isn't even on the same knee.

Oden is cleared to play, and he isn't playing. If a person can't bring that up without being attacked for not "know(ing) squat", then what is the point of this board? I guess I could say that you don't know squat either, and you don't even have Quick's quote of Oden to base your claim on.
 
PapaG said:
I'm wondering what I've said that would elicit such a response. Are you saying that Quick lied about Oden saying he was cleared to play? As for the micro-fracture surgery, Oden is long beyond the recovery period for that surgery, and this isn't even on the same knee.

Oden is cleared to play, and he isn't playing. If a person can't bring that up without being attacked for not "know(ing) squat", then what is the point of this board? I guess I could say that you don't know squat either, and you don't even have Quick's quote of Oden to base your claim on.
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I seem to recall Blake and Webster being cleared to play as well, just because you are cleared, doesn't mean you should.
 
MAS RipCity said:
HB nailed it on the head. NONE of us know Greg and what goes on inside his head. It is judgmental and naive to think we can tell how he feels or what he is thinking based on seeing him on TV. From the interviews I have seen, Greg only wants to play. People bitching about him will only make it worse. Please do not make him out to be another scapegoat.
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Well that's where you're wrong. Just lack week when we went out banging hookers and doing lines of coke off of their asses, he told me that what he really wanted out of life was to become a singer and dancer in an off-broadway play ... or maybe become a dentist as a fallback.

Shows how much you know buddy! :wink:
 
MAS RipCity said:
HB nailed it on the head. NONE of us know Greg and what goes on inside his head. It is judgmental and naive to think we can tell how he feels or what he is thinking based on seeing him on TV. From the interviews I have seen, Greg only wants to play. People bitching about him will only make it worse. Please do not make him out to be another scapegoat.
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Yes, I've already said that is a bit of a concern to me.
 
MAS RipCity said:
I seem to recall Blake and Webster being cleared to play as well, just because you are cleared, doesn't mean you should.
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Oden was cleared once before to play this season after his ankle and did so without further injury. What's your point other than to bash on the Blazer training staff.
 
Considering that Greg played a whole season at Ohio State with a broken wrist, I consider most of this moot.

I still believe that the problems are within the Blazer locker room, and not what folks are discussing here. The Blazer media may try to seem like nothing is wrong, but something is wrong. I have a feeling that Greg not playing, has more to do with that, then any injury.
 
hasoos said:
Considering that Greg played a whole season at Ohio State with a broken wrist, I consider most of this moot.

I still believe that the problems are within the Blazer locker room, and not what folks are discussing here. The Blazer media may try to seem like nothing is wrong, but something is wrong. I have a feeling that Greg not playing, has more to do with that, then any injury.
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Would you elaborate on your speculation? This seems rather cryptic.
 
PapaG said:
Would you elaborate on your speculation? This seems rather cryptic.
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I have watched games all year long with situations where Greg gets open, and guy look right at him and never throw him the ball, and reverse it to the other side of the floor. They look straight at him, and many of these times, he has been alone, wide open for an easy score. There is no reason for that to happen, unless players are freezing him out of the offense. It was similar to stuff I saw going on between Eric Gordon and Baron Davis with the Clippers in several games I have seen them play lately. Something is not right. Another sign for me that something was not right is the fact that when Greg went out with the injury, the Blazers immediately started feeding the post much more often. Pryzbilla has horrible hands, and is a horrible finisher in the scheme of talent. Yet the Blazers were throwing it to him much more often then Greg has been fed all year long. I am not the only one who noticed this, many people I talk Blazers with noticed it immediately as well.
 
If Oden had gone with the 25th pick no one would care if he sat out till next season. BUT...He went #1 and this attention is to be expected positive or negative.

A once in decade center is a double edge sword. So those who are asking these questions have every right! If Shaq was a dud in his second season, he'd be getting the same attention, as would Hakeem, Patrick, Zo, Dwight and on and on....

What I question isn't to do with his physical injuries, but his lack of mental emotion that is void every game he's played except for maybe 3.

At some point either put on the cape or don't be offended if you're only refered to as Mr. Kent!
 
I don't expect Greg to win us a championship this year, far from it! At the same time I want him to show emotion, and realize there is a responsibility with being the #1 pick. There is a happy medium!
 
The Professional Fan said:
Prove it.
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I will tell you what would happen with Durant. Last year he would have played about 10 minutes a game, maybe 15 on the outside. He had Martell, Outlaw and Jones ahead of him on the rotation. Nate worships his rotation, so no matter how well he played he wouldn't get in the games more then that.

This year, he probably would start. However, he would be at best the third option on the floor, instead of the first option like he is OKC. I would figure he would average about half of what he does now. This isn't a knock against Durant, just more how Nate has worked in the past.

And before you bring up Roy remember that Nate knew him for a long time. Also, there wasn't anyone else on the team to take his place in the rotation so he kind of started by default.

Anyway, Portland would be about 10 more points from the SF position, but worse defense. Maybe 2 more wins? Not much more then that.

One thing I have thought about a bit. Durant SUCKED under PJoke. He only really started to light it up after they kicked that fool to the curb. Perhaps Oden is in the same situation here?
 
Couldn't agree more. The fact we can't get an intro pass to Greg kills me! The fact our guards don't look for him kills me the most!
 
You "fans" are fucking crazy. Jesus, it's embarrassing to be a Blazer fan sometimes with you whining lot. The body is a mystery. Stop pretending that if it's injury X it's recovery time Y.
 
maxiep said:
You "fans" are fucking crazy. Jesus, it's embarrassing to be a Blazer fan sometimes with you whining lot. The body is a mystery. Stop pretending that if it's injury X it's recovery time Y.
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So is the mind/psyche, and to an even greater and more unknown extent.
 
hasoos said:
I have watched games all year long with situations where Greg gets open, and guy look right at him and never throw him the ball, and reverse it to the other side of the floor. They look straight at him, and many of these times, he has been alone, wide open for an easy score. There is no reason for that to happen, unless players are freezing him out of the offense. It was similar to stuff I saw going on between Eric Gordon and Baron Davis with the Clippers in several games I have seen them play lately. Something is not right. Another sign for me that something was not right is the fact that when Greg went out with the injury, the Blazers immediately started feeding the post much more often. Pryzbilla has horrible hands, and is a horrible finisher in the scheme of talent. Yet the Blazers were throwing it to him much more often then Greg has been fed all year long. I am not the only one who noticed this, many people I talk Blazers with noticed it immediately as well.
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So you're saying a guy who misses dunks, get offensive fouls when getting position, and admits he isn't ready to be a primary member of the "Big 3" is sitting out in some sort of protest? Really??? You also feel his teammates are freezing him out? Wow.
 
PapaG said:
That's completely unnecessary. I've said nothing out of line in this thread.
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Lighten up, Francis. It was a joke. The :cheers: and the :ghoti: smilies are a sign that the post was meant in good fun.
 
Trade Oden to LA for Luke Walton. He can back up Bynum. Walton can be Portland's SF of the future ahead of Outlaw/Batum, be Pippen to Roy's Jordan.

Yes.
 
EHL said:
Trade Oden to LA for Luke Walton. He can back up Bynum. Walton can be Portland's SF of the future ahead of Outlaw/Batum, be Pippen to Roy's Jordan.

Yes.
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Why would LA give up Walton? Oden's going to be cut soon, and I doubt there will be much demand for his services. In fact, if LA will take Oden and his #1 pick salary off Portland's hands, Portland will take two bad contracts off LA's hands, Bynum and Kobe, in exchange for expiring deals.

And you get to keep Walton. Can't say fairer'n'that.
 
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