Oden Update - Tuesday, March 3rd

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good thing the swelling went down, dude needs to take calcium pills all summer long to build up those bones..I think he grew faster than his bones could, so hopefully a he ages his body becomes stronger
 
They need to scope that leg and get that chip outta there!
 
tlongII said:
They need to scope that leg and get that chip outta there!
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Why? Assuming it's not rubbing against articular cartilage then scar tissue will form around the fragment and hold it in suspension, my guess is he won't get scoped until the off-season -- if ever.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Why? Assuming it's not rubbing against articular cartilage then scar tissue will form around the fragment and hold it in suspension, my guess is he won't get scoped until the off-season -- if ever.
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It's obviously causing him pain. Remove the fragment, remove the pain. Simple as that.
 
When he's back, he's back. I've wasted too much time wondering about the guy while he's off of the court.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Wouldn't that depend on the size of the chip? :dunno:
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size, shape, location ... the team has been very tight lipped with the details of the injury so it's pretty much impossible for anyone but the radiologist who viewed his x-rays and MRI to say what the best course of action should be (surgery or time).

My guess is that if the chip was in a place that it needed to be extracted the doctors would have already done this during the all-star break and then given him the two to four weeks needed to recover from what most would assume to be a relatively minor surgery.

I guess if you're into conspiracy theories, you might wonder if the team didn't already do a scope and clean out the fragment and then just declined to break the news, thinking that the word "surgery" would cause so much of a tizzy amongst fans and media that the PR hit wouldn't be worth enduring -- I DO NOT subscribe to this theory myself :wink:
 
I'm not a radiologist, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn last night. That chip needs to come out. The club has already stated that it will be removed after the season I believe. IMO, they should have got that thing outta there as soon as his swelling went down.
 
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Are Oden's bones just like Elijah Prices bones in Unbreakable? I'm starting to think he might just have the same condition!!
 
About Greg Oden and his injury . . .

<small>March 4th, 2009 by Dwight Jaynes | Filed under NBA, Trail Blazers.
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I’ll start by saying one thing right away — after all these years of covering athletics, I never question a player’s injuries. If he says he’s hurting, I always believe that he is. I’ve seen too many times when people thought a player was slow recovering, or even faking something — to find out later there was a serious injury that went undiscovered or misdiagnosed.

It’s been many, many years since the days of the open warfare between Bill Walton and the Trail Blazers’ medical staff. But I find it ironic that these days whenever there seems to be mystery about an injury nobody questions the doctors but they feel free to doubt the player.

There are some factors at work here with Oden’s knee injury that some people may not have considered. The foremost is that the Blazers’ medical staff is having a bit of an unlucky season.

Martell Webster was originally thought to be out for six to eight weeks. Then he was actually thought to be healed and was given the green light to return to action. He played five minutes and now is out for the remainder of the regular season.

Steve Blake had a shoulder injury, was given permission to return to action but suffered a setback and then had to miss more games.

There is no possible way of knowing whether these players were too eager to return, were being pressured to return quicker than they should have, or if there was some mistake in evaluating the extent of their healing. On the whole, everyone must understand that this isn’t always an exact science and all people heal differently. Treating athletes who perform at a high physical level isn’t easy.

But I would also understand that there may be an extra degree of caution with Oden after what’s gone on previously. I would figure that care will be taken so that when Oden returns to action, he does so without any fear of an immediate re-injury.

If you’re a fan and you’re frustrated, imagine how the doctors and the players feel. There are no easy answers. And patience is the only remedy.
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From: Ryan White's Report

Outside the practice facility, Oden is the story. If you leave that door open long enough, it's bound to blow in. How's Greg? How long is Greg out? Why is Greg taking so long? Should Greg have been handled differently?

There's a beautiful conspiracy theory suggesting Oden won't play again this year, but the Blazers are waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline to make the announcement. There seems almost to be a race to be the one who regretfully calls the guy a bust. No offense, but, well, you know.
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Another way of saying what Ryan said was "we need to sell papers/ad space".
 
There's a beautiful conspiracy theory suggesting Oden won't play again this year, but the Blazers are waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline to make the announcement.
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Holy cow, if this is true I would be very disappointed. And not just because Oden would be out for the year.
 
Anyone listen to the Game this morning?

What I caught was Hollinger had an interview with Oden and GO said he is definitely getting surgery this summer and is contemplating getting surgery during the season. If he has surgery during the season, they were speculating he would be out for the regular season.

Anyone else hear that and did I understand it right, now GO is saying he may get surgery soon?
 
I guess no one else heard this. I'm surprised, they were making a huge deal out of it this morning. I only heard about 10-15 minutes of it and was hoping to get more details. Again, it is all the morning guys were talking about when I was listening . . . or has this issue (GO saying he might get surgery soon) already been discussed.
 
it's_GO_time said:
I guess no one else heard this. I'm surprised, they were making a huge deal out of it this morning. I only heard about 10-15 minutes of it and was hoping to get more details. Again, it is all the morning guys were talking about when I was listening . . . or has this issue (GO saying he might get surgery soon) already been discussed.
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It hasn't been discussed. Half of us are wary of a day's worth of being bashed for daring to question St. Gregory and his frail body, and the other half hasn't quite figured out the talking points to uphold the "he's going to be a dominant NBA force who should have the offense run through him right now" line of folly.

That said, he may as well get the surgery now and come back for a playoff push off of the bench. I'm guessing that it is Oden who is delaying it if this is true, and I give him a lot of credit for that at this point.
 
PapaG said:
It hasn't been discussed. Half of us are wary of a day's worth of being bashed for daring to question St. Gregory and his frail body, and the other half hasn't quite figured out the talking points to uphold the "he's going to be a dominant NBA force who should have the offense run through him right now" line of folly.

That said, he may as well get the surgery now and come back for a playoff push off of the bench. I'm guessing that it is Oden who is delaying it if this is true, and I give him a lot of credit for that at this point.
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Thanks for the response. I felt like I was in the twilight zone becuase it is all the radio guys were talking about (Oden's interview with Hollinger) and no one is discussing it here.

I think there is probabaly GO burn out going on . . .

I'll try to find the interview.
 
I'll be pissed if he has surgery at some point in the near future when he could have already had it done. Doesn't anyone pay attention to my medical advice?!
 
PapaG said:
It hasn't been discussed. Half of us are wary of a day's worth of being bashed for daring to question St. Gregory and his frail body, and the other half hasn't quite figured out the talking points to uphold the "he's going to be a dominant NBA force who should have the offense run through him right now" line of folly.

That said, he may as well get the surgery now and come back for a playoff push off of the bench. I'm guessing that it is Oden who is delaying it if this is true, and I give him a lot of credit for that at this point.
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there are several lines of folly at work in your post though none involve defending oden. it's hilarious that you try to play as a victim when you're so quick to jump on oden about anything and then you play doctor as well.
 
rocketeer said:
there are several lines of folly at work in your post though none involve defending oden. it's hilarious that you try to play as a victim when you're so quick to jump on oden about anything and then you play doctor as well.
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I said that I give Oden a lot of credit for seemingly putting off surgery in order to try and contribute this season. Are you going to post to the topic at hand, or are you just going to post your incomplete analysis of what I actually said? Also, saying I jump on Oden about anything is completely false.
 
So did anyone else listen to the game this morning? I did a quick search (not my specialty) and could not find the interview the morning guys were ranting about. maybe I'm completely wrong here and don't mean to give out bad info. I do know the morning guys were ranting on the comments by GO that he may choose to do surgery during the regular season and I think they were quoting Hollinger as the source.

But I can't find anything . . . so maybe I heard them worng. :dunno:
 
it's_GO_time said:
So did anyone else listen to the game this morning? I did a quick search (not my specialty) and could not find the interview the morning guys were ranting about. maybe I'm completely wrong here and don't mean to give out bad info. I do know the morning guys were ranting on the comments by GO that he may choose to do surgery during the regular season and I think they were quoting Hollinger as the source.

But I can't find anything . . . so maybe I heard them worng. :dunno:
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The only thing I've heard from anyone associated with ESPN about Oden and surgery was Ric Bucher saying that Greg wants to play really bad but will need surgery but is hoping to put it off until summer.
 
PapaG said:
I said that I give Oden a lot of credit for seemingly putting off surgery in order to try and contribute this season. Are you going to post to the topic at hand, or are you just going to post your incomplete analysis of what I actually said? Also, saying I jump on Oden about anything is completely false.
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from what i recall you have been very quick to jump on oden(as have many others).

but i don't have any update on oden. which is probably why i am reading the thread to begin with.
 
The problem is, you have 2 groups of people who don't want the story to be true.

One group wants to believe that Oden is not really hurt and is just dogging it.

The other group just doesn't want to believe that there is significant problem. (or that the team would not be honest about it)
 
tlongII said:
I'm not a radiologist, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn last night. That chip needs to come out. The club has already stated that it will be removed after the season I believe. IMO, they should have got that thing outta there as soon as his swelling went down.
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Actually, no.

Dr. Nathaniel McMillan has already stated his non-licensed medical opinion that "surgery is not an option". :tsktsk:
 
http://audio.1080thefan.com/m/audio/21945841/channing-frye-03-03-09.htm

You all need to listen to Channing's interview on from "The Fan" yesterday. It's not a definitive answer to what is going on with Greg, but it's a great insight into the mindset that his teammates might be having regarding his injury and how he's handling it -- let me put it this way, it was a good enough explanation that it shut up "Big Suck" and Isaac Ropp.
 
Nikolokolus said:
http://audio.1080thefan.com/m/audio/21945841/channing-frye-03-03-09.htm

You all need to listen to Channing's interview on from "The Fan" yesterday. It's not a definitive answer to what is going on with Greg, but it's a great insight into the mindset that his teammates might be having regarding his injury and how he's handling it -- let me put it this way, it was a good enough explanation that it shut up "Big Suck" and Isaac Ropp.
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I really, really don't want to give their site hits nor listen to them - would you mind giving like a two sentence summary of what Channing said in regards to this mindset of the teammates if it isn't too much trouble, please?
 
Pretty good stuff. I hope he can find himself a contract after this year. Seems like a good guy.
 
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